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[FFBlitzace]

I just read on the Sentinel that Pat Garrity demanded a trade...i wish i was joking...

You said you wish you were joking, so I went to the Sentinel's site and I don't see anything. You have me very excited. Please tell me you actually were, in fact, not joking.

[AdamTheGreek]

I just read on the Sentinel that Pat Garrity demanded a trade...i wish i was joking...

He told the Denver Post he wanted to retire yesterday.

[theTHIEF]

haha...could you imagine....

haha, we're that bad...that PG is just like man, trade me to the Hawks please...

[MoGrAdY]

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well it was an honest question...so you do agree, nice to know hedo at his worst (which I agree he has been past 2 games) is rashard playing "very well". fine I won't spew stats, just tell me how he did in the 4th when it mattered, and how the guy he was covering (okur) played tonight...and you don't even have to give me stats

Thats a lame argument. What about Rudy Gay when he was being defended by Hedo in the 4th? What about Carmelo beatin Hedo down? Im one of the biggest Hedo fans on this board but he has his flaws. An yeah Okur lit us up, but how often is he gonna shoot 10-15 and hit 3's like that? Tonight Memo was jus on, nothing you could do. Rashard played better then Hedo, just own up to it. Its not a damn competition they are on the same team.

[Optimus_Steel]

Magic trade: Pat Garrity

Barcelona trade: Fran Vazquez

[TooNice00]

i just want rashard back to playing SF where he is most effective. we did pay him 118 million to play SF and not PF. and i want to have a true PF. just having a defensive pf plus howard would cover up some a lot of our backcourts defensive problems.

[FFBlitzace]

At least we can kick back and watch Toughest Cowboy on FSN. Pure entertainment.

[karizma87]

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Thats a lame argument. What about Rudy Gay when he was being defended by Hedo in the 4th? What about Carmelo beatin Hedo down? Im one of the biggest Hedo fans on this board but he has his flaws. An yeah Okur lit us up, but how often is he gonna shoot 10-15 and hit 3's like that? Tonight Memo was jus on, nothing you could do. Rashard played better then Hedo, just own up to it. Its not a damn competition they are on the same team.

I proved my points both ways...
i'm not putting down rashard's effort, he did play great, I just wish he coulda hit the same shots in crunchtime, but it's just sad a guy can be amazing for 40 games and have 1 bad and 1 mediocre game, and another guy can do the opposite, and they're put in the same basket.

[TooNice00]

imo this team just looks better when rashard and howard play well together than howard and hedo. if they all could well at the same time we would be an amazing team. unfortunately that has occured very few times.

[FFBlitzace]

Keep in mind that Rashard has been putting up around 20ppg on decent percentages for years now. This is the first year Hedo has sniffed the level of fringe stardom. I know personally that that's why I am more willing to let a bad game by Rashard go by. I have a confidence in him that I don't have in Hedo. 35 or so games compared to a career of inconsistency isn't going to turn me around.

Not hating on Hedo. Just saying.

[MoGrAdY]

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I proved my points both ways...
i'm not putting down rashard's effort, he did play great, I just wish he coulda hit the same shots in crunchtime, but it's just sad a guy can be amazing for 40 games and have 1 bad and 1 mediocre game, and another guy can do the opposite, and they're put in the same basket.

Right but you just proved my point haha. If Hedo has had 40 amazing games, 1 mediocre and 1 bad. And Shard has had 1 amazing game, 1 ok game, and 40 bad games. Yet they are putting up similar numbers, doesnt that say something about Shard? I understand what your tryin to say sorta. But I think the thing here is that Rashard is not tradeable. Hedo to a certain extent is and he has never played this well before. So some people are thinking sell high. But if your new to the board I can see your point. On this board guys turn on players quicker then anything.

[taruky1]

i still think rashard is a better player than hedo especially if he played SF. rashard has been a better player his entire career. i am not gonna let 39 games fool me.

Maybe he is, maybe he isn't. But the notion that Rashard is playing out of position is a little bit exaggerated. I assume that you are primarily talking defensively, because on offense I really don't see Rashard being locked into any PF role. On defense, Hedo is covering PFs at times, and at other times has the tough players like Anthony and Gay to guard. You think that doesn't wear him out? Tonight who had the tougher defender on him? Hedo had Kirilenko, who can be a defensive terror.

I'm really sick of the Hedo-Lewis debate between some people here. Lewis had a great game tonight, Hedo has been struggling on and off the past 5 or 6 games. They both have their strengths and things that they do very well.

I do agree with Prol that Hedo's knee is hurting. I remember him injuring it recently and I've noticed a tad of gimpiness. I think he'll be OK and get over this.

[TooNice00]

i just don't see hedo, rashard, and howard all playing well at the same time. unless our defense improves they all have to be dropping 20+ a night for us to be a really good team.

[Devin 1L]

Keep in mind that Rashard has been putting up around 20ppg on decent percentages for years now. This is the first year Hedo has sniffed the level of fringe stardom. I know personally that that's why I am more willing to let a bad game by Rashard go by. I have a confidence in him that I don't have in Hedo. 35 or so games compared to a career of inconsistency isn't going to turn me around.

Not hating on Hedo. Just saying.

I don't have anything to add, but well said.

[The Letter J]

Keep in mind that Rashard has been putting up around 20ppg on decent percentages for years now. This is the first year Hedo has sniffed the level of fringe stardom. I know personally that that's why I am more willing to let a bad game by Rashard go by. I have a confidence in him that I don't have in Hedo. 35 or so games compared to a career of inconsistency isn't going to turn me around.

Not hating on Hedo. Just saying.

Definitely. It's also Rashard's first year here and he's being asked to play out of position on defense. He seems to be fitting in better recently on offense, but defensively I don't think he'll ever be tough enough to play under the rim. I don't blame him or Hedo for that.

[Bucs80]

If Hedo turns back into a smaller roll.

This team will go down the tube. He better pick up the slack soon.

Some you guys don't understand. When Rashard and Dwight score over 20 points. This team dosen't win much games. But when Hedo and Dwight do score over 20. They win.

Rashard when you think about it, has less of impact than hedo does.

[TooNice00]

If Hedo turns back into a smaller roll.

This team will go down the tube. He better pick up the slack soon.

Some you guys don't understand. When Rashard and Dwight score over 20 points. This team dosen't win much games. But when Hedo and Dwight do score over 20. They win.

Rashard when you think about it, has less of impact than hedo does.

we aren't going anywhere with hedo having a major role either. hedo played his based in december and it didn't do anything for us.

[Devin 1L]

If Hedo turns back into a smaller roll.

This team will go down the tube. He better pick up the slack soon.

Some you guys don't understand. When Rashard and Dwight score over 20 points. This team dosen't win much games. But when Hedo and Dwight do score over 20. They win.

Rashard when you think about it, has less of impact than hedo does.

Is that right?

Well, here are some numbers for you (including Jazz game):

• Number of times Dwight & Hedo have both scored 20 points or more: 8
• Number of times Dwight & Rashard have both scored 20 points or more: 10
  
• Record when Dwight & Hedo both score 20 points or more: 3-5 (.375)
• Record when Dwight & Rashard both score 20 points or more: 5-5 (.500)

Your Rashard hate has hardly been concealed, but to resort to making things up...

I'd suggest sticking to the "Rashard is overpaid" line. No one will argue.

[jazzfan1971]

Personally, I didn't think either player was a big factor in tonight's game.

I thought Rashard made a lot of tough, tough shots. Kid has terrific shooting skill.

I thought Hedo was mostly invisible. Except for that technical.

Both guys are nice role players, and that's probably what Howard needs around him to be successful.

[LBPTarHeel27]

If Hedo turns back into a smaller roll.

This team will go down the tube. He better pick up the slack soon.

Some you guys don't understand. When Rashard and Dwight score over 20 points. This team dosen't win much games. But when Hedo and Dwight do score over 20. They win.

Rashard when you think about it, has less of impact than hedo does.

Is that right?

Well, here are some numbers for you (including Jazz game):

• Number of times Dwight & Hedo have both scored 20 points or more: 8
• Number of times Dwight & Rashard have both scored 20 points or more: 10
  
• Record when Dwight & Hedo both score 20 points or more: 3-5 (.375)
• Record when Dwight & Rashard both score 20 points or more: 5-5 (.500)

Your Rashard hate has hardly been concealed, but to resort to making things up...

I'd suggest sticking to the "Rashard is overpaid" line. No one will argue.

Great numbers.

We can't ask any more from Dwight and Hedo...maybe a little more from Rashard, but still not much.

The problem is the bad play at PG and lack of a bench. Every other night the PG we have starting plays well, and we will typically win that game as long as we had a little bench production. We do not have nearly enough depth or court leadership (PG) to take us anywhere in the playoffs...we barely have enough to have a +500 record.