Official Speculation Thread '19-'20 V: Purgatory

[SOUL]

https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/258073/2005-Magic-Lottery-Pick-Fran-Vazquez-Retires-At-37-After-Playing-Entire-Career-In-Spain

[Skybox]

All the buzz lately indicates that the season will continue in some form, at some time...any word on Isaac’s condition? Aminu?

[drsd]

All the buzz lately indicates that the season will continue in some form, at some time...any word on Isaac’s condition? Aminu?

Knee looks ok in this image:

[drsd]

Here is the NBA.com story on Isaac:
NBA link: Jonathan Isaac Participates in Online Q&A With Magic Season Ticket Holders

[drsd]

Which is why there is no chance a team gives up someone like Beal to sign Dipo to a max.

But would Orlando take a chance and overpay on a risky player to pair him with our young guys?

I personally would prefer the Magic resign Fournier over an option of signing Oladipo.


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[EAS Law]

Which is why there is no chance a team gives up someone like Beal to sign Dipo to a max.

But would Orlando take a chance and overpay on a risky player to pair him with our young guys?

I personally would prefer the Magic resign Fournier over an option of signing Oladipo.


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Bro what?

FWIW I don’t think VO was ever happy in Orlando. He wouldn’t come here. I don’t feel like he was ever really part of Orlando at all.

[MagicFan101]

Which is why there is no chance a team gives up someone like Beal to sign Dipo to a max.

But would Orlando take a chance and overpay on a risky player to pair him with our young guys?

I personally would prefer the Magic resign Fournier over an option of signing Oladipo.


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I know first hand that people have received 3-day bans for posting far less offensive **** than this man.

[pepe1991]

Which is why there is no chance a team gives up someone like Beal to sign Dipo to a max.

But would Orlando take a chance and overpay on a risky player to pair him with our young guys?

I personally would prefer the Magic resign Fournier over an option of signing Oladipo.


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Bro what?

FWIW I don’t think VO was ever happy in Orlando. He wouldn’t come here. I don’t feel like he was ever really part of Orlando at all.

That's the whole thing.
He will :
a) command max
b) has history of injuries

and probably most important : c) never was really happy here, was not offered extension he was seeking and was shipped out of city to open cap space for Byombo . Would you return? There is also no connection between him and Weltman nor Hammond.
Not to mention Pacers have established young center who is allstar, trading chip in Turner, well established rotation players like Brogdon, Warren, good coach...
Imo Dipo- Buddy Hield swap sounds like solid idea

[MagicFan101]

I personally would prefer the Magic resign Fournier over an option of signing Oladipo.


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Bro what?

FWIW I don’t think VO was ever happy in Orlando. He wouldn’t come here. I don’t feel like he was ever really part of Orlando at all.

That's the whole thing.
He will :
a) command max
b) has history of injuries

and probably most important : c) never was really happy here, was not offered extension he was seeking and was shipped out of city to open cap space for Byombo . Would you return? There is also no connection between him and Weltman nor Hammond.
Not to mention Pacers have established young center who is allstar, trading chip in Turner, well established rotation players like Brogdon, Warren, good coach...
Imo Dipo- Buddy Hield swap sounds like solid idea

— but he’s not Evan. ‘nuff said

[j-ragg]

I wish we built around Oladipo a little more instead of putting him at pg so we could keep Arron Afflalo on the court lol. Maybe not built around him, but at least started by playing him in the right position.

I liked Elfrid in a vacuum but it seems when we had the pg-who-couldn’t-shoot then the bigs who were only there to space the floor because we had such bad shooting... seemed like ever since we’ve been recovering from being the most backwards thinking team in the league.

[Skybox]

All the buzz lately indicates that the season will continue in some form, at some time...any word on Isaac’s condition? Aminu?

Knee looks ok in this image:

Scooped me...I just hung up with a guy who said he lives in JI's building downtown and only update was he got engaged on the roof. Good for him! He seems like the marrying kind.

[RookieStar]

All the buzz lately indicates that the season will continue in some form, at some time...any word on Isaac’s condition? Aminu?

Knee looks ok in this image:

*man look at the size of his shoes!*

*Also.. wasn't it his ankle that was the problem and not his knees?*

* This dude is breaking quarantine! What a role-model*

Anyone wants to add?

[pepe1991]

Bro what?

FWIW I don’t think VO was ever happy in Orlando. He wouldn’t come here. I don’t feel like he was ever really part of Orlando at all.

That's the whole thing.
He will :
a) command max
b) has history of injuries

and probably most important : c) never was really happy here, was not offered extension he was seeking and was shipped out of city to open cap space for Byombo . Would you return? There is also no connection between him and Weltman nor Hammond.
Not to mention Pacers have established young center who is allstar, trading chip in Turner, well established rotation players like Brogdon, Warren, good coach...
Imo Dipo- Buddy Hield swap sounds like solid idea

— but he’s not Evan. ‘nuff said

Everything Magic did with Oladipo was schizophrenia - lite behavior.
MIracle happend and he is aveliable after Cavs fu*ery , than you put complete crap around him , they pull him from SG to PG just to squeeze Harkless, Harris and AA in same starting 5.
Next year, after Oladipo mighty struggle to shoot from outside or shoot in general, he is paired with worst shooter of his draft class, who started at PG. To add insult to injury, Magic draft Gordon , who made like 10 threes in his college career.
Over next few seasons Magic have the worst shooting starting 5 in basketball and everything goes to hell.

Once extensions are aveliable, Magic are no longer willing to pay him because they already have their mind set on 1991 Bad Boy Pistons style of basketball with Biyombo, Gordon, Payton and Ibaka, so they pull a trigger on a Ibaka rental.

Oladipo would be collosal fool to return to organisation who did everything in their power to sabotage his growth at every stage after a draft night.
It would be like returning to a wife who tried to poisen you because she at least cooks.

[MagicFan101]

That's the whole thing.
He will :
a) command max
b) has history of injuries

and probably most important : c) never was really happy here, was not offered extension he was seeking and was shipped out of city to open cap space for Byombo . Would you return? There is also no connection between him and Weltman nor Hammond.
Not to mention Pacers have established young center who is allstar, trading chip in Turner, well established rotation players like Brogdon, Warren, good coach...
Imo Dipo- Buddy Hield swap sounds like solid idea

— but he’s not Evan. ‘nuff said

Everything Magic did with Oladipo was schizophrenia - lite behavior.
MIracle happend and he is aveliable after Cavs fu*ery , than you put complete crap around him , they pull him from SG to PG just to squeeze Harkless, Harris and AA in same starting 5.
Next year, after Oladipo mighty struggle to shoot from outside or shoot in general, he is paired with worst shooter of his draft class, who started at PG. To add insult to injury, Magic draft Gordon , who made like 10 threes in his college career.
Over next few seasons Magic have the worst shooting starting 5 in basketball and everything goes to hell.

Once extensions are aveliable, Magic are no longer willing to pay him because they already have their mind set on 1991 Bad Boy Pistons style of basketball with Biyombo, Gordon, Payton and Ibaka, so they pull a trigger on a Ibaka rental.

Oladipo would be collosal fool to return to organisation who did everything in their power to sabotage his growth at every stage after a draft night.
It would be like returning to a wife who tried to poisen you because she at least cooks.

We’re playing the “I’m bored out of my mind, let’s talk about crazy hypothetical scenarios” game. No unbiased fan expects Dipo or any other star to outright sign in Orlando in free agency.

If we want a star it will come through the draft or a trade. Free agents aren’t coming here until we get one.

My original question was simply whether or not Orlando wanted Dipo back under the condition of a guaranteed long term max contract ... the same one it appears Indy is hesitant to offer.

[EAS Law]

— but he’s not Evan. ‘nuff said

Everything Magic did with Oladipo was schizophrenia - lite behavior.
MIracle happend and he is aveliable after Cavs fu*ery , than you put complete crap around him , they pull him from SG to PG just to squeeze Harkless, Harris and AA in same starting 5.
Next year, after Oladipo mighty struggle to shoot from outside or shoot in general, he is paired with worst shooter of his draft class, who started at PG. To add insult to injury, Magic draft Gordon , who made like 10 threes in his college career.
Over next few seasons Magic have the worst shooting starting 5 in basketball and everything goes to hell.

Once extensions are aveliable, Magic are no longer willing to pay him because they already have their mind set on 1991 Bad Boy Pistons style of basketball with Biyombo, Gordon, Payton and Ibaka, so they pull a trigger on a Ibaka rental.

Oladipo would be collosal fool to return to organisation who did everything in their power to sabotage his growth at every stage after a draft night.
It would be like returning to a wife who tried to poisen you because she at least cooks.

We’re playing the “I’m bored out of my mind, let’s talk about crazy hypothetical scenarios” game. No unbiased fan expects Dipo or any other star to outright sign in Orlando in free agency.

If we want a star it will come through the draft or a trade. Free agents aren’t coming here until we get one.

My original question was simply whether or not Orlando wanted Dipo back under the condition of a guaranteed long term max contract ... the same one it appears Indy is hesitant to offer.

I want to say “of course”, but we all know what injuries do to players that rely so much on athleticism.

[pepe1991]

— but he’s not Evan. ‘nuff said

Everything Magic did with Oladipo was schizophrenia - lite behavior.
MIracle happend and he is aveliable after Cavs fu*ery , than you put complete crap around him , they pull him from SG to PG just to squeeze Harkless, Harris and AA in same starting 5.
Next year, after Oladipo mighty struggle to shoot from outside or shoot in general, he is paired with worst shooter of his draft class, who started at PG. To add insult to injury, Magic draft Gordon , who made like 10 threes in his college career.
Over next few seasons Magic have the worst shooting starting 5 in basketball and everything goes to hell.

Once extensions are aveliable, Magic are no longer willing to pay him because they already have their mind set on 1991 Bad Boy Pistons style of basketball with Biyombo, Gordon, Payton and Ibaka, so they pull a trigger on a Ibaka rental.

Oladipo would be collosal fool to return to organisation who did everything in their power to sabotage his growth at every stage after a draft night.
It would be like returning to a wife who tried to poisen you because she at least cooks.

We’re playing the “I’m bored out of my mind, let’s talk about crazy hypothetical scenarios” game. No unbiased fan expects Dipo or any other star to outright sign in Orlando in free agency.

If we want a star it will come through the draft or a trade. Free agents aren’t coming here until we get one.

My original question was simply whether or not Orlando wanted Dipo back under the condition of a guaranteed long term max contract ... the same one it appears Indy is hesitant to offer.

28 years old who had 1 legit great season in his career, while being 6'3 athletic guard who isn't elite shooter and last 2 years is injury prone.. It's not hard to answer to that question.

[drsd]

That's the whole thing.
He will :
a) command max
b) has history of injuries

and probably most important : c) never was really happy here, was not offered extension he was seeking and was shipped out of city to open cap space for Byombo . Would you return? There is also no connection between him and Weltman nor Hammond.
Not to mention Pacers have established young center who is allstar, trading chip in Turner, well established rotation players like Brogdon, Warren, good coach...
Imo Dipo- Buddy Hield swap sounds like solid idea

And-1

But my actual point is not that I want Orlando to resign Fournier, but rather that I would want him resigned over signing Oladipo; for all the reasons you state above.

Frankly I would rather Orlando trades its FRP, its 2022 FRP, the rights to Okeke and a Fournier-SnT for Washington's Beal. Something like that. But I am a big-NO to Oladipo returning to Orlando.


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[drsd]

* This dude is breaking quarantine! What a role-model*

Anyone wants to add?

Not if they already live together. But that would go against his beliefs, so to say. So: there is probably a Christian-rules story in that as well as a legal issue.


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[drsd]

*Also.. wasn't it his ankle that was the problem and not his knees?*

Knee:

Watch on YouTube

[drsd]

28 years old who had 1 legit great season in his career, while being 6'3 athletic guard who isn't elite shooter and last 2 years is injury prone.. It's not hard to answer to that question.

To be fair to his measurements, Oladipo is 6'3" because he has the league record in "short neck". His ground-to-shoulder height is good for a SG and his wing span is also good. So his release height is fine on jumpers.


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