2023-2024 Regular Season Game 44: Cleveland Cavaliers (25-15) at Orlando Magic (23-20) - 7pm

[FFBlitzace]

I mean, this game sucks and we have our obvious problems, but let's not overreact. We don't need to trade everybody. Just Fultz, WCJ, Cole, Okeke, Isaac, and Gary Harris ("Hey, what are you looking at me for?" - Gary Harris, probably). Am I missing anybody?

[SOUL]

Not a troll brother, call it as I see it, can assure you I’m as dedicated a fan as anyone here.. Just tired of this franchise always being about character and rainbows/butterflies—get a Draymond or Pat Beverly that will at least hold their teammates accountable… The constant inconsistency of this team tells me that the behind the door accountability isn’t there either….

I don't mean in the sense of not rooting for the team, I'm saying there is confirmation bias when you post.. meaning when the team is struggling or Paolo plays bad, I'm more likely to see you. We have a lot of these posters lol. Games like this aren't about player accountability, nobody wants to lose... it's literally not having the shot making to compete. You can't will the other team to miss shots. You can make it hard on them.. I think the Cavs shot making in the 1st were hard shots until they hit a bunch of those and the floodgates opened and then we gave open shots.

In fact, I'd say one of our strengths is that the team competes even when they're down. Early on in the season, I think for 20+ games, every game we won or lost we were winning at halftime. That's hard to do.

This Cavs team has blown out a bunch of teams lately, this is more of the same from them.

[eyriq]

Tbh one shooter isn't going to fix this.

Harris for Buddy, Fultz for Tyus, JI for Huerter

[Last Guardian]

Just to show I'm not completely biased for Mosely...having Okeke guard Mitchell is a fairly bad decision. I'd trust him to guard a 3 maybe a smaller 4...but not a 6'1 guard

[Bensational]

So I said:

“I blame Mosley for setting a game plan tonight that has Wendell as the 2nd highest shot taker when he’s playing against one of the league’s best defenders.”

And you refuted that by saying Wendell doesn’t get plays called for him. I’ve shown that he does. Redefine things all you like, but he gets plays called for him and you didn’t seem to know that.

Now you want to say it’s all read and react like it’s a YMCA pick up game. It’s not, it’s professionals who know playbooks and the defensive reactions they’re meant to look for, and spots they need to get to. That’s a game plan, and within that gameplan Mosley will highlight who and where he thinks the team will find easy buckets and where efforts should be focused.

If you think Mosley has no influence on who’s getting shots and where then I don’t know what to say. You can argue about whether it’s a specific play or the result of a looser gameplan, makes no difference to me. Having Wendell featured is the wrong move tonight.

What you say is a "play" being called for Carter is simply not. That's the fundamental disconnect here.

What did I call “a play”? I said “gameplan”. That’s your disconnect, not mine.

[eyriq]

I mean, this game sucks and we have our obvious problems, but let's not overreact. We don't need to trade everybody. Just Fultz, WCJ, Cole, Okeke, Isaac, and Gary Harris ("Hey, what are you looking at me for?" - Gary Harris, probably). Am I missing anybody?

That about covers it

[SOUL]

Queen vs Mitchell!!

[Husky1]

The sad thing is, Isaac on Merrill may have made this at least a attainable comeback

Cmon now, Isaac played a whopping 12 mins last night. We don’t pay him 17 million a year to play a back to back after that workload. We’re a smart franchise.

[thelead]

not surprising but they pulled Suggs out while Mitchell was still on the court... and he proceeded to cook Okeke.

[VFX]

Goga belongs on a milk carton. Dude is sweeping the locker room and you’d never know he started for a 9 game win streak. Seriously tf

[Black and Blue]

You reckon this might prod Weltman into action regarding getting shooting?? If it doesn’t I want a new FO

I'm beginning to think that Paolo or Franz will have to speak up about needing help before this front office decide to do anything.

As annoying as these bad games and losing streaks are, at least they make it impossible to justify doing nothing at the deadline.

The expirings already made it obvious something had to happen, but this team has lost any good mojo they had to start the season.

[Last Guardian]

Just to show I'm not completely biased for Mosely...having Okeke guard Mitchell is a fairly bad decision. I'd trust him to guard a 3 maybe a smaller 4...but not a 6'1 guard

Unless it was a switch and I didn't notice. But it seemed like he was the main assignment

[SOUL]

The sad thing is the Cavs announcer said, "This won't be a cakewalk like the Hawks game, the Magic actually compete" and then basically owned us from start to finish.

[Optimus_Steel]

Not a troll brother, call it as I see it, can assure you I’m as dedicated a fan as anyone here.. Just tired of this franchise always being about character and rainbows/butterflies—get a Draymond or Pat Beverly that will at least hold their teammates accountable… The constant inconsistency of this team tells me that the behind the door accountability isn’t there either….

I don't mean in the sense of not rooting for the team, I'm saying there is confirmation bias when you post.. meaning when the team is struggling or Paolo plays bad, I'm more likely to see you. We have a lot of these posters lol. Games like this aren't about player accountability, nobody wants to lose... it's literally not having the shot making to compete. You can't will the other team to miss shots. You can make it hard on them.. I think the Cavs shot making in the 1st were hard shots until they hit a bunch of those and the floodgates opened and then we gave open shots.

In fact, I'd say one of our strengths is that the team competes even when they're down. Early on in the season, I think for 20+ games, every game we won or lost we were winning at halftime. That's hard to do.

This Cavs team has blown out a bunch of teams lately, this is more of the same from them.

I can’t agree with that . This team have been blown out at home multiple times just like this. Tough start and they just quit like losers.

[Knightro]

Now you want to say it’s all read and react like it’s a YMCA pick up game. It’s not, it’s professionals who know playbooks and the defensive reactions they’re meant to look for, and spots they need to get to. That’s a game plan, and within that gameplan Mosley will highlight who and where he thinks the team will find easy buckets and where efforts should be focused.

If you think Mosley has no influence on who’s getting shots and where then I don’t know what to say. You can argue about whether it’s a specific play or the result of a looser gameplan, makes no difference to me. Having Wendell featured is the wrong move tonight.

If you think that the *GAME PLAN* as instructed by Mosley before the game started was for Carter to attack Allen tonight, then you really don't have a clue what you're talking about at all and are just complaining to complain.

[eyriq]

Tbh one shooter isn't going to fix this.

Harris for Buddy, Fultz for Tyus, JI for Huerter

The rotation would be

Tyus/Suggs/Franz/Paolo/WCJ
Cole/Hield/Huerter/Ingles/Moe

[Knightro]

What did I call “a play”? I said “gameplan”. That’s your disconnect, not mine.

Just nonsense stuff from somebody who doesn't really understand basketball.

[ORLMagicGirl15]

would have been nice to at least see Jett play tonight... sigh

There is a whole 4th quarter. Might as well empty the bench and let them play.

he's not on the bench tonight...

Oh, didn't realize.

[SOUL]

I can’t agree with that . This team have been blown out at home multiple times just like this. Tough start and they just quit like losers.

Can't agree with what? I didn't say anything unfactual lol. They led or were in every game for about a quarter of the season.

The first game they had no chance in was the Brooklyn game that ended our win streak, 20+ games into the season.

Since then, we got blown out vs. Boston, Philly, Minnty, etc.

But I can show you literally every team in the NBA getting blown out multiple times this year.

[eyriq]

Tbh one shooter isn't going to fix this.

Harris for Buddy, Fultz for Tyus, JI for Huerter

The rotation would be

Tyus/Suggs/Franz/Paolo/WCJ
Cole/Hield/Huerter/Ingles/Moe

I actually hate it. Where is Black? There is no hope