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Man it's crazy, I've seen Walter Clayton as low as like the 52nd pick, still have yet to see one where he's a first rounder
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KillMonger wrote:Man it's crazy, I've seen Walter Clayton as low as like the 52nd pick, still have yet to see one where he's a first rounder
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Mock drafts lag because they heavily overrate early season rankings and then there will be some that overrate the tourney. But when the dust settles and some go back to school for NIL money I think he will be late 1st maybe very early 2nd.
Margins for little guys that aren't great defenders are thin, but I do think he is an NBA player. And we do have a need for the archetype, so who knows.
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basketballRob wrote:Kneuppel has 4 younger brothers, so Duke will have Kneuppels for the next decade.
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Depends on the NIL money...
I mean... KK was supposed to be a Cavalier ( uva) before money talked. So expect if his aiblings are as talented that they get thrown big bucks by other schools as well.
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Clayton continues to dominate. 30 points against Texas tech in the elite 8. I don’t see how he isn’t a late 1st or early 2nd.
Haugh had a great game too. Promising looking 3&D stretch 4.
Haugh had a great game too. Promising looking 3&D stretch 4.
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Bensational wrote:Clayton continues to dominate. 30 points against Texas tech in the elite 8. I don’t see how he isn’t a late 1st or early 2nd.
Haugh had a great game too. Promising looking 3&D stretch 4.
I'd happily take him with one of our srps...but I'm not betting he can stick or create the same separation against NBA defenders. Great victory, but they look pretty beatable to me.
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Skybox wrote:Bensational wrote:Clayton continues to dominate. 30 points against Texas tech in the elite 8. I don’t see how he isn’t a late 1st or early 2nd.
Haugh had a great game too. Promising looking 3&D stretch 4.
I'd happily take him with one of our srps...but I'm not betting he can stick or create the same separation against NBA defenders. Great victory, but they look pretty beatable to me.
He is also listed at 6'3 by some profiles but he looks 6'2 with shoes at best based on eye test. Cold blooded 3pt shooter... in college of course.. then again, so was Cole Anthony so who knows..
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I watched Clayton last year get eliminated by my Huskies while he was a standout player for Iona. Now he got his revenge. My thoughts throughout the entire Uconn-Florida game was, "I would love this guy on the Magic."
"too small, can't defend" -- reminds me of the scouting report for a certain Jameer Nelson.
"too small, can't defend" -- reminds me of the scouting report for a certain Jameer Nelson.
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Assuming we keep the picks So far I like
Jase
Mcneeley
Traore
I really like Traore as a prospect atm.
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Jase
Mcneeley
Traore
I really like Traore as a prospect atm.
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draft strategy should be:
trade
trade
trade
trade
trade
trade
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pepe1991 wrote:draft strategy should be:
trade
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trade
I agree with this right here
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pepe1991 wrote:draft strategy should be:
trade
trade
trade
Your two choice are Cash Considerations vs taking Clayton and cutting Jett
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RichCollab wrote:pepe1991 wrote:draft strategy should be:
trade
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Your two choice are Cash Considerations vs taking Clayton and cutting Jett
What's the fascination with Clayton ?
College senior who's same age as Kuminga & Giddey who are finishing 4th nba year, dominating kids in unprofessional league
Guy is 6'2 -shoot first guard. You can probably get him for some minor trade with 40+ pick
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pepe1991 wrote:RichCollab wrote:pepe1991 wrote:draft strategy should be:
trade
trade
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Your two choice are Cash Considerations vs taking Clayton and cutting Jett
What's the fascination with Clayton ?
College senior who's same age as Kuminga & Giddey who are finishing 4th nba year, dominating kids in unprofessional league![]()
Guy is 6'2 -shoot first guard. You can probably get him for some minor trade with 40+ pick
It’s cash or Clayton. Up to you. You are on the clock
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pepe1991 wrote:
What's the fascination with Clayton ?
College senior who's same age as Kuminga & Giddey who are finishing 4th nba year, dominating kids in unprofessional league![]()
Guy is 6'2 -shoot first guard. You can probably get him for some minor trade with 40+ pick
Being a senior isn’t a negative. The hope would be he could be a FVV/Payton Pritchard kind of find, and ready to play sooner than a young project.
He has a crazy quick release and can get his shot off with a hand in his face and is a 39% 3pt shooter for his college career on over 5 attempts a game. Isn’t a complete liability on defense as he has decent weight and he can use that to body up well.
I’d take him with the Den pick or a 2rp happily as a replacement to Cole and bench scorer/shooter.
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Nah man.... Cole was like 34% from 3 in college iirc..... Warm bloodedRookieStar wrote:Skybox wrote:Bensational wrote:Clayton continues to dominate. 30 points against Texas tech in the elite 8. I don’t see how he isn’t a late 1st or early 2nd.
Haugh had a great game too. Promising looking 3&D stretch 4.
I'd happily take him with one of our srps...but I'm not betting he can stick or create the same separation against NBA defenders. Great victory, but they look pretty beatable to me.
He is also listed at 6'3 by some profiles but he looks 6'2 with shoes at best based on eye test. Cold blooded 3pt shooter... in college of course.. then again, so was Cole Anthony so who knows..
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Kneuppel looks like mini Franz. He could be a very interesting player. Is he in our range?
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MasterGMer wrote:Kneuppel looks like mini Franz. He could be a very interesting player. Is he in our range?
Somebody has to fall, but I think he has played too well this tourney to fall to us. There is always the chance we lose both play-in games and more players become possible, but I am working under the assumption that we make the playoffs.
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Idiosyncratic wrote:MasterGMer wrote:Kneuppel looks like mini Franz. He could be a very interesting player. Is he in our range?
Somebody has to fall, but I think he has played too well this tourney to fall to us. There is always the chance we lose both play-in games and more players become possible, but I am working under the assumption that we make the playoffs.
Who are you looking at in the first round with our pick? It is supposed to be a deep draft even outside lottery, right?
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MasterGMer wrote:Idiosyncratic wrote:MasterGMer wrote:Kneuppel looks like mini Franz. He could be a very interesting player. Is he in our range?
Somebody has to fall, but I think he has played too well this tourney to fall to us. There is always the chance we lose both play-in games and more players become possible, but I am working under the assumption that we make the playoffs.
Who are you looking at in the first round with our pick? It is supposed to be a deep draft even outside lottery, right?
I think most of my top targets are going to be gone, but I think I would take one of Fears, Richardson, Tre Johnson, Jakucionis or Traore in that order. The playmaking guards are just the most interesting to me in this draft and it isn't even just because of our need. I would also give big consideration to Maluach or Newell if they fell to us. Traore is probably the only of those players I would say is likely to make it to us. Boom or bust PG prospect with a lot of speed and passing chops. Mediocre numbers, but he played pro ball instead of college. Maybe the best passer in the class.
Opinions differ on the depth of the draft, but I personally think it is very deep. I think there are a ton of solid middle tier guys from just outside of the lottery even into the early 2nd and it will probably be a crapshoot to select who ends up being good, but there will be several gems IMO.
And you didn't ask, but if I went guard pick one I would look at a big with the 2nd pick. Sorber, Yaxel, Broome, and Wolf would be my top guys there and in that order.
I'm also very down for a trade. I think they have some options and they can always trade after the draft with future picks if one doesn't materialize on draft night.
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Idiosyncratic wrote:MasterGMer wrote:Idiosyncratic wrote:
Somebody has to fall, but I think he has played too well this tourney to fall to us. There is always the chance we lose both play-in games and more players become possible, but I am working under the assumption that we make the playoffs.
Who are you looking at in the first round with our pick? It is supposed to be a deep draft even outside lottery, right?
I think most of my top targets are going to be gone, but I think I would take one of Fears, Richardson, Tre Johnson, Jakucionis or Traore in that order. The playmaking guards are just the most interesting to me in this draft and it isn't even just because of our need. I would also give big consideration to Maluach or Newell if they fell to us. Traore is probably the only of those players I would say is likely to make it to us. Boom or bust PG prospect with a lot of speed and passing chops. Mediocre numbers, but he played pro ball instead of college. Maybe the best passer in the class.
Opinions differ on the depth of the draft, but I personally think it is very deep. I think there are a ton of solid middle tier guys from just outside of the lottery even into the early 2nd and it will probably be a crapshoot to select who ends up being good, but there will be several gems IMO.
And you didn't ask, but if I went guard pick one I would look at a big with the 2nd pick. Sorber, Yaxel, Broome, and Wolf would be my top guys there and in that order.
I'm also very down for a trade. I think they have some options and they can always trade after the draft with future picks if one doesn't materialize on draft night.
I like Broom. Maybe with the DEN pick? However, don't we have 3 Centers already. What about that French kid in the ESPN Mock draft who can be a rim protector we need?
Also with our 2nd round, what about a guy like Grant Nelson from Alabama? I think we can find some serviceable players and gem in the 2nd round.
What about UCF's Moustapha Thiam? Similar numbers as Maluach, just not proven success like Duke has. But similar players who can protect the rim plus a good mid range.







