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Official 2020 NBA Draft Thread

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What kind of player do you think we need most?

Point Guard
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Great Shooter
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3&D Wing
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Post#441 » by zaymon » Sun May 31, 2020 6:15 pm

MagicFan101 wrote:The above is a very different tone from me than years past but this is a different quality of draft class, COVID has left us with a different NCAA season / scouting process, we lack a top pick and I have a glimmer of hope that Fultz&Isaac are worth investing a season or two to build around.

So it is what it is. Perhaps we will be back at the top of the draft in a year and I’ll be all about Talent > Fit soon enough!!

I agree about Vassell, but as you mentioned i dont believe he will be available. Maybe i am too optimistic but i feel Weltman will shoot for potential stars until he is fired. ( preferably he retires after multiple championships ;) )
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Post#442 » by MagicFan101 » Sun May 31, 2020 6:56 pm

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MagicFan101 wrote:The above is a very different tone from me than years past but this is a different quality of draft class, COVID has left us with a different NCAA season / scouting process, we lack a top pick and I have a glimmer of hope that Fultz&Isaac are worth investing a season or two to build around.

So it is what it is. Perhaps we will be back at the top of the draft in a year and I’ll be all about Talent > Fit soon enough!!

I agree about Vassell, but as you mentioned i dont believe he will be available. Maybe i am too optimistic but i feel Weltman will shoot for potential stars until he is fired. ( preferably he retires after multiple championships ;) )


Well, that is the problem though. Who is a clear “Boom or Bust“ prospect in class likely to be available in the middle of the first round with legit STAR potential?

I agree that is what Weltman typically goes for but there has to be such a player available. I don’t think this class has it and worse yet, I don’t think the circumstances of social distancing allow Weltman and team the chance to get close enough to find the hidden gem.

I think they have to play it safe.
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Post#443 » by zaymon » Sun May 31, 2020 7:23 pm

MagicFan101 wrote:
zaymon wrote:
MagicFan101 wrote:The above is a very different tone from me than years past but this is a different quality of draft class, COVID has left us with a different NCAA season / scouting process, we lack a top pick and I have a glimmer of hope that Fultz&Isaac are worth investing a season or two to build around.

So it is what it is. Perhaps we will be back at the top of the draft in a year and I’ll be all about Talent > Fit soon enough!!

I agree about Vassell, but as you mentioned i dont believe he will be available. Maybe i am too optimistic but i feel Weltman will shoot for potential stars until he is fired. ( preferably he retires after multiple championships ;) )


Well, that is the problem though. Who is a clear “Boom or Bust“ prospect in class likely to be available in the middle of the first round with legit STAR potential?

I agree that is what Weltman typically goes for but there has to be such a player available. I don’t think this class has it and worse yet, I don’t think the circumstances of social distancing allow Weltman and team the chance to get close enough to find the hidden gem.

I think they have to play it safe.

Some food for thought:
1. Pokusevski- mobile, skilled, 7 footer, looks like every first rounder we ever drafted under Weltman.
2. Hampton- extremely athletic wing with some passing touch but limited shooter with average feel for the game ( kind of similar to smaller Gordon?)
3. McDaniels- i hope not, but he is propably the biggest bust of all the booms.
4. Bolmaro- Weltman and Hammond like to draft low hype, under the radar guys and some think Bolmaro has lead ball handler skill potential ( sadly not athletecism but he should be long enough for Weltman).

There is also athletic Ramsey but i dont like him.
Ps. Okoro could fall and Riller is a dynamite.
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Re: Official 2020 NBA Draft Thread 

Post#444 » by MagicFan101 » Sun May 31, 2020 7:35 pm

zaymon wrote:
MagicFan101 wrote:
zaymon wrote:I agree about Vassell, but as you mentioned i dont believe he will be available. Maybe i am too optimistic but i feel Weltman will shoot for potential stars until he is fired. ( preferably he retires after multiple championships ;) )


Well, that is the problem though. Who is a clear “Boom or Bust“ prospect in class likely to be available in the middle of the first round with legit STAR potential?

I agree that is what Weltman typically goes for but there has to be such a player available. I don’t think this class has it and worse yet, I don’t think the circumstances of social distancing allow Weltman and team the chance to get close enough to find the hidden gem.

I think they have to play it safe.

Some food for thought:
1. Pokusevski- mobile, skilled, 7 footer, looks like every first rounder we ever drafted under Weltman.
2. Hampton- extremely athletic wing with some passing touch but limited shooter with average feel for the game ( kind of similar to smaller Gordon?)
3. McDaniels- i hope not, but he is propably the biggest bust of all the booms.
4. Bolmaro- Weltman and Hammond like to draft low hype, under the radar guys and some think Bolmaro has lead ball handler skill potential ( sadly not athletecism but he should be long enough for Weltman).

There is also athletic Ramsey but i dont like him.
Ps. Okoro could fall and Riller is a dynamite.


Sure.

But when they drafted Giannis he was a guy announcers pointed to on draft nights as the freak who could change the league ... or never see a minute of playing time.

No one is talking about any of these guys with that kind of potential. That is all I’m saying. There is no such player in this class with incredible hype around them but enough flaws that they might be available.

Sure, players like Draymond Green and Gilbert Arenas go overlooked all the time and someone outplays their draft slot. That’s a different scenario.
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Post#445 » by drsd » Sun May 31, 2020 7:45 pm

MagicFan101 wrote:Sure.

But when they drafted Giannis he was a guy announcers pointed to on draft nights as the freak who could change the league ... or never see a minute of playing time.

No one is talking about any of these guys with that kind of potential. That is all I’m saying. There is no such player in this class with incredible hype around them but enough flaws that they might be available.

Sure, players like Draymond Green and Gilbert Arenas go overlooked all the time and someone outplays their draft slot. That’s a different scenario.



Any scouting on Théo Maledon?

He is in the mid-teen on some backs, but I know nothing of his game.


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Post#446 » by basketballRob » Sun May 31, 2020 7:56 pm

drsd wrote:
MagicFan101 wrote:Sure.

But when they drafted Giannis he was a guy announcers pointed to on draft nights as the freak who could change the league ... or never see a minute of playing time.

No one is talking about any of these guys with that kind of potential. That is all I’m saying. There is no such player in this class with incredible hype around them but enough flaws that they might be available.

Sure, players like Draymond Green and Gilbert Arenas go overlooked all the time and someone outplays their draft slot. That’s a different scenario.



Any scouting on Théo Maledon?

He is in the mid-teen on some backs, but I know nothing of his game.


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Who cares how he plays, he has a 6'9" wingspan.

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Post#447 » by zaymon » Sun May 31, 2020 8:07 pm

drsd wrote:
MagicFan101 wrote:Sure.

But when they drafted Giannis he was a guy announcers pointed to on draft nights as the freak who could change the league ... or never see a minute of playing time.

No one is talking about any of these guys with that kind of potential. That is all I’m saying. There is no such player in this class with incredible hype around them but enough flaws that they might be available.

Sure, players like Draymond Green and Gilbert Arenas go overlooked all the time and someone outplays their draft slot. That’s a different scenario.



Any scouting on Théo Maledon?

He is in the mid-teen on some backs, but I know nothing of his game.


..

combo guard who doesnt have the athletecism or handle to be a lead ball handler, but is long, has good feel for the game, and some uncertainty regarding his recent injury and rigid offensive system he was playing in. Someone like worse passer Lonzo Ball or Nickeil Alexander Walker.
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Post#448 » by MagicFan101 » Sun May 31, 2020 8:21 pm

drsd wrote:
MagicFan101 wrote:Sure.

But when they drafted Giannis he was a guy announcers pointed to on draft nights as the freak who could change the league ... or never see a minute of playing time.

No one is talking about any of these guys with that kind of potential. That is all I’m saying. There is no such player in this class with incredible hype around them but enough flaws that they might be available.

Sure, players like Draymond Green and Gilbert Arenas go overlooked all the time and someone outplays their draft slot. That’s a different scenario.



Any scouting on Théo Maledon?

He is in the mid-teen on some backs, but I know nothing of his game.


..


He’s on my list. I have not gotten to him yet.
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Post#449 » by VFX » Sun May 31, 2020 8:49 pm

zaymon wrote:
MagicFan101 wrote:
zaymon wrote:I agree about Vassell, but as you mentioned i dont believe he will be available. Maybe i am too optimistic but i feel Weltman will shoot for potential stars until he is fired. ( preferably he retires after multiple championships ;) )


Well, that is the problem though. Who is a clear “Boom or Bust“ prospect in class likely to be available in the middle of the first round with legit STAR potential?

I agree that is what Weltman typically goes for but there has to be such a player available. I don’t think this class has it and worse yet, I don’t think the circumstances of social distancing allow Weltman and team the chance to get close enough to find the hidden gem.

I think they have to play it safe.

Some food for thought:
1. Pokusevski- mobile, skilled, 7 footer, looks like every first rounder we ever drafted under Weltman.
2. Hampton- extremely athletic wing with some passing touch but limited shooter with average feel for the game ( kind of similar to smaller Gordon?)
3. McDaniels- i hope not, but he is propably the biggest bust of all the booms.
4. Bolmaro- Weltman and Hammond like to draft low hype, under the radar guys and some think Bolmaro has lead ball handler skill potential ( sadly not athletecism but he should be long enough for Weltman).

There is also athletic Ramsey but i dont like him.
Ps. Okoro could fall and Riller is a dynamite.


WeHam have never drafted players on anything other than measurements, nor have they looked to add skill sets that Orlando has lacked.

With that in mind, your list is probably the most accurate unfortunately. Paul Reed screams WeHam pick because he’s under the radar, a hard worker, and wouldn’t see the court for Orlando for years to come.
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Post#450 » by zaymon » Sun May 31, 2020 9:23 pm

MagicMatic wrote:
zaymon wrote:
MagicFan101 wrote:
Well, that is the problem though. Who is a clear “Boom or Bust“ prospect in class likely to be available in the middle of the first round with legit STAR potential?

I agree that is what Weltman typically goes for but there has to be such a player available. I don’t think this class has it and worse yet, I don’t think the circumstances of social distancing allow Weltman and team the chance to get close enough to find the hidden gem.

I think they have to play it safe.

Some food for thought:
1. Pokusevski- mobile, skilled, 7 footer, looks like every first rounder we ever drafted under Weltman.
2. Hampton- extremely athletic wing with some passing touch but limited shooter with average feel for the game ( kind of similar to smaller Gordon?)
3. McDaniels- i hope not, but he is propably the biggest bust of all the booms.
4. Bolmaro- Weltman and Hammond like to draft low hype, under the radar guys and some think Bolmaro has lead ball handler skill potential ( sadly not athletecism but he should be long enough for Weltman).

There is also athletic Ramsey but i dont like him.
Ps. Okoro could fall and Riller is a dynamite.


WeHam have never drafted players on anything other than measurements, nor have they looked to add skill sets that Orlando has lacked.

With that in mind, your list is probably the most accurate unfortunately. Paul Reed screams WeHam pick because he’s under the radar, a hard worker, and wouldn’t see the court for Orlando for years to come.

100 % agree with Reed. He is under the radar but I didnt include him on this list becouse i think he has a moderatly higher floor defensively and significantly lower offensively.
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Post#451 » by VFX » Sun May 31, 2020 9:29 pm

zaymon wrote:
MagicMatic wrote:
zaymon wrote:Some food for thought:
1. Pokusevski- mobile, skilled, 7 footer, looks like every first rounder we ever drafted under Weltman.
2. Hampton- extremely athletic wing with some passing touch but limited shooter with average feel for the game ( kind of similar to smaller Gordon?)
3. McDaniels- i hope not, but he is propably the biggest bust of all the booms.
4. Bolmaro- Weltman and Hammond like to draft low hype, under the radar guys and some think Bolmaro has lead ball handler skill potential ( sadly not athletecism but he should be long enough for Weltman).

There is also athletic Ramsey but i dont like him.
Ps. Okoro could fall and Riller is a dynamite.


WeHam have never drafted players on anything other than measurements, nor have they looked to add skill sets that Orlando has lacked.

With that in mind, your list is probably the most accurate unfortunately. Paul Reed screams WeHam pick because he’s under the radar, a hard worker, and wouldn’t see the court for Orlando for years to come.

100 % agree with Reed. He is under the radar but I didnt include him on this list becouse i think he has a moderatly higher floor defensively and significantly lower offensively.


What do you mean? Wouldn’t that make him a shoe-in for their draft metrics? If anything, that’s exactly the kind of player they’ve drafted 3 years running.
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Post#452 » by Knightro » Sun May 31, 2020 9:35 pm

I like a good bit of the talent that should be available in that 10-15 range where the Magic are slotted.

For the sake of this discussion, let's say that Ball, Edwards, Wiseman, Toppin, Hayes, Okongwu, Haliburton and Avdija are all lotto picks.

The Magic in theory will be able to come away at least with one of these guys...

Cole Anthony
Aaron Nesmith
Devin Vassell
Theo Maledon
RJ Hampton
Tyrese Maxey
Kira Lewis Jr.

All of these guys could help the team as possible rotation players long-term.
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Post#453 » by zaymon » Sun May 31, 2020 9:47 pm

MagicMatic wrote:
zaymon wrote:
MagicMatic wrote:
WeHam have never drafted players on anything other than measurements, nor have they looked to add skill sets that Orlando has lacked.

With that in mind, your list is probably the most accurate unfortunately. Paul Reed screams WeHam pick because he’s under the radar, a hard worker, and wouldn’t see the court for Orlando for years to come.

100 % agree with Reed. He is under the radar but I didnt include him on this list becouse i think he has a moderatly higher floor defensively and significantly lower offensively.


What do you mean? Wouldn’t that make him a shoe-in for their draft metrics? If anything, that’s exactly the kind of player they’ve drafted 3 years running.

I listed potential lead ball handlers who fit Weltmans type. Reed is not a potential lead ball handler but he is certainly Weltmans guy and propably higher on his big board than many of the guys i listed. There are suprisingly many Weltmans type players this draft. Patrick Williams is another raw athletic forward hybrid, Tyler Bey also. In the second round there are guys like Woodard, Tillie, but i think we will target some scoring guard there if we keep the pick. ( unlikely)
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Post#454 » by KillMonger » Sun May 31, 2020 10:50 pm

Knightro wrote:I like a good bit of the talent that should be available in that 10-15 range where the Magic are slotted.

For the sake of this discussion, let's say that Ball, Edwards, Wiseman, Toppin, Hayes, Okongwu, Haliburton and Avdija are all lotto picks.

The Magic in theory will be able to come away at least with one of these guys...

Cole Anthony
Aaron Nesmith
Devin Vassell
Theo Maledon
RJ Hampton

Tyrese Maxey
Kira Lewis Jr.

All of these guys could help the team as possible rotation players long-term.

these are the guys i would key in on....really like Vassell's game reminds me of a tatum with less "shake" to his game....i really wonder about kira though.....is he a less vertically gifted DeAron Fox or is he Ish Smith with a jumper? also.......




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Post#455 » by basketballRob » Sun May 31, 2020 11:36 pm

This draft seems deep because a guy like Vernon Carey who averaged 29 pts 14 rebs per 40 mpg gets no acknowledgement at all. He could be a perfect small ball center.

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Post#456 » by VFX » Sun May 31, 2020 11:45 pm

basketballRob wrote:This draft seems deep because a guy like Vernon Carey who averaged 29 pts 14 rebs per 40 mpg gets no acknowledgement at all. He could be a perfect small ball center.

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More like most nba front offices finally wisened up to not drafting Bigs in the top of the draft unless they are generational talent.
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Post#457 » by basketballRob » Sun May 31, 2020 11:47 pm

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basketballRob wrote:This draft seems deep because a guy like Vernon Carey who averaged 29 pts 14 rebs per 40 mpg gets no acknowledgement at all. He could be a perfect small ball center.

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More like most nba front offices finally wisened up to not drafting Bigs in the top of the draft unless they are generational talent.
Wiseman may go at the top and he doesn't look nearly as good as Moussa Cisse in next years class.

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Post#458 » by a-French-Fan » Mon Jun 1, 2020 11:53 am

drsd wrote:
MagicFan101 wrote:Sure.

But when they drafted Giannis he was a guy announcers pointed to on draft nights as the freak who could change the league ... or never see a minute of playing time.

No one is talking about any of these guys with that kind of potential. That is all I’m saying. There is no such player in this class with incredible hype around them but enough flaws that they might be available.

Sure, players like Draymond Green and Gilbert Arenas go overlooked all the time and someone outplays their draft slot. That’s a different scenario.



Any scouting on Théo Maledon?

He is in the mid-teen on some backs, but I know nothing of his game.


..


If he is still available, Magic should draft him. That my opinion, and let me talk about last 3 seasons with ASVEL.

Background
France has two Big prospects born in 2001. Killian Hayes from Cholet (his father played for Cholet) and Théo Malédon from Rouen (Parker grew up in the same area). Hayes stayed home in Cholet. Cholet is not a rich club, but a real "prospects factory" (Rigaudeau, Gélabale, De Colo, Beaubois, Séraphin, Gobert). Malédon went to ASVEL, Tony's Parker Club.

2017-2018
At 16 Malédon and Hayes played in "Espoirs". This is U21 teams from professionnal clubs. Most of french professional played in this championship. Hayes became MVP by far, and Malédon was the next one. That was a great performance from so young players. Malédon also few played few minutes with ASVEL pro team.

2018-2019
Everybody is expexting Hayes' show at beginning of the season, but instead of this we had Malédon's show with ASVEL thé best french team. Unfortunately, Hayes' team was quickly too weak, and you can't tank in european championships, or you may go down to a lower championship. So bye bye Hayes'development, welcome experienced players. Meanwhile, Malédon showed Real abilities to lead his team and scoring, and thus in Jeep Elite and Eurocup. He was clearly the best 2001 propesct for all Europe. He even knew french national team, but was not ready for a World cup. For comparaison, he was more interesting than Élie Okobo, a guy who already played into NBA.

2019-2020
Hayes chose a weak Eurocup team with the aim to make stats for draft. So he became a top propesct while making si much turnovers. You can't imagine Mitrovic -ASVEL's coach- allowing Malédon doing this. Malédon has to fit in coach's system ans perferctly do it.
First week of octobre he get a violent hit on his shoulder. ASVEL chose to be very careful, injury is not that serious, but need to rest, and Tony Parker would had never accept any risk with futur France NT point guard. Late october, without Malédon, Mitrovic launched Matthew Strazel (born in 2002), who scored 9 points for his first Euroleague game. When Malédon Came back, ASVEL met a kind of rookie wall as a new Euroleague team, and Mitrovic could not send back Strazel to Espoirs. So there had 4 PGs (so Malédon, Strazel, Jordan Taylor and Antoine Diot, a real injury prone, but former Parker substitue with France, a good Euroleague players when healrhy). Late february, early marche, record is not getting better for ASVEL, but there is some tough games versus great teams like Barcelona, and Malédon was on the good path before lockdown.

But people expected a lot from him, and didn't pay attention to circumstances, or to the fact that Euroleague is really a higher level than Eurocup. So he went down in mock draft this year. Considering circumstances and the fact Parker says that he does really fit more with NBA than Euroleague, I think he should still be a top 15 or even a top 10 pick. Hype was not on him that year, that's it. But I Hope that GM's and scouts do their job as well as possible, and that he won't be available for Magic.
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Post#459 » by basketballRob » Mon Jun 1, 2020 5:41 pm

a-French-Fan wrote:
drsd wrote:
MagicFan101 wrote:Sure.

But when they drafted Giannis he was a guy announcers pointed to on draft nights as the freak who could change the league ... or never see a minute of playing time.

No one is talking about any of these guys with that kind of potential. That is all I’m saying. There is no such player in this class with incredible hype around them but enough flaws that they might be available.

Sure, players like Draymond Green and Gilbert Arenas go overlooked all the time and someone outplays their draft slot. That’s a different scenario.



Any scouting on Théo Maledon?

He is in the mid-teen on some backs, but I know nothing of his game.


..


If he is still available, Magic should draft him. That my opinion, and let me talk about last 3 seasons with ASVEL.

Background
France has two Big prospects born in 2001. Killian Hayes from Cholet (his father played for Cholet) and Théo Malédon from Rouen (Parker grew up in the same area). Hayes stayed home in Cholet. Cholet is not a rich club, but a real "prospects factory" (Rigaudeau, Gélabale, De Colo, Beaubois, Séraphin, Gobert). Malédon went to ASVEL, Tony's Parker Club.

2017-2018
At 16 Malédon and Hayes played in "Espoirs". This is U21 teams from professionnal clubs. Most of french professional played in this championship. Hayes became MVP by far, and Malédon was the next one. That was a great performance from so young players. Malédon also few played few minutes with ASVEL pro team.

2018-2019
Everybody is expexting Hayes' show at beginning of the season, but instead of this we had Malédon's show with ASVEL thé best french team. Unfortunately, Hayes' team was quickly too weak, and you can't tank in european championships, or you may go down to a lower championship. So bye bye Hayes'development, welcome experienced players. Meanwhile, Malédon showed Real abilities to lead his team and scoring, and thus in Jeep Elite and Eurocup. He was clearly the best 2001 propesct for all Europe. He even knew french national team, but was not ready for a World cup. For comparaison, he was more interesting than Élie Okobo, a guy who already played into NBA.

2019-2020
Hayes chose a weak Eurocup team with the aim to make stats for draft. So he became a top propesct while making si much turnovers. You can't imagine Mitrovic -ASVEL's coach- allowing Malédon doing this. Malédon has to fit in coach's system ans perferctly do it.
First week of octobre he get a violent hit on his shoulder. ASVEL chose to be very careful, injury is not that serious, but need to rest, and Tony Parker would had never accept any risk with futur France NT point guard. Late october, without Malédon, Mitrovic launched Matthew Strazel (born in 2002), who scored 9 points for his first Euroleague game. When Malédon Came back, ASVEL met a kind of rookie wall as a new Euroleague team, and Mitrovic could not send back Strazel to Espoirs. So there had 4 PGs (so Malédon, Strazel, Jordan Taylor and Antoine Diot, a real injury prone, but former Parker substitue with France, a good Euroleague players when healrhy). Late february, early marche, record is not getting better for ASVEL, but there is some tough games versus great teams like Barcelona, and Malédon was on the good path before lockdown.

But people expected a lot from him, and didn't pay attention to circumstances, or to the fact that Euroleague is really a higher level than Eurocup. So he went down in mock draft this year. Considering circumstances and the fact Parker says that he does really fit more with NBA than Euroleague, I think he should still be a top 15 or even a top 10 pick. Hype was not on him that year, that's it. But I Hope that GM's and scouts do their job as well as possible, and that he won't be available for Magic.
Thanks. Now that you brought up Tony Parker, i can see a resemblance in their games. Plus the both wore number 9.

Now I'm torn between Maledon and Lewis. Maledon is 18 and they could do a draft and stash for a year.

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Post#460 » by a-French-Fan » Mon Jun 1, 2020 7:31 pm

basketballRob wrote:
a-French-Fan wrote:
drsd wrote:

Any scouting on Théo Maledon?

He is in the mid-teen on some backs, but I know nothing of his game.


..


If he is still available, Magic should draft him. That my opinion, and let me talk about last 3 seasons with ASVEL.

Background
France has two Big prospects born in 2001. Killian Hayes from Cholet (his father played for Cholet) and Théo Malédon from Rouen (Parker grew up in the same area). Hayes stayed home in Cholet. Cholet is not a rich club, but a real "prospects factory" (Rigaudeau, Gélabale, De Colo, Beaubois, Séraphin, Gobert). Malédon went to ASVEL, Tony's Parker Club.

2017-2018
At 16 Malédon and Hayes played in "Espoirs". This is U21 teams from professionnal clubs. Most of french professional played in this championship. Hayes became MVP by far, and Malédon was the next one. That was a great performance from so young players. Malédon also few played few minutes with ASVEL pro team.

2018-2019
Everybody is expexting Hayes' show at beginning of the season, but instead of this we had Malédon's show with ASVEL thé best french team. Unfortunately, Hayes' team was quickly too weak, and you can't tank in european championships, or you may go down to a lower championship. So bye bye Hayes'development, welcome experienced players. Meanwhile, Malédon showed Real abilities to lead his team and scoring, and thus in Jeep Elite and Eurocup. He was clearly the best 2001 propesct for all Europe. He even knew french national team, but was not ready for a World cup. For comparaison, he was more interesting than Élie Okobo, a guy who already played into NBA.

2019-2020
Hayes chose a weak Eurocup team with the aim to make stats for draft. So he became a top propesct while making si much turnovers. You can't imagine Mitrovic -ASVEL's coach- allowing Malédon doing this. Malédon has to fit in coach's system ans perferctly do it.
First week of octobre he get a violent hit on his shoulder. ASVEL chose to be very careful, injury is not that serious, but need to rest, and Tony Parker would had never accept any risk with futur France NT point guard. Late october, without Malédon, Mitrovic launched Matthew Strazel (born in 2002), who scored 9 points for his first Euroleague game. When Malédon Came back, ASVEL met a kind of rookie wall as a new Euroleague team, and Mitrovic could not send back Strazel to Espoirs. So there had 4 PGs (so Malédon, Strazel, Jordan Taylor and Antoine Diot, a real injury prone, but former Parker substitue with France, a good Euroleague players when healrhy). Late february, early marche, record is not getting better for ASVEL, but there is some tough games versus great teams like Barcelona, and Malédon was on the good path before lockdown.

But people expected a lot from him, and didn't pay attention to circumstances, or to the fact that Euroleague is really a higher level than Eurocup. So he went down in mock draft this year. Considering circumstances and the fact Parker says that he does really fit more with NBA than Euroleague, I think he should still be a top 15 or even a top 10 pick. Hype was not on him that year, that's it. But I Hope that GM's and scouts do their job as well as possible, and that he won't be available for Magic.
Thanks. Now that you brought up Tony Parker, i can see a resemblance in their games. Plus the both wore number 9.

Now I'm torn between Maledon and Lewis. Maledon is 18 and they could do a draft and stash for a year with him.

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Malédon wears number 6 Actually.

You are torn between Lewis and Malédon, maybe Lewis potential is higher, maybe not. Firstly, it is always hard to make comparaisons between college players and Euroleague players.
Secondly, for NCAA players, without march madness, it is really hard to make an Idea on their level.
So I would take Malédon because he has been already pro for two years, an has already dealt with pressure.
LA 2028 (Starters):
Francisco - Strazel - Malédon - Traoré ?
Coulibaly - Fournier
Risacher - Cordinier
Yabusele- Hoard - Essengue/Penda?
Wembanyama - Lessort - Raynaud / Beringer /Sarr?

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