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Re: Around the NBA, 2019/20 Edition 

Post#441 » by Tarheel » Tue Nov 19, 2019 4:51 pm

MagicFan101 wrote:
Driguez wrote:Luka is playing at a superstar level and it makes me sad :( :lol:


If Orlando can’t have him, I’m just happy I can walk to American Airlines Arena after work on home game nights for Box Seats shows to the Luka spectacle.

Leads me to this ...

Honest question:

You get your pick of Luka or Giannis (assume both are maxed out on a fresh 5 year deal). Who do you want to form a team around?


Luka, and I don't even stop to think.

Giannis is a monster, don't get me wrong, but needs a roster constructed around him to be fully maximised. Luka can be plugged into any basketball team and make every player on it better.
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Post#442 » by ezzzp » Tue Nov 19, 2019 6:34 pm

GelbeWand09 wrote:
Yea what i saw from Chuma & checking his stats, he looks like a potentially better defender than Gordon (better instincts & BBIQ), while being a better 3point shooter on offense. My biggest questionmark about Chuma (next to the injury), is his height. Wonder if he really can play extended PF minutes in the NBA. For me he looks more 6-6 than 6-8, which means, he probably isnt as versatile as Gordon on defense, but more minutes for JI as a PF + Aminu should negate that.



Aaron Gordon (18 years old at the 2015 NBA Draft Combine)
Height w/o shoes 6' 7.5"
Reach 8' 9''
Wingspan 6' 11.75''
Weight 220

Chuma Okeke (18 years old at the 2017 USA U19 Tryouts)
Height w/o shoes 6' 6"
Reach 8' 7''
Wingspan 7' 0''
Weight 233

Okeke's versatility to play PF shouldn't be an issue as he's already bulkier than AG and has same wingspan. I think Okeke is already strong enough to handle bigger wings and forwards. The question is does he have the agility and lateral speed to defend on the perimeter vs quicker players, that's a key trait that makes AG so versatile on defense.
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Re: Around the NBA, 2019/20 Edition 

Post#443 » by MoMM » Tue Nov 19, 2019 6:59 pm

MagicFan101 wrote:
Driguez wrote:Luka is playing at a superstar level and it makes me sad :( :lol:


If Orlando can’t have him, I’m just happy I can walk to American Airlines Arena after work on home game nights for Box Seats shows to the Luka spectacle.

Leads me to this ...

Honest question:

You get your pick of Luka or Giannis (assume both are maxed out on a fresh 5 year deal). Who do you want to form a team around?

Luka, he is a better overall player and a winner at all levels.

Imagine if we had Luka instead of Mo :cry:
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Re: Around the NBA, 2019/20 Edition 

Post#444 » by tiderulz » Tue Nov 19, 2019 7:33 pm

Tarheel wrote:
MagicFan101 wrote:
Driguez wrote:Luka is playing at a superstar level and it makes me sad :( :lol:


If Orlando can’t have him, I’m just happy I can walk to American Airlines Arena after work on home game nights for Box Seats shows to the Luka spectacle.

Leads me to this ...

Honest question:

You get your pick of Luka or Giannis (assume both are maxed out on a fresh 5 year deal). Who do you want to form a team around?


Luka, and I don't even stop to think.

Giannis is a monster, don't get me wrong, but needs a roster constructed around him to be fully maximised. Luka can be plugged into any basketball team and make every player on it better.


well, one that defends. Like Harden, he is horrid on defense.
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Re: Around the NBA, 2019/20 Edition 

Post#445 » by tiderulz » Tue Nov 19, 2019 7:33 pm

MoMM wrote:
MagicFan101 wrote:
Driguez wrote:Luka is playing at a superstar level and it makes me sad :( :lol:


If Orlando can’t have him, I’m just happy I can walk to American Airlines Arena after work on home game nights for Box Seats shows to the Luka spectacle.

Leads me to this ...

Honest question:

You get your pick of Luka or Giannis (assume both are maxed out on a fresh 5 year deal). Who do you want to form a team around?

Luka, he is a better overall player and a winner at all levels.

Imagine if we had Luka instead of Mo :cry:

not just Luka, imagine if we had SGA instead of Mo
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Re: Around the NBA, 2019/20 Edition 

Post#446 » by pepe1991 » Tue Nov 19, 2019 10:02 pm

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pepe1991 wrote:
OrlandoNed wrote:Well, if said better teams were some of the greatest teams in history, I'd be willing to cut them a bit of slack.

Now adding Westbrook, that's gonna be an issue.


Well that "not built for playoffs" roster with Harden would probably be NBA champion in 2018 if Warriors didn't have 4 allstars roster as Houston was only team that challenged them.


I don’t see a Harden dominant team winning a championship in any year.

Had those players not assembled in GS they would have assembled elsewhere with different stars. The jerseys and names would have changed but a dominant foe would have stood in their way. At least one such team along the long playoff road would have been more balanced than the chucking Harden roster.


You forgot how nba playoffs in 2018 played out?
Houston got them, 3-2 , and in gamae 7 just couldn't make shots.
And that's against team with prime Durant, Curry, Klay and Green.
Same team that whooped Cavs in finals. So if they didn't have just one of their stars ( like it happend year after, when they got all hurt) Rockets and Harde would have been champions because they were simply waaaay more talented than Cavs.
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Re: Around the NBA, 2019/20 Edition 

Post#447 » by MagicFan101 » Tue Nov 19, 2019 11:13 pm

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MagicFan101 wrote:
pepe1991 wrote:
Well that "not built for playoffs" roster with Harden would probably be NBA champion in 2018 if Warriors didn't have 4 allstars roster as Houston was only team that challenged them.


I don’t see a Harden dominant team winning a championship in any year.

Had those players not assembled in GS they would have assembled elsewhere with different stars. The jerseys and names would have changed but a dominant foe would have stood in their way. At least one such team along the long playoff road would have been more balanced than the chucking Harden roster.


You forgot how nba playoffs in 2018 played out?
Houston got them, 3-2 , and in gamae 7 just couldn't make shots.
And that's against team with prime Durant, Curry, Klay and Green.
Same team that whooped Cavs in finals. So if they didn't have just one of their stars ( like it happend year after, when they got all hurt) Rockets and Harde would have been champions because they were simply waaaay more talented than Cavs.



:roll: :crazy:

Didn’t even try to read? Why bother?
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Re: Around the NBA, 2019/20 Edition 

Post#448 » by BadMofoPimp » Tue Nov 19, 2019 11:44 pm

pepe1991 wrote:
MagicFan101 wrote:
pepe1991 wrote:
Well that "not built for playoffs" roster with Harden would probably be NBA champion in 2018 if Warriors didn't have 4 allstars roster as Houston was only team that challenged them.


I don’t see a Harden dominant team winning a championship in any year.

Had those players not assembled in GS they would have assembled elsewhere with different stars. The jerseys and names would have changed but a dominant foe would have stood in their way. At least one such team along the long playoff road would have been more balanced than the chucking Harden roster.


You forgot how nba playoffs in 2018 played out?
Houston got them, 3-2 , and in gamae 7 just couldn't make shots.
And that's against team with prime Durant, Curry, Klay and Green.
Same team that whooped Cavs in finals. So if they didn't have just one of their stars ( like it happend year after, when they got all hurt) Rockets and Harde would have been champions because they were simply waaaay more talented than Cavs.


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Post#449 » by basketballRob » Wed Nov 20, 2019 12:22 am

Isaac sounds like he'll play tomorrow.

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Re: Around the NBA, 2019/20 Edition 

Post#450 » by pepe1991 » Wed Nov 20, 2019 7:29 am

MagicFan101 wrote:
pepe1991 wrote:
MagicFan101 wrote:
I don’t see a Harden dominant team winning a championship in any year.

Had those players not assembled in GS they would have assembled elsewhere with different stars. The jerseys and names would have changed but a dominant foe would have stood in their way. At least one such team along the long playoff road would have been more balanced than the chucking Harden roster.


You forgot how nba playoffs in 2018 played out?
Houston got them, 3-2 , and in gamae 7 just couldn't make shots.
And that's against team with prime Durant, Curry, Klay and Green.
Same team that whooped Cavs in finals. So if they didn't have just one of their stars ( like it happend year after, when they got all hurt) Rockets and Harde would have been champions because they were simply waaaay more talented than Cavs.



:roll: :crazy:

Didn’t even try to read? Why bother?



No, you just make false assumption that "Harden isn't winner" or whatever just because he still didn't win title, when in reality his team was never favorite to win one, yet you just ignore that and ignore that in 2018 he was stopped by probably most talented roster in basketball history, and even they needed 7 games to beat Harden led Houston. OH and by the way, his second best player that year, Chris Paul DID NOT PLAY GAME 6 AND GAME 7 of that series.

It's just being ignorant because you don't like somebody, i don't like Harden either, i hate his playing style, but making stuff like "At least one such team along the long playoff road would have been more balanced than the chucking Harden roster." is simply false as Harden led Houston beat: Minessota with Butler and Towns, beat Jazz with Mitchell and Gobert, beat OKC with Westbrook.

He does win games and win playoff series, he just didn't get over a hump. Yet.
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Re: Around the NBA, 2019/20 Edition 

Post#451 » by GelbeWand09 » Wed Nov 20, 2019 7:47 am

Tarheel wrote:
MagicFan101 wrote:
Driguez wrote:Luka is playing at a superstar level and it makes me sad :( :lol:


If Orlando can’t have him, I’m just happy I can walk to American Airlines Arena after work on home game nights for Box Seats shows to the Luka spectacle.

Leads me to this ...

Honest question:

You get your pick of Luka or Giannis (assume both are maxed out on a fresh 5 year deal). Who do you want to form a team around?


Luka, and I don't even stop to think.

Giannis is a monster, don't get me wrong, but needs a roster constructed around him to be fully maximised. Luka can be plugged into any basketball team and make every player on it better.


But its the same for Luka. Whats the difference of constructing a team with shooting around Giannis & defense around Luka?
I still take Giannis, because you know you got easy a top 5 offense & defense team, with some shooting around him. Dallas got a bunch of high level defenders and are still only 18th in def. rating, because Luka only plays one side of the game. I love watching Luka, even before the NBA, but so far Giannis is the safer bet to get a elite team.
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Re: Around the NBA, 2019/20 Edition 

Post#452 » by pepe1991 » Wed Nov 20, 2019 7:59 am

GelbeWand09 wrote:
Tarheel wrote:
MagicFan101 wrote:
If Orlando can’t have him, I’m just happy I can walk to American Airlines Arena after work on home game nights for Box Seats shows to the Luka spectacle.

Leads me to this ...

Honest question:

You get your pick of Luka or Giannis (assume both are maxed out on a fresh 5 year deal). Who do you want to form a team around?


Luka, and I don't even stop to think.

Giannis is a monster, don't get me wrong, but needs a roster constructed around him to be fully maximised. Luka can be plugged into any basketball team and make every player on it better.


But its the same for Luka. Whats the difference of constructing a team with shooting around Giannis & defense around Luka?
I still take Giannis, because you know you got easy a top 5 offense & defense team, with some shooting around him. Dallas got a bunch of high level defenders and are still only 18th in def. rating, because Luka only plays one side of the game. I love watching Luka, even before the NBA, but so far Giannis is the safer bet to get a elite team.


Luka is actually average defender, nothing special but doesn't really blow up their defense.
Right now i would take Giannis, mostly because he is more experienced ( at nba level at least ) and few years older.
But if you are in playoffs and you need somebody down the streach to make right plays, 2,3 years from now, i would trust Doncic to do it way more than i trust Giannis. Mostly because Doncic already showed in other competitions he is composed and calm in high pressure situations, where Giannis due his lack of shooting is pretty much one trick pony, he'll attack you off high pick&roll and you will set double "wall" of defense in front of him to stop penetration.
One of main reasons Greece still can't do jack ***t with GIannis is how he plays in half court. For same reasons Raptors beat them last year. On open court he is probably the greatest player of all time, but there is no much open court in playoffs.

Oh also Doncic will make his +80% FTs where Giannis nowdays shoots airballs for whatever reason, and his 3 ball is nowhere to be found.

Where Giannis can in some scenario end up being top 5 player ever , i think key for him to unlock " championship" mode is to find elite playmaker. God, imagine if he leaves Bucks for Dallas :lol:
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Re: Around the NBA, 2019/20 Edition 

Post#453 » by GelbeWand09 » Wed Nov 20, 2019 8:20 am

pepe1991 wrote:
GelbeWand09 wrote:
Tarheel wrote:
Luka, and I don't even stop to think.

Giannis is a monster, don't get me wrong, but needs a roster constructed around him to be fully maximised. Luka can be plugged into any basketball team and make every player on it better.


But its the same for Luka. Whats the difference of constructing a team with shooting around Giannis & defense around Luka?
I still take Giannis, because you know you got easy a top 5 offense & defense team, with some shooting around him. Dallas got a bunch of high level defenders and are still only 18th in def. rating, because Luka only plays one side of the game. I love watching Luka, even before the NBA, but so far Giannis is the safer bet to get a elite team.


Luka is actually average defender, nothing special but doesn't really blow up their defense.
Right now i would take Giannis, mostly because he is more experienced and few years older.
But if you are in playoffs and you need somebody down the streach to make right plays, 2,3 years from now, i would trust Doncic to do it way more than i trust Giannis. Mostly because Doncic already showed in other competitions he is composed and calm in high pressure situations, where Giannis due his lack of shooting is pretty much one trick pony, he'll attack you off high pick&roll and you will set double "wall" of defense in front of him to stop penetration.
One of main reasons Greece still can't do jack ***t with GIannis is how he plays in half court. For same reasons Raptors beat them last year. On open court he is probably the greatest player of all time, but there is no much open court in playoffs.

Oh also Doncic will make his +80% FTs where Giannis nowdays shoots airballs for whatever reason, and his 3 ball is nowhere to be found.

Where Giannis can in some scenario end up being top 5 player ever , i think key for him to unlock " championship" mode is to find elite playmaker. God, imagine if he leaves Bucks for Dallas :lol:


Yea there future playoff performances gonna play a huge role, but we have to see Luka 1st there. I can see Luka be the better future playoff performer for sure. My biggest questionmark is his 3Pt shot, he is well below avg & if i remember correctly was in europe too already. Against playoff defenses designed to stop him, he needs to hit those on a higher clip to make noise in the playoffs. I hope Dallas reaches the playoffs, really wanna watch Luka do some damage there. I'm really curious to see Giannis this year too. Except Philly i can't see a team defending him like Toronto last year (Toronto maybe still does, but Giannis literally destroys Siakam everytime). Philly got the pieces but they don't have any late game playmaker and shot maker at all. I'm not sure Philly even comes out of the 1st round if they doesnt get there **** together. Embiid looks bad so far, even on defense & Simmons is still useless in the 4th quarter.
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Re: Around the NBA, 2019/20 Edition 

Post#454 » by GelbeWand09 » Wed Nov 20, 2019 8:30 am

GelbeWand09 wrote:
pepe1991 wrote:
GelbeWand09 wrote:
But its the same for Luka. Whats the difference of constructing a team with shooting around Giannis & defense around Luka?
I still take Giannis, because you know you got easy a top 5 offense & defense team, with some shooting around him. Dallas got a bunch of high level defenders and are still only 18th in def. rating, because Luka only plays one side of the game. I love watching Luka, even before the NBA, but so far Giannis is the safer bet to get a elite team.


Luka is actually average defender, nothing special but doesn't really blow up their defense.
Right now i would take Giannis, mostly because he is more experienced and few years older.
But if you are in playoffs and you need somebody down the streach to make right plays, 2,3 years from now, i would trust Doncic to do it way more than i trust Giannis. Mostly because Doncic already showed in other competitions he is composed and calm in high pressure situations, where Giannis due his lack of shooting is pretty much one trick pony, he'll attack you off high pick&roll and you will set double "wall" of defense in front of him to stop penetration.
One of main reasons Greece still can't do jack ***t with GIannis is how he plays in half court. For same reasons Raptors beat them last year. On open court he is probably the greatest player of all time, but there is no much open court in playoffs.

Oh also Doncic will make his +80% FTs where Giannis nowdays shoots airballs for whatever reason, and his 3 ball is nowhere to be found.

Where Giannis can in some scenario end up being top 5 player ever , i think key for him to unlock " championship" mode is to find elite playmaker. God, imagine if he leaves Bucks for Dallas :lol:


Yea there future playoff performances gonna play a huge role, but we have to see Luka 1st there. I can see Luka be the better future playoff performer for sure. My biggest questionmark is his 3Pt shot, he is well below avg & if i remember correctly was in europe too already. Against playoff defenses designed to stop him, he needs to hit those on a higher clip to make noise in the playoffs. I hope Dallas reaches the playoffs, really wanna watch Luka do some damage there. I'm really curious to see Giannis this year too. Except Philly i can't see a team defending him like Toronto last year (Toronto maybe still does, but Giannis literally destroys Siakam everytime). Philly got the pieces but they don't have any late game playmaker and shot maker at all. I'm not sure Philly even comes out of the 1st round if they doesnt get there **** together. Embiid looks bad so far, even on defense & Simmons is still useless in the 4th quarter.


Some other NBA stuff:
JJJr again fouled out and this time in 18 min. :nonono:
Phoenix slowly coming back down to earth, since there defense gets worse.
Sac looks better with Bogdan & Joseph doing the playmaking than Fox :o Bogdan 21 ppg & 6 apg while shooting over 50 FG% & 57 3P% over the last 6 games. For Sac maybe even a bad thing. Can't see them able to resign him, when he plays like this after the contracts they gave out already and Fox & Bagley still coming up.

Like i said before, Portland is my west team. Pretty hard watching them now, with 2 of my least favorite players in Whiteside & Melo :lol:
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Post#455 » by pepe1991 » Wed Nov 20, 2019 8:42 am

GelbeWand09 wrote:
pepe1991 wrote:
GelbeWand09 wrote:
But its the same for Luka. Whats the difference of constructing a team with shooting around Giannis & defense around Luka?
I still take Giannis, because you know you got easy a top 5 offense & defense team, with some shooting around him. Dallas got a bunch of high level defenders and are still only 18th in def. rating, because Luka only plays one side of the game. I love watching Luka, even before the NBA, but so far Giannis is the safer bet to get a elite team.


Luka is actually average defender, nothing special but doesn't really blow up their defense.
Right now i would take Giannis, mostly because he is more experienced and few years older.
But if you are in playoffs and you need somebody down the streach to make right plays, 2,3 years from now, i would trust Doncic to do it way more than i trust Giannis. Mostly because Doncic already showed in other competitions he is composed and calm in high pressure situations, where Giannis due his lack of shooting is pretty much one trick pony, he'll attack you off high pick&roll and you will set double "wall" of defense in front of him to stop penetration.
One of main reasons Greece still can't do jack ***t with GIannis is how he plays in half court. For same reasons Raptors beat them last year. On open court he is probably the greatest player of all time, but there is no much open court in playoffs.

Oh also Doncic will make his +80% FTs where Giannis nowdays shoots airballs for whatever reason, and his 3 ball is nowhere to be found.

Where Giannis can in some scenario end up being top 5 player ever , i think key for him to unlock " championship" mode is to find elite playmaker. God, imagine if he leaves Bucks for Dallas :lol:


Yea there future playoff performances gonna play a huge role, but we have to see Luka 1st there. I can see Luka be the better future playoff performer for sure. My biggest questionmark is his 3Pt shot, he is well below avg & if i remember correctly was in europe too already. Against playoff defenses designed to stop him, he needs to hit those on a higher clip to make noise in the playoffs. I hope Dallas reaches the playoffs, really wanna watch Luka do some damage there. I'm really curious to see Giannis this year too. Except Philly i can't see a team defending him like Toronto last year (Toronto maybe still does, but Giannis literally destroys Siakam everytime). Philly got the pieces but they don't have any late game playmaker and shot maker at all. I'm not sure Philly even comes out of the 1st round if they doesnt get there **** together. Embiid looks bad so far, even on defense & Simmons is still useless in the 4th quarter.


Luka and Harden are great shooters, but they make thins hard on themselfs.
Do you know that Luka has less assisted 3s than Harden ? :lol:
RIght now it's more about who Luka plays with, it's not like Hardaway or Seth Curry will make plays to get him open.

Philly will have issues with outside shooting, Korkmaz is fine, i still think they should have kept JJ .
Right now they are miserable from outside ( Richardson 31%, Horford 31%, Harris 25,5%).
Bucks biggest adventage over Philly is fact that Simmons plays like poor man Giannis and struggles from same areas, just is much worst.
Embiid looks slow. I was betting for him to score <25 points against Cavs, guy was horrid, scored 14 :lol:
If i'm Celtics i would just push for Adams trade ( or Noel, or any center who can defend) and i'm going for Eastern Conference.
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Post#456 » by cedric76 » Wed Nov 20, 2019 9:57 am

What's wrong with portland and melo?

The guy has not played for over a year and chuck 14 shot in 24 min

Portland r crazy to let hik take that many shots

Portland is crazy to make him start

Melo will never change

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Re: Around the NBA, 2019/20 Edition 

Post#457 » by Tarheel » Wed Nov 20, 2019 10:02 am

GelbeWand09 wrote:
Tarheel wrote:
MagicFan101 wrote:
If Orlando can’t have him, I’m just happy I can walk to American Airlines Arena after work on home game nights for Box Seats shows to the Luka spectacle.

Leads me to this ...

Honest question:

You get your pick of Luka or Giannis (assume both are maxed out on a fresh 5 year deal). Who do you want to form a team around?


Luka, and I don't even stop to think.

Giannis is a monster, don't get me wrong, but needs a roster constructed around him to be fully maximised. Luka can be plugged into any basketball team and make every player on it better.


But its the same for Luka. Whats the difference of constructing a team with shooting around Giannis & defense around Luka?
I still take Giannis, because you know you got easy a top 5 offense & defense team, with some shooting around him. Dallas got a bunch of high level defenders and are still only 18th in def. rating, because Luka only plays one side of the game. I love watching Luka, even before the NBA, but so far Giannis is the safer bet to get a elite team.


Because you need to have shooting around Giannis to construct a high level roster.

I don't think you need to have defence around Luka in order to do the same. Luka affords you much more flexibility in building an elite team and I think that gives him more value.

Even if I agreed with your point I would still take Luka. Elite defenders are easier to acquire than elite shooters (see Magic, Orlando) and so constructing an elite roster is still easier with him.
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Post#458 » by pepe1991 » Wed Nov 20, 2019 10:28 am

cedric76 wrote:What's wrong with portland and melo?

The guy has not played for over a year and chuck 14 shot in 24 min

Portland r crazy to let hik take that many shots

Portland is crazy to make him start

Melo will never change

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A selfish low iq chucker


Portland stuffed their roster with players that don't make anybody else better ,don't defend and just score at high volumen.

Melo didn't play basketball in ages, i don't think he did anything bad last game, he'll need time to shake some rust.
IMO there are teams better than Portland that could still use Melo off bench and actually benefit from him ( Jazz, 76ers, Bucks, pretty much anybody on East... )
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Re: Around the NBA, 2019/20 Edition 

Post#459 » by GelbeWand09 » Wed Nov 20, 2019 12:39 pm

Tarheel wrote:
GelbeWand09 wrote:
Tarheel wrote:
Luka, and I don't even stop to think.

Giannis is a monster, don't get me wrong, but needs a roster constructed around him to be fully maximised. Luka can be plugged into any basketball team and make every player on it better.


But its the same for Luka. Whats the difference of constructing a team with shooting around Giannis & defense around Luka?
I still take Giannis, because you know you got easy a top 5 offense & defense team, with some shooting around him. Dallas got a bunch of high level defenders and are still only 18th in def. rating, because Luka only plays one side of the game. I love watching Luka, even before the NBA, but so far Giannis is the safer bet to get a elite team.


Because you need to have shooting around Giannis to construct a high level roster.

I don't think you need to have defence around Luka in order to do the same. Luka affords you much more flexibility in building an elite team and I think that gives him more value.

Even if I agreed with your point I would still take Luka. Elite defenders are easier to acquire than elite shooters (see Magic, Orlando) and so constructing an elite roster is still easier with him.


Defense yes, but not Giannis kind of defense. Look at Mil. roster. A bunch of slow, kinda old players, except Bledsoe. He is one of 3-4 defensive anchors in the leaque & the best 2 way player. Like i said with Giannis you are almost garanteed top 10 offense / top 10 defense. Dallas even with 2-3 high quality defenders, is 18th in def. rating. You won't win a ship without being top 10 in both. We dont have shooters, because the FO doesnt value them as much as other franchises. I won't say its harder to get shooters than elite defenders.
In 2-3 years i can see Doncic being the flat out better player & i like watching him more for sure, but now Giannis almost guarantees you a top 5 team in the leaque. Luka doesnt guarantee you a WC playoff spot.
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Re: Around the NBA, 2019/20 Edition 

Post#460 » by GelbeWand09 » Wed Nov 20, 2019 12:45 pm

pepe1991 wrote:
cedric76 wrote:What's wrong with portland and melo?

The guy has not played for over a year and chuck 14 shot in 24 min

Portland r crazy to let hik take that many shots

Portland is crazy to make him start

Melo will never change

0 assists
5 to
5 pf

A selfish low iq chucker


Portland stuffed their roster with players that don't make anybody else better ,don't defend and just score at high volumen.

Melo didn't play basketball in ages, i don't think he did anything bad last game, he'll need time to shake some rust.
IMO there are teams better than Portland that could still use Melo off bench and actually benefit from him ( Jazz, 76ers, Bucks, pretty much anybody on East... )


Probably best thing for Portland is missing the playoffs this year. Nurkic is injured anyway most of the season. Same for Collins, who is there Isaac light.
Trade Whiteside's & Bazemore's expiring contracts, for another quality player & develop Simons this season.
Next year attack again with Dame, CJ, Nurkic, Collins, better Simons, Top 10 pick & what they got for those big expirings.

But Melo is a great stealth tank commander anyway :lol:

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