2024-2025 Regular Season Game 58: Memphis Grizzlies (36-19) at Orlando Magic (28-29) - 7pm

[VFX]

Mosley will get fired long before the Magic do anything with Paolo, but I also don't think Mosley's doing anything from a scheme perspective that the front office doesn't actively want him to be doing.

The organization WANTS to force feed Paolo and Franz all these isolations and switches onto smaller guys because they think it will benefit them both and ultimately the franchise as a whole the most in the long run.

Its crazy to read this post, and your previous post, and I couldn't agree more.

We argued after game 6 or 7 about how ineffective the dual responsibility of running an offense with these two just wont work in the long run. I still hold that belief.

From a "scheme perspective" there isn't much that Mosely can do himself. But I CAN tell you that what they are doing right now is absolutely not the answer. It IS bad basketball and the more L's pile up maybe they'll realize that.

I turned this game on in the 3rd, because thats how little I desire to watch terrible basketball, and it absolutely didn't disappoint.

I don't need to watch 2 seasons of ungodly terrible offense being run to start drawing some conclusions as to why it sucks.

[Knightro]

Down 1 with less than 30 seconds left and Franz AND Paolo decide to take 3’s. Paolo is shooting 29.7% from 3 and Franz is shooting 31.2% from 3 this season. Just dumb. We’re going nowhere with that level of shooting.

The Franz attempt would have been totally fine IMO if had he just shot it.

There's no easier 3PT shot in the sport than the corner three. Bane botched the coverage badly and Franz was WIDE OPEN and just inexplicably tried to pump fake and side step which actually brought Bane's contest back into the play.

Paolo's attempt was really bad though.

[Knightro]

Its crazy to read this post and your previous post and I couldn't agree more.

We argued after game 6 or 7 about how ineffective the dual responsibility of running an offense with those two just wont work in the long run. I still hold that belief.

From a "scheme perspective" there isn't much that Mosely can do. But I CAN tell you that what they are doing right now is absolutely not the answer. It IS bad basketball and the more L's pile up maybe they'll realize that.

I turned this game on in the 3rd, because thats how little I desire to watch terrible basketball, and it absolutely didn't disappoint.

It's why I don't really get too caught up in the lack of a timeout at the end of the game.

If they call a timeout, what are they drawing up anyway? A 4th failed attempt in the final 4 minutes to get Morant switched onto Paolo?

It would have been an isolation situation against a set defense.

[VFX]

Its crazy to read this post and your previous post and I couldn't agree more.

We argued after game 6 or 7 about how ineffective the dual responsibility of running an offense with those two just wont work in the long run. I still hold that belief.

From a "scheme perspective" there isn't much that Mosely can do. But I CAN tell you that what they are doing right now is absolutely not the answer. It IS bad basketball and the more L's pile up maybe they'll realize that.

I turned this game on in the 3rd, because thats how little I desire to watch terrible basketball, and it absolutely didn't disappoint.

It's why I don't really get too caught up in the lack of a timeout at the end of the game.

If they call a timeout, what are they drawing up anyway? A 4th failed attempt in the final 4 minutes to get Morant switched onto Paolo?

It would have been an isolation situation against a set defense.

Well yes..

Because they have absolutely nothing else and Mosely doesn't actually "run" anything when they aren't coming out of a timeout regardless.

Iso Paolo or Franz and kick out on a collapsing defense. Thats the offense 100% of the time against a set defense when the ball isn't coming off the glass. Not sure how much more transparent it could possibly get.

[Knightro]

The fact that Paolo *right now* (not saying he will be this way forever) seems completely and utterly incapable and unequipped to be both a No. 1 scoring option and the best player on a team with any real playoff aspirations is the biggest problem this organization faces by a mile.

Like it's not even close.

Any criticism about Mosley or the shooting or anything else absolutely pales in comparison to the fact that since returning from his injury, Paolo has legitimately been the worst high usage player in the entire NBA. That's not an exaggeration whatsoever either.

[Knightro]

In 19 games since returning from injury, Paolo has a 33.7 USG% with a 48.6% true shooting percentage.

It is IMPOSSIBLE to have a good offense when you're giving that many possessions to a player that inefficient.

[eyriq]

Well, I still think we are back to being a good team

[Knightro]

Well, I still think we are back to being a good team

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[Husky1]

Franz shot is broken, it’s just bad as last year and Paolo flat out can’t shoot. There lies our problem, both for now and in the future.

[thelead]

20-15 with Suggs. 8-15 without Suggs.

Noisy numbers due to all the other injuries but it’s fair to say we have not looked good without him. 12 less wins with the same number of losses is pretty crazy.

[Knightro]

Franz shot is broken, it’s just bad as last year and Paolo flat out can’t shoot. There lies our problem, both for now and in the future.

It's a problem for both of them, but it's a much bigger problem for one of them compared to the other.

[thelead]

Scoot Henderson is WAY more efficient than Paolo this season. Absolutely crazy.

[otownflava21]

I was at the game. We lost the game because of these 3 reasons…

1. way too many players with 2+ missed FTs. We wind up losing by just 1 point. Game changer there.

2. Refs. Soooo inconsistent and too many technicals. Just absolutely atrocious control of the game.

3. Mosely and not calling a time out. Idk how many times this guy is going to make the same mistake. It’s his biggest weakness. He’s a great coach, but he’s notorious for this mistake so many times. These games matter now, it’s not about learning anymore. Plus, we aren’t a good offensive team. If we were, then maybe I’d have more confidence letting them just wing it. And don’t say it’s because the strategy is to prevent the other team from setting up their defense because it’s not like we had the advantage of a fast break or that possession anyways, there defense was already set because Paolo was just walking up with the dribble. The team doesn’t have a darn true point guard. We need to run a play and call time out!!!

[KillMonger]

Mosley will get fired long before the Magic do anything with Paolo, but I also don't think Mosley's doing anything from a scheme perspective that the front office doesn't actively want him to be doing.

The organization WANTS to force feed Paolo and Franz all these isolations and switches onto smaller guys because they think it will benefit them both and ultimately the franchise as a whole the most in the long run.

i have the same belief, however there are better ways to do things....i honestly feel like paolo and franz are doing the best they can with what is around them, i mean to a certain extent they can only control so much....i feel the front office has done the most damage here if anything...continually kicking the can down the road, extending mediocre players instead of getting value for them....all leading up to the situation where we're in now where the front office more or less have one off-season to upgrade or reshape the team because after this year it gets a lot harder to team build with minimal capspace and two players on big deals in franz and jalen i believe next season we're going to be a second apron team....As far as Paolo and franz are concerned we go as far as they're going to take us....paolo still has a ways to go obviously and so does franz but less so than paolo as he is a year ahead....still a few years from their prime years so they can still grow tremendously....but weltman has to do his part

One last thing is coach mosely is a good coach but for the first time i'm wondering is he really the guy for that next step we need to take? a poster i don't remember who said it but they said mosely might be the coach we bring in to develop the guys and get us competing again but we need different coach for contention.....i don't quite think i'm at that frame of mind just yet but i am starting to thinking about it

[RichCollab]

Hoping we see Suggs again this season.

[thelead]

I just don’t see how Paolo is going to get to a ~60% TS% with his poor shot selection. He’s an okay shooter, I think, when he’s wide open and gets a good pass but guys that lead their teams to deep playoff runs make tough shots consistently. He should be able to get back to 55% at some point but even that is not good enough.

[SloNick Russia]

Paolo is a big dude who plays small, this is a lost season for him, no progress at all
I was high on him, but have to take the reality, he is waaay overated as a player as of now
Franz has a fine season but 3pt shooting kills his ceiling. And there is no way Paolo lets him be a first option as he probably should. I hate how they coexist at the moment, just don't see any connection.


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[Knightro]

I just don’t see how Paolo is going to get to a ~60% TS% with his poor shot selection. He’s an okay shooter, I think, when he’s wide open and gets a good pass but guys that lead their teams to deep playoff runs make tough shots consistently. He should be able to get back to 55% at some point but even that is not good enough.

Franz can't consistently make threes either, but Franz at least has answers elsewhere.

Franz has become a higher volume FT shooter now, and makes 85%. Paolo makes 65% of his FTs.

Franz is relentless about going to the basket, with over 56% of his attempts coming from 10 feet or closer. Franz makes over 70% at rim and 47% from floater range, both well above the league average.

Just 39% of Paolo's attempts come inside 10 feet. Over 30% of Paolo's attempts come from midrange. He's a solid midrange shooter, but those shots are just so inefficient comparatively speaking.

[Knightro]

If Franz can continue to uptick his FT rate, which has increased every year of his career, he *could* get away with never being a great 3PT shooter.

It wouldn't be easy, but a .350 FT rate guy at 85% who also makes 55% or better from 2PT could survive from an efficiency standpoint.

[ORLMagicGirl15]

Paolo needs a strong vet presence that can be completely honest with him. Someone needs to step up and tell him that he either need to pick his spots better or just pass the ball. I think Franz tried to allude to it in the post game interview but backed out by including “everyone”. Cole almost slipped some things out as well. This team is cracking in interviews as their frustration with this season rises.