Official Summer 2024 Magic Free Agency and Trade Ideas Thread 6.0

[Driguez]

The only thing I want this year for the off season is one of two things.

1. Get Paul George
Or
2. Just upgrade our bench

I say getting starting level PG and a replacement for Harris would be a good start. There are glaring holes on our team besides getting more forwards.

[tiderulz]

well what ever it would take to get middleton...i would triple it to get bridges from nets..at least with him you would think 2nd contract and he cost 10 mill less now ,no player option ,younger and better..and misses like no games on top of it all

Milwaukee isnt rebuilding with a prime Giannis and soon to be 34 yr old Lillard. The only way they trade Middleton is for another win now piece.

agree,not looking for middleton want bridges

Brooklyn isnt trading Bridges

[OrlandoMagic]

The only thing I want this year for the off season is one of two things.

1. Get Paul George
Or
2. Just upgrade our bench

I say getting starting level PG and a replacement for Harris would be a good start. There are glaring holes on our team besides getting more forwards.

Honestly I would love for us to try a lineup of Suggs and Franz at the guard positions

[three3d]

The only thing I want this year for the off season is one of two things.

1. Get Paul George
Or
2. Just upgrade our bench

I say getting starting level PG and a replacement for Harris would be a good start. There are glaring holes on our team besides getting more forwards.

Honestly I would love for us to try a lineup of Suggs and Franz at the guard positions

Not sure if Franz has the speed to play at the guard position with his current game. He’d need to seriously retool and add a pull up jumper to has game to be able to drive to the rim. That’s honestly something I’d like to see him work on this summer, being able to use his driving ability to creat an opportunity for a pull up off the glass jumper. Right now you can play him defensively as just a driver and still he’s pretty damn good and effective doing that. But you counter that driving ability with the ability to stop on a dime and pull the trigger, now you’re keeping the defense honest.

[orlando_joe]

Milwaukee isnt rebuilding with a prime Giannis and soon to be 34 yr old Lillard. The only way they trade Middleton is for another win now piece.

agree,not looking for middleton want bridges

Brooklyn isnt trading Bridges

maybe not next week,what about trade deadline? next summer?

[tiderulz]

agree,not looking for middleton want bridges

Brooklyn isnt trading Bridges

maybe not next week,what about trade deadline? next summer?

sure, they will trade a player in his prime on a good deal. who are you sending back, Suggs Wagner or Paolo?

[tiderulz]

The only thing I want this year for the off season is one of two things.

1. Get Paul George
Or
2. Just upgrade our bench

I say getting starting level PG and a replacement for Harris would be a good start. There are glaring holes on our team besides getting more forwards.

Honestly I would love for us to try a lineup of Suggs and Franz at the guard positions

Franz isnt a SG, why dont people get this?

[orlando_joe]

Brooklyn isnt trading Bridges

maybe not next week,what about trade deadline? next summer?

sure, they will trade a player in his prime on a good deal. who are you sending back, Suggs Wagner or Paolo?

why are any good players traded? they are rebuilding or player will be fa and walk for nothing...next summer he will only have yr left

[tiderulz]

maybe not next week,what about trade deadline? next summer?

sure, they will trade a player in his prime on a good deal. who are you sending back, Suggs Wagner or Paolo?

why are any good players traded? they are rebuilding or player will be fa and walk for nothing...next summer he will only have yr left

a team isnt just gifting a very good player in his prime to Orlando for trash. You want Bridges, they will want one of our young players. if we dont, some other team will.

[Magic_Johnny12]

Melton is 6'1, not really- PG- not really-SG, career 9 ppg, 2,7 apg , 53% TS player.

He is PERFECT guy . For Nuggets. To be like 8th best guy and come off bench.
He does apsolutley nothing for Orlando other than adds to a list of limited, one dimensional role playing guards who shouldn't be starting.

Where does fascination with him comes from? I literally forgot that guy is still in nba. Thought 76ers just vaiwed him and that was it.

I do not think anyone is "fascinated" by Melton per say, but we are realists when it comes to the players our organization usually gravitates to. The organization is very risk adverse wether we like to believe it or not and they will continue tread on the more cautious side.

Melton averaged 12/4/3 as a starter last season with a usage rate similar to Jaden Springer. He is essentially what a majority of fans wanted out of Fultz. A secondary ball handler that isn't an offensive nor defensive liability.

I'm somewhat an analytics junkie and I am sure the Magic are as well. Melton was 1 of 3 shooting guards in the entire league that ranked a positive score in both O-LEBRON and D-LEBRON.

He's 25 and more importantly, he's obtainable for mere cap space.

Comparatively and statistically, he is a more *balanced player than players like Sexton, Huerter, Monk, Herro, Simons.

It really comes down to what the organization ultimately values and deems absolutely necessary coming into the season.

However, I am willing to bet they would prefer to sign Melton to a bloated 1+1 deal to start than to spend the assets necessary to get players like Sexton, Herro, Simons that all carry defensive limitations and that are not players that will solely push Orlando into contention.

I am not saying this is the right mindset just how I personally feel the organization operates.

[cedric76]

Melton is 6'1, not really- PG- not really-SG, career 9 ppg, 2,7 apg , 53% TS player.

He is PERFECT guy . For Nuggets. To be like 8th best guy and come off bench.
He does apsolutley nothing for Orlando other than adds to a list of limited, one dimensional role playing guards who shouldn't be starting.

Where does fascination with him comes from? I literally forgot that guy is still in nba. Thought 76ers just vaiwed him and that was it.

I do not think anyone is "fasciated" by Melton per say, but we are realists when it comes to the players our organization usually gravitates to. The organization is very risk adverse wether we like to believe it or not and they will continue tread on the more cautious side.

Melton averaged 12/4/3 as a starter last season with a usage rate similar to Jaden Springer. He is essentially what a majority of fans wanted out of Fultz. A secondary ball handler that isn't an offensive nor defensive liability.

I'm somewhat an analytics junkie and I am sure the Magic are as well. Melton was 1 of 3 shooting guards in the entire league that ranked a positive score in both O-LEBRON and D-LEBRON.

He's 25 and more importantly, he's obtainable for mere cap space.

Comparatively and statistically, he is a more *balanced player than players like Sexton, Huerter, Monk, Herro, Simons.

It really comes down to what the organization ultimately values and deems absolutely necessary coming into the season.

However, I am willing to bet they would prefer to sign Melton to a bloated 1+1 deal to start than to spend the assets necessary to get players like Sexton, Herro, Simons that all carry defensive limitations and that are not players that will solely push Orlando into contention.

I am not saying this is the right mindset just how I personally feel the organization operates.

Melton would be a great addition to this team, very good defensive players, he shares the magic s values

[meatwad4343]

Lonzo ball will probably get bought out now that the bulls have giddey. Take a flier on him for a year, he is that table setting player Paulo wants and can hit the three. There's not really anyone else in this class I'm crazy about that I'd commit money to

[three3d]

Lonzo ball will probably get bought out now that the bulls have giddey. Take a flier on him for a year, he is that table setting player Paulo wants and can hit the three. There's not really anyone else in this class I'm crazy about that I'd commit money to

Staying far far far away from anything to do with Big Baller Brand . We seriously don’t need that distraction over this teams head. Besides his injuries don’t want anything at all to do with his dad. Kinda sad his dad put so much heat on him, probably held him back some.

[jonbob17]

The only thing I want this year for the off season is one of two things.

1. Get Paul George
Or
2. Just upgrade our bench

I say getting starting level PG and a replacement for Harris would be a good start. There are glaring holes on our team besides getting more forwards.

Honestly I would love for us to try a lineup of Suggs and Franz at the guard positions

Wasn’t this kind of where we were at in the playoffs? Cleveland would take Paolo out of the equation for spans of the game and the half court offense totally shriveled.

It’s probably not a bad idea during the season for rotations, but in the playoffs when the game slows down it’s just not good enough.

[Blue_and_Whte]

Lonzo ball will probably get bought out now that the bulls have giddey. Take a flier on him for a year, he is that table setting player Paulo wants and can hit the three. There's not really anyone else in this class I'm crazy about that I'd commit money to

Staying far far far away from anything to do with Big Baller Brand . We seriously don’t need that distraction over this teams head. Besides his injuries don’t want anything at all to do with his dad. Kinda sad his dad put so much heat on him, probably held him back some.

We have too many white players for that racist POS.

[jonbob17]

Lonzo ball will probably get bought out now that the bulls have giddey. Take a flier on him for a year, he is that table setting player Paulo wants and can hit the three. There's not really anyone else in this class I'm crazy about that I'd commit money to

2021 Ball would be the perfect guard to stir this offense. Unfortunately it seems like that guy is gone. We’ll see what the Bulls do after the Caruso trade, but i would think they would hope Lavine and Ball could show something and move them at the deadline….but who knows, they may re-sign Derozan and chase the 10th seed again.

It would probably be a bad sign for Ball’s future if the Bulls do release him, but I don’t hate the idea of a 1+1 deal for the 14th guy on the roster with zero expectations….you know just in case

[Magic_Johnny12]

Lonzo ball will probably get bought out now that the bulls have giddey. Take a flier on him for a year, he is that table setting player Paulo wants and can hit the three. There's not really anyone else in this class I'm crazy about that I'd commit money to

Less reclamation projects, more reliable and dependable players PLEASE

[three3d]

We could debate who had a better career Lonzo or Fultz.. I’m rolling with Kelz on this lol

[Skybox]

I'm excited for the FO to spend, trade, draft and aggressively improve.

But...I wonder if a smart way to work this summer would be to dedicate at least a certain amount of the significant cap space we have towards aggressively paying down future financial burdens...for example, addressing Isaac's possible extension and Mo Wagner's expiring deal. I still don't know exactly how it was worked out, but IND did something with Myles Turner that (I think) involved a massive one year renegotiation and overpay followed by a reduced amount per year for the duration of the deal. We must spend a certain amount of salary this year, so AFTER WE MAKE AT LEAST ONE meaningful backcourt upgrade, perhaps the FO could do some internal financial restructuring to "pre-pay" whatever is possible with steep descending deals to take advantage of all of the bills presently in our wallet that we know will not be around for long - due to the massive extensions coming soon for our Big 3.

Isaac will be a UFA next summer - we don't want him going out into the market without some degree of control...even if we look at trading him. I think Mo is overpaid at $8m, but a restructuring of his deal should appeal to him if it involves more years and more overall guaranteed money and security. Ingles is another guy I certainly like having around, but the TO for $11m just doesn't make sense for where the team is and what could, conceivably done this summer to take another step forward.

[Bensational]

It’s more turnover than I’d expect, but I’ve settled in on being quite happy if we could pull off the following moves:

TRADE: Cole + #18 for Brogdon + future lottery protected FRP

SIGN: Klay + Goga

SIGN & TRADE: WCJ for Hartenstein

Hartenstein/MoeW/Goga
Paolo/Isaac
Franz/Black/Ingles
Klay/Houstan/Jett
Suggs/Brogdon

That would be some quality upgrades and preserve flexibility into next offseason in case a too good to miss opportunity arises.