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DiplomaticMagic wrote:Never heard Paolo that frustrated before. Very concerning.
ORLMagicGirl15 wrote:VFX wrote:eyriq wrote:Paolo's presser was fascinating. Said they can't just keep talking about things changing and actually need to change things.
Yeah?
What could he possibly be talking about?
The trade deadline is over. What could they change at this point? His shot selection could be a welcome change maybe.
How about other players taking and making shots so he doesn’t feel like he has to take every shot.
eyriq wrote:Orlando is winning
Actually pretty astute, if you didn't have confidence in him revamping the team in the off season then don't even give him a chance to mess it up.DiplomaticMagic wrote:I would fire Weltman now. If he isnt on the hot seat after this month than that is VERY concerning. But one of the worse situations for a team is a desperate GM/president. They can make a trade that hurts our future because they know if this doesnt work out, theyre gone anyway so they dont care.
Never led once. My powers of manifesting Magic wins suckpepe1991 wrote:eyriq wrote:Orlando is winning
Close one
pepe1991 wrote:Cavs went to offseason, got new coach, fixed offense, had Jerome and Wade returning healthy, mid season added Hunter.
Magic lost in first round and went home happy.
That is core difference. Losing is okey to Weltman. Guy has .400 win rate after 8 years and makes no moves.
Mediocrity is equal championship in his world.
KillMonger wrote:Imagining Paolo and Franz surrounded by competent players that can shoot.....those 2 having wide open spaces to attack the rim because the opps can't help or load up in the paint... That should be the goal, of course Paolo and Franz have to improve their shooting as well but... I don't understand what the front office doesn't get about that
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Rainwater wrote:OnlyFranz22 wrote:Rainwater wrote:
Aren't you kinda proving his point though? The magic need to get better players that fit their scheme. Missing wide open threes is not a coaching issue? Not having a PG is not a coaching issue. These are personal/player skill issues rather than coaching issues.
No letting your players shoot fadeaway mid range shots is a coaching issue. It’s an egregious shot that should never be done.
Franz and Paolo are two guys a coach like SVG would put in a position to succeed.
No PG? What would having a PG do to Franz/Paolo? Anybody can be a PG these days. Franz and Paolo need the ball in their hands. They are not posting up waiting to shoot 3s off the PG running the show.
Ppl hate this but one needs dealt in a massive trade for better roster construction. Which will have to wait for a better coaching staff.
We have a completely different views of what the issues are. Middies are not the reason why the Magic are losing, being dead last in three-point shots made is a bigger reason why the magic are losing. A lack of bench production is a massive reason why the magic are losing. Recently the Magic have been playing Paolo in a lot of pick and rolls and taking the ball out of his hands or posting him up, which has helped him quite a bit, it would be nice to have a point guard to run it with him.
Again, these are not coaching issues but personnel issues. The need to consistently blame Mose for things he cannot control is crazy especially since he has been pretty good this year.
And it's funny you bring up SVG, when he even commented throughout the game the biggest issue for the Magic is their lack of three-point shooting and how that has negatively impacted Paolo and Franz into taking more inefficient shots.
OnlyFranz22 wrote:Rainwater wrote:OnlyFranz22 wrote:
No letting your players shoot fadeaway mid range shots is a coaching issue. It’s an egregious shot that should never be done.
Franz and Paolo are two guys a coach like SVG would put in a position to succeed.
No PG? What would having a PG do to Franz/Paolo? Anybody can be a PG these days. Franz and Paolo need the ball in their hands. They are not posting up waiting to shoot 3s off the PG running the show.
Ppl hate this but one needs dealt in a massive trade for better roster construction. Which will have to wait for a better coaching staff.
We have a completely different views of what the issues are. Middies are not the reason why the Magic are losing, being dead last in three-point shots made is a bigger reason why the magic are losing. A lack of bench production is a massive reason why the magic are losing. Recently the Magic have been playing Paolo in a lot of pick and rolls and taking the ball out of his hands or posting him up, which has helped him quite a bit, it would be nice to have a point guard to run it with him.
Again, these are not coaching issues but personnel issues. The need to consistently blame Mose for things he cannot control is crazy especially since he has been pretty good this year.
And it's funny you bring up SVG, when he even commented throughout the game the biggest issue for the Magic is their lack of three-point shooting and how that has negatively impacted Paolo and Franz into taking more inefficient shots.
Well sorry you are a dork when in comes to actual Magic success
Stick to trivia with your friends, you’ll impress them
paperboymafia wrote:The chickens have come home to roost.
pepe1991 wrote:Damn streamable can't use youtube clips.
go on 0:44 sequence and watch until 1:08
Banchero's man moved to 3 point line, center walked pass him, he didn't even notice any of it, just continued to ball watch player who attacks rim ( zero desire to help, just watching).
Very next play, he stands near Hunter, zero box out, as soon as shot is up he goes to padd some easy rebound, but ball bounced right at Hunter, since Paolo didn't give a f*** about anything but rebound in that play, Hunter is now wide open on 3 point line
4:43
Goes under screen vs Mitchell for no good reason other than being lazy
second half
5:18
Franz gets beaten by dribble penetration, on side of Banchero, he still doesn't give a damn and never provides any help ( or contests shot at rim)
7:20
switches on Merrill. Gives him open corner 3
7:42, on Wade, gives wade rather open 3 point shot
7:53
starts transition with solid 10 feet ahead of Mobley, walks back, Mobley surpasses him- Mobley starts running straight at rim, dunks on poor Isaac giving him facial. Where is Paolo? Well... he jogged behind him.
LIke, even in game where his offense is "okey" he is still by far worst defender on the floor. His body language is pathetic. Only times he even looks like he wants to play is when he gets iso on offensive side.
Three times in 9 min of footage ( that doesn't even include all possessions ) he didn't bother to return on defense on four times.
I'm sorry but this isn't winning basketball nor he plays like winning player.
You can't give me "injury " excuse for this, he did all this last year. This year around there simply isn't prime Isaac, Suggs, Ingles- Mo bench to bail out bad games and cover for his a** on defense.
Instead of holding him accountable for this garbage, we chase tail in endless talks about Tristan, Carter, KCP; Black. Those guys are limited role players, but non of them throws off game as much as Banchero does with crappy defense and high usage, poor efficiency offense. Like , bro is walking two-way-negative player who gets 30% usage and plays below Carmelo Anthony' type defense. You aren't winning jack ****t with PF who is neither defending rim, boxing out, switching on smaller players nor is even bothered to run transition on defense.
pepe1991 wrote:Damn streamable can't use youtube clips.
go on 0:44 sequence and watch until 1:08
Banchero's man moved to 3 point line, center walked pass him, he didn't even notice any of it, just continued to ball watch player who attacks rim ( zero desire to help, just watching).
Very next play, he stands near Hunter, zero box out, as soon as shot is up he goes to padd some easy rebound, but ball bounced right at Hunter, since Paolo didn't give a f*** about anything but rebound in that play, Hunter is now wide open on 3 point line
4:43
Goes under screen vs Mitchell for no good reason other than being lazy
second half
5:18
Franz gets beaten by dribble penetration, on side of Banchero, he still doesn't give a damn and never provides any help ( or contests shot at rim)
7:20
switches on Merrill. Gives him open corner 3
7:42, on Wade, gives wade rather open 3 point shot
7:53
starts transition with solid 10 feet ahead of Mobley, walks back, Mobley surpasses him- Mobley starts running straight at rim, dunks on poor Isaac giving him facial. Where is Paolo? Well... he jogged behind him.
LIke, even in game where his offense is "okey" he is still by far worst defender on the floor. His body language is pathetic. Only times he even looks like he wants to play is when he gets iso on offensive side.
Three times in 9 min of footage ( that doesn't even include all possessions ) he didn't bother to return on defense on four times.
I'm sorry but this isn't winning basketball nor he plays like winning player.
You can't give me "injury " excuse for this, he did all this last year. This year around there simply isn't prime Isaac, Suggs, Ingles- Mo bench to bail out bad games and cover for his a** on defense.
Instead of holding him accountable for this garbage, we chase tail in endless talks about Tristan, Carter, KCP; Black. Those guys are limited role players, but non of them throws off game as much as Banchero does with crappy defense and high usage, poor efficiency offense. Like , bro is walking two-way-negative player who gets 30% usage and plays below Carmelo Anthony' type defense. You aren't winning jack ****t with PF who is neither defending rim, boxing out, switching on smaller players nor is even bothered to run transition on defense.