2020 Offseason: Trade Ideas / Trade Talk

Tarheel · Post #421 » by **Tarheel** » Fri Jan 29, 2021 3:59 pm

The Effect wrote:i see no downside to trading ross

Sure our bench scoring would suffer

No downside at all, huh?

The Effect · Post #422 » by **The Effect** » Fri Jan 29, 2021 4:31 pm

Tarheel wrote:
The Effect wrote:i see no downside to trading ross

Sure our bench scoring would suffer

No downside at all, huh?

None

Thanks for reading the rest of the post that explained why that isn't a down side, great job

Skybox · Post #423 » by **Skybox** » Fri Jan 29, 2021 5:26 pm

Good news everybody. I have solved all of our problems, WeHam take all of the credit, I don't care...

Trade 1: ORL sends Vuc, Fournier, Ennis to DAL
DAL sends KP, Tyrell Terry, James Johnson to ORL

Trade 2: ORL sends AG to MIN, MCW and Gary Clark to NOLA
MIN sends McDaniels to ORL, Beasley to NOLA
NOLA sends NAW and Bledsoe to ORL

I think each team gets some of what they're wanting...defense, shooting, positional depth, financial flexibility, in each direction.

Maybe we can unload Aminu by adding a second to a team needing solid vet PF, we'll be deep at PF. There would be room for Cole to get time at SG as well. Bamba buys himself more time to develop and take pressure off of KP. Imagine an occasional frontline of Isaac, KP, Bamba?

Next year ORL...Fultz/Bledsoe/Anthony
NAW, Terry
'21 high lottery pick, TRoss, Bacon
Isaac, McDaniels, Okeke
Porzingis, Bamba, Birch

cedric76 · Post #424 » by **cedric76** » Fri Jan 29, 2021 10:00 pm

Skybox wrote:Good news everybody. I have solved all of our problems, WeHam take all of the credit, I don't care...

Trade 1: ORL sends Vuc, Fournier, Ennis to DAL
DAL sends KP, Tyrell Terry, James Johnson to ORL

Trade 2: ORL sends AG to MIN, MCW and Gary Clark to NOLA
MIN sends McDaniels to ORL, Beasley to NOLA
NOLA sends NAW and Bledsoe to ORL

I think each team gets some of what they're wanting...defense, shooting, positional depth, financial flexibility, in each direction.

Maybe we can unload Aminu by adding a second to a team needing solid vet PF, we'll be deep at PF. There would be room for Cole to get time at SG as well. Bamba buys himself more time to develop and take pressure off of KP. Imagine an occasional frontline of Isaac, KP, Bamba?

Next year ORL...Fultz/Bledsoe/Anthony
NAW, Terry
'21 high lottery pick, TRoss, Bacon
Isaac, McDaniels, Okeke
Porzingis, Bamba, Birch

Dallas would jump on that trade

No thx

Post #425 » by **Bensational** » Fri Jan 29, 2021 10:06 pm

Skybox wrote:Good news everybody. I have solved all of our problems, WeHam take all of the credit, I don't care...

Trade 1: ORL sends Vuc, Fournier, Ennis to DAL
DAL sends KP, Tyrell Terry, James Johnson to ORL

Trade 2: ORL sends AG to MIN, MCW and Gary Clark to NOLA
MIN sends McDaniels to ORL, Beasley to NOLA
NOLA sends NAW and Bledsoe to ORL

I think each team gets some of what they're wanting...defense, shooting, positional depth, financial flexibility, in each direction.

Maybe we can unload Aminu by adding a second to a team needing solid vet PF, we'll be deep at PF. There would be room for Cole to get time at SG as well. Bamba buys himself more time to develop and take pressure off of KP. Imagine an occasional frontline of Isaac, KP, Bamba?

Next year ORL...Fultz/Bledsoe/Anthony
NAW, Terry
'21 high lottery pick, TRoss, Bacon
Isaac, McDaniels, Okeke
Porzingis, Bamba, Birch

I like what you’ve done here. I don’t think NOLA give up NAW, unfortunately. I think he’s part of their future plans.

With the future lineup I’d be fielding Bamba/KP/Isaac as the front court. Good luck trying to score against that if they can all stay healthy. They’d just need a superstar in the backcourt to pull it all together.

Skybox · Post #426 » by **Skybox** » Fri Jan 29, 2021 10:38 pm

Bensational wrote:
Skybox wrote:Good news everybody. I have solved all of our problems, WeHam take all of the credit, I don't care...

Trade 1: ORL sends Vuc, Fournier, Ennis to DAL
DAL sends KP, Tyrell Terry, James Johnson to ORL

Trade 2: ORL sends AG to MIN, MCW and Gary Clark to NOLA
MIN sends McDaniels to ORL, Beasley to NOLA
NOLA sends NAW and Bledsoe to ORL

I think each team gets some of what they're wanting...defense, shooting, positional depth, financial flexibility, in each direction.

Maybe we can unload Aminu by adding a second to a team needing solid vet PF, we'll be deep at PF. There would be room for Cole to get time at SG as well. Bamba buys himself more time to develop and take pressure off of KP. Imagine an occasional frontline of Isaac, KP, Bamba?

Next year ORL...Fultz/Bledsoe/Anthony
NAW, Terry
'21 high lottery pick, TRoss, Bacon
Isaac, McDaniels, Okeke
Porzingis, Bamba, Birch

I like what you’ve done here. I don’t think NOLA give up NAW, unfortunately. I think he’s part of their future plans.

With the future lineup I’d be fielding Bamba/KP/Isaac as the front court. Good luck trying to score against that if they can all stay healthy. They’d just need a superstar in the backcourt to pull it all together.

NAW is the big mystery piece...it's not like he was a high pick and it's not like he's even really done much yet. For me, I guess it's the SGA similarity (assumption) that makes me think he's something. Doesn't start. Doesn't play a lot of minutes. Numbers are pretty pedestrian but...something. I like Hart too but NAW seems like the bigger prospect.

MasterGMer · Post #427 » by **MasterGMer** » Fri Jan 29, 2021 11:23 pm

I really hope this Front Office of Orlando Magic is as aggressive as 76ers Darl Morey, making trades and FA signings.

I really wish we can pave ourselves for the future. So I am thinking all kinds of trades.

Right now? We are just not good enough and I really do not want to see this season as another disappointment just like last year

Post #428 » by **Bensational** » Sat Jan 30, 2021 12:34 am

Skybox wrote:
Bensational wrote:
Skybox wrote:Good news everybody. I have solved all of our problems, WeHam take all of the credit, I don't care...

Trade 1: ORL sends Vuc, Fournier, Ennis to DAL
DAL sends KP, Tyrell Terry, James Johnson to ORL

Trade 2: ORL sends AG to MIN, MCW and Gary Clark to NOLA
MIN sends McDaniels to ORL, Beasley to NOLA
NOLA sends NAW and Bledsoe to ORL

I think each team gets some of what they're wanting...defense, shooting, positional depth, financial flexibility, in each direction.

Maybe we can unload Aminu by adding a second to a team needing solid vet PF, we'll be deep at PF. There would be room for Cole to get time at SG as well. Bamba buys himself more time to develop and take pressure off of KP. Imagine an occasional frontline of Isaac, KP, Bamba?

Next year ORL...Fultz/Bledsoe/Anthony
NAW, Terry
'21 high lottery pick, TRoss, Bacon
Isaac, McDaniels, Okeke
Porzingis, Bamba, Birch

I like what you’ve done here. I don’t think NOLA give up NAW, unfortunately. I think he’s part of their future plans.

With the future lineup I’d be fielding Bamba/KP/Isaac as the front court. Good luck trying to score against that if they can all stay healthy. They’d just need a superstar in the backcourt to pull it all together.

NAW is the big mystery piece...it's not like he was a high pick and it's not like he's even really done much yet. For me, I guess it's the SGA similarity (assumption) that makes me think he's something. Doesn't start. Doesn't play a lot of minutes. Numbers are pretty pedestrian but...something. I like Hart too but NAW seems like the bigger prospect.

I don’t think NAW is a star in the making or anything, but I can see him becoming a player who has an impact like Brogdon. From what I’ve heard he’s a real pro with a great attitude, so I think his lack of involvement presently is more NOLA showcasing Lonzo, Bledsoe and JJ than not valuing NAW. They’re making room for him for a reason.

When given a larger role and consistent minutes I think we’ll see NAW really shoot up.

Post #429 » by **Bensational** » Sat Jan 30, 2021 5:43 am

Bamba/Birch
KP/Aminu
(Isaac)/Chuma
Terry
Cole/(Fultz)

AG + Ross + Fultz/Cole/Terry for the best backcourt piece we can get. Simons + Trent?

Ride it into the lottery this season. Find our franchise piece.

cedric76 · Post #430 » by **cedric76** » Sat Jan 30, 2021 8:39 am

Vuc is better and more durable than KP

cedric76 · Post #431 » by **cedric76** » Sat Jan 30, 2021 8:46 am

I know Chicago is loaded with forwards but they can't pass on adding assets

AG +aminu for otto

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=y3q8ukol

j-ragg · Post #432 » by **j-ragg** » Sat Jan 30, 2021 4:48 pm

MasterGMer wrote:I really hope this Front Office of Orlando Magic is as aggressive as 76ers Darl Morey, making trades and FA signings.

We have 4 years of evidence to suggest they’re the polar opposite.

cedric76 · Post #433 » by **cedric76** » Sun Jan 31, 2021 7:18 am

Boston lost again

Time to get some front court help

AG for Tpe
Aminu for Nesmith, Langford and williams

With this trade chuma and Williams would get most pt at pf till the end of the year which would help them showcase what they can do

We can now trade ross for expiring + assets
See what the best offer we can get for Evan

2021 2022 lineup

Fultz, Cole, mcw
Evan, Langford, mcw
FA(otto porter), chuma, nesmith
Isaac, Williams, chuma
Vuc, mo, birch

+our pick +assets

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=y65bwse4

We clear money for this summer and get young talent for our depth

zaymon · Post #434 » by **zaymon** » Sun Jan 31, 2021 3:05 pm

I dont think there is any interesting deal for us with Boston. Only 2 players we would want are unavailable and rest is at replacement level.

Max Power · Post #435 » by **Max Power** » Sun Jan 31, 2021 3:05 pm

Isn’t the point to get away from Evan Fournier? I think several contending teams would probably love him and AG as depth pieces for championship runs. I’m looking at you Boston Celtics, LA Clippers and Denver Nuggets.

cedric76 · Post #436 » by **cedric76** » Sun Jan 31, 2021 10:33 pm

zaymon wrote:I dont think there is any interesting deal for us with Boston. Only 2 players we would want are unavailable and rest is at replacement level.

3 potential backups : Nesmith, Langford and Williams
2021 FRP?

not too sexy but I think we ll be better once AG is gone

jonbob17 · Post #437 » by **jonbob17** » Sun Jan 31, 2021 11:56 pm

Skybox wrote:
NAW is the big mystery piece...it's not like he was a high pick and it's not like he's even really done much yet. For me, I guess it's the SGA similarity (assumption) that makes me think he's something. Doesn't start. Doesn't play a lot of minutes. Numbers are pretty pedestrian but...something. I like Hart too but NAW seems like the bigger prospect.

Rumor is NO is high on NAW. Part of the reason they are listening to offers on their guards to get him more playing time.

I don't think this trade is too far off AG = Mcdaniel + Beasley = NAW + Bledsoe. Actually that is too much for AG. I am not even sure Beasley + AG straight up gets it done, and that is knowing they need a defensive minded 4 ....Maybe, but Beasley is really showing some scoring abilities this year. If we could move AG to Minny I think we should just cut NO out and keep Beasley.

Ironically, former Magic legend Jarred Vanderbilt, is starting look ok at the 4 for Minny.

Skybox · Post #438 » by **Skybox** » Mon Feb 1, 2021 12:30 am

cedric76 wrote:
zaymon wrote:I dont think there is any interesting deal for us with Boston. Only 2 players we would want are unavailable and rest is at replacement level.

3 potential backups : Nesmith, Langford and Williams
2021 FRP?

not too sexy but I think we ll be better once AG is gone

I’d take two low-priced prospects all day...especially one who shot lights out from 3 with an NBA body. AG is better but less needed here, with Isaac.

wolves_89 · Post #439 » by **wolves_89** » Mon Feb 1, 2021 4:11 am

jonbob17 wrote:
Skybox wrote:
NAW is the big mystery piece...it's not like he was a high pick and it's not like he's even really done much yet. For me, I guess it's the SGA similarity (assumption) that makes me think he's something. Doesn't start. Doesn't play a lot of minutes. Numbers are pretty pedestrian but...something. I like Hart too but NAW seems like the bigger prospect.

Rumor is NO is high on NAW. Part of the reason they are listening to offers on their guards to get him more playing time.

I don't think this trade is too far off AG = Mcdaniel + Beasley = NAW + Bledsoe. Actually that is too much for AG. I am not even sure Beasley + AG straight up gets it done, and that is knowing they need a defensive minded 4 ....Maybe, but Beasley is really showing some scoring abilities this year. If we could move AG to Minny I think we should just cut NO out and keep Beasley.

Ironically, former Magic legend Jarred Vanderbilt, is starting look ok at the 4 for Minny.

I don't see any chance the Wolves would trade Beasley for Gordon straight up let alone add McDaniels (who has been really good on defense and looks like can shoot the 3). Any Gordon to the Wolves deal is extremely unlikely to include Beasley, McDaniels, or Vanderbilt.

basketballRob · Post #440 » by **basketballRob** » Mon Feb 1, 2021 5:11 am

wolves_89 wrote:
jonbob17 wrote:
Skybox wrote:
NAW is the big mystery piece...it's not like he was a high pick and it's not like he's even really done much yet. For me, I guess it's the SGA similarity (assumption) that makes me think he's something. Doesn't start. Doesn't play a lot of minutes. Numbers are pretty pedestrian but...something. I like Hart too but NAW seems like the bigger prospect.

Rumor is NO is high on NAW. Part of the reason they are listening to offers on their guards to get him more playing time.

I don't think this trade is too far off AG = Mcdaniel + Beasley = NAW + Bledsoe. Actually that is too much for AG. I am not even sure Beasley + AG straight up gets it done, and that is knowing they need a defensive minded 4 ....Maybe, but Beasley is really showing some scoring abilities this year. If we could move AG to Minny I think we should just cut NO out and keep Beasley.

Ironically, former Magic legend Jarred Vanderbilt, is starting look ok at the 4 for Minny.

I don't see any chance the Wolves would trade Beasley for Gordon straight up let alone add McDaniels (who has been really good on defense and looks like can shoot the 3). Any Gordon to the Wolves deal is extremely unlikely to include Beasley, McDaniels, or Vanderbilt.

I doubt the Magic make a move until the offseason.

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