Official Speculation Thread (Pt XII, Mods Close)

The Real Dalic · Post #461 » by **The Real Dalic** » Tue Feb 28, 2012 2:04 am

mattyBoi wrote:The Suns can kiss ass then, because a 38 year old Nash isn't worth it. Hopefully Otis isn't that dumb.

mattyBoi · Post #462 » by **mattyBoi** » Tue Feb 28, 2012 2:05 am

What's really interesting though, is if we do get Nash by somehow unloading Anderson, Jameer, JJ...Thats an extra 17 million off the cap next year.

Would put us at 47 mil, just sayin.

mattyBoi · Post #463 » by **mattyBoi** » Tue Feb 28, 2012 2:06 am

WHY...WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY did Otis have to sign J Rich and Big Baby to long term deals!!! We could be set right now.

Nyce_1 · Post #464 » by **Nyce_1** » Tue Feb 28, 2012 2:06 am

Nash or Ellis?

Sunsdeuce · Post #465 » by **Sunsdeuce** » Tue Feb 28, 2012 2:07 am

Nyce_1 wrote:
Sunsdeuce wrote:I can tell you suns don't want j Nelson... Along with 98 percent of suns fans want no part of so those of you who like j Nelson it would be great cause your gonna keep him. Suns already have Arron Brooks as our restricted free agent. Which all but guarantees his return.

Suns want salary dump along with youth and draft picks. A third team would almost certainly need to be added.

Will see how aggressive Otis is. Cause it's gonna take alot. Nash in phx is money in sarvers pocket. It's gonna take more then a measly j Nelson and redick. There is no benefit for the suns there. Even throwing in Ryan Anderson isn't enough. Sarver see no ca$h there.

If this is the tone of your FO, Otis Smith should just say kick rocks with no shoes on.

Yea it's the tone of the front office. Sarver is a banker and all he sees is $$$$$$. Sarver sucks. If Jerry colangelo was around he would be smart and trade Nash. I think it's time to move on but I'm not in the front office. Love Nash but it's time.

mattyBoi · Post #466 » by **mattyBoi** » Tue Feb 28, 2012 2:07 am

Nyce_1 wrote:Nash or Ellis?

Ellis. Ellis would actually get Dwight thinking about the future in Orlando.

applash · Post #467 » by **applash** » Tue Feb 28, 2012 2:10 am

We should also get Grant Hill back so he can fracture his ankle again on his first game back in a Magic uniform.

RickB-Orlando · Post #468 » by **RickB-Orlando** » Tue Feb 28, 2012 2:19 am

BelgianMagic wrote:
eyriq wrote:Hey, if we can get Nash without moving Nelson I'd be ecstatic.

Even if that means moving Anderson?

I'd rather move Nelson than Ryan .. Ryan should be untouchable if the player coming to Orlando isn't named Monta Ellis or Deron Williams

Totally agree. Why do so many people treat trading a 23 year old PF that's on the way up like a throw in on some of thee deals?

Post #469 » by **Bensational** » Tue Feb 28, 2012 2:23 am

rcklsscognition wrote:
thelead wrote:Love this deal found on the PHX board (picks going to PHX):

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=8y9jljl

Do that in a heartbeat. It's so straightforward.

yeah, that's not bad. everyone gets what they want.

PHX have a teaser of Beasley, but no future financial commitment if they choose not to re-sign him.

Cammo101 · Post #470 » by **Cammo101** » Tue Feb 28, 2012 2:24 am

I'd trade Ryno in an Ellis deal. Not in a Nash deal though.

RickB-Orlando · Post #471 » by **RickB-Orlando** » Tue Feb 28, 2012 2:26 am

Sunsdeuce wrote:I can tell you suns don't want j Nelson... Along with 98 percent of suns fans want no part of so those of you who like j Nelson it would be great cause your gonna keep him. Suns already have Arron Brooks as our restricted free agent. Which all but guarantees his return.

Suns want salary dump along with youth and draft picks. A third team would almost certainly need to be added.

Will see how aggressive Otis is. Cause it's gonna take alot. Nash in phx is money in sarvers pocket. It's gonna take more then a measly j Nelson and redick. There is no benefit for the suns there. Even throwing in Ryan Anderson isn't enough. Sarver see no ca$h there.

ha...ha...haha....hahaha...kaff..kaff..hoo, sorry, really had me laughing there.

So, Nelson, Redick, and Anderson are not enough for Nash? You did realize we are talking about Steve Nash here, right? That's 38 year old Steve Nash? You know, the point guard?

Nyce_1 · Post #472 » by **Nyce_1** » Tue Feb 28, 2012 2:30 am

These next 2 weeks are gonna be fun.

Reverse_Angle · Post #473 » by **Reverse_Angle** » Tue Feb 28, 2012 2:31 am

Cammo101 wrote:I'd trade Ryno in an Ellis deal. Not in a Nash deal though.

not ideal, but certainly necessary.

The Real Dalic · Post #474 » by **The Real Dalic** » Tue Feb 28, 2012 2:33 am

Nyce_1 wrote:Nash or Ellis?

Hands down Ellis.

Sunsdeuce · Post #475 » by **Sunsdeuce** » Tue Feb 28, 2012 2:34 am

RickB-Orlando wrote:
Sunsdeuce wrote:I can tell you suns don't want j Nelson... Along with 98 percent of suns fans want no part of so those of you who like j Nelson it would be great cause your gonna keep him. Suns already have Arron Brooks as our restricted free agent. Which all but guarantees his return.

Suns want salary dump along with youth and draft picks. A third team would almost certainly need to be added.

Will see how aggressive Otis is. Cause it's gonna take alot. Nash in phx is money in sarvers pocket. It's gonna take more then a measly j Nelson and redick. There is no benefit for the suns there. Even throwing in Ryan Anderson isn't enough. Sarver see no ca$h there.

ha...ha...haha....hahaha...kaff..kaff..hoo, sorry, really had me laughing there.

So, Nelson, Redick, and Anderson are not enough for Nash? You did realize we are talking about Steve Nash here, right? That's 38 year old Steve Nash? You know, the point guard?

I hear what your saying. But he currently leads the league in assists and is more physically fit then most 25 year olds. It is what it is.

U obviously didn't read the other part I posted

Orlando Prodigy · Post #476 » by **Orlando Prodigy** » Tue Feb 28, 2012 2:38 am

"He has not gotten along with coach Scott Skiles, and making matters worse, he has struggled badly on the floor, shooting 35.7 percent from the field and 27.8 percent on 3s, averaging just 10.5 points. Problem is, he is making $9.3 million and has another year on his contract. The Bucks would give him away, if possible."

http://www.iamagm.com

thelead · Post #477 » by **thelead** » Tue Feb 28, 2012 2:41 am

Orlando_Prodigy wrote:"He has not gotten along with coach Scott Skiles, and making matters worse, he has struggled badly on the floor, shooting 35.7 percent from the field and 27.8 percent on 3s, averaging just 10.5 points. Problem is, he is making $9.3 million and has another year on his contract. The Bucks would give him away, if possible."

http://www.iamagm.com

Hedo or Duhon/Q/Orton

Nyce_1 · Post #478 » by **Nyce_1** » Tue Feb 28, 2012 2:41 am

Sunsdeuce, why did your GM give Frye, Warrick, Chills, & Dudley thOse contracts? Especially when Nash's contact ended much sooner.

Post #479 » by **Def Swami** » Tue Feb 28, 2012 2:42 am

The Real Dalic wrote:
Nyce_1 wrote:Nash or Ellis?

Hands down Ellis.

I'd gut this roster for Ellis

The Real Dalic · Post #480 » by **The Real Dalic** » Tue Feb 28, 2012 2:45 am

thelead wrote:
Orlando_Prodigy wrote:"He has not gotten along with coach Scott Skiles, and making matters worse, he has struggled badly on the floor, shooting 35.7 percent from the field and 27.8 percent on 3s, averaging just 10.5 points. Problem is, he is making $9.3 million and has another year on his contract. The Bucks would give him away, if possible."

http://www.iamagm.com

Hedo or Duhon/Q/Orton

I'd be fine with any of those trades.