Official 2024-2025 Magic Trade ideas thread continued

[MartinsIzAfraud]

Blazers fan, I come in peace. Forget the score, what were Magic fans thoughts on Ant Simons?

I did not get to watch the game

He’d thrive in Orlando on our 2nd unit. What’s you think he gets moved for? Expiring and 1st or Expiring & 2 2nds?

[Butter]

Blazers fan, I come in peace. Forget the score, what were Magic fans thoughts on Ant Simons?

I did not get to watch the game

He’d thrive in Orlando on our 2nd unit. What’s you think he gets moved for? Expiring and 1st or Expiring & 2 2nds?

I don't know if staring down Pat Riley is good or bad, but Cronin really stuck to his guns when Lillard was on the market.

I think he's shooting for expirings and a 1st. NOT a premier 1st

[MartinsIzAfraud]

Blazers fan, I come in peace. Forget the score, what were Magic fans thoughts on Ant Simons?

I did not get to watch the game

He’d thrive in Orlando on our 2nd unit. What’s you think he gets moved for? Expiring and 1st or Expiring & 2 2nds?

I don't know if staring down Pat Riley is good or bad, but Cronin really stuck to his guns when Lillard was on the market.

I think he's shooting for expirings and a 1st. NOT a premier 1st

That’s the issue Orlando doesn’t have expirings outside of Gary Harris + Moe Wagner ( torn ACL).

Don’t see Portland wanting Cole at 13M for 1 more year which makes Simons very very very unlikely unfortunately.

[Butter]

He’d thrive in Orlando on our 2nd unit. What’s you think he gets moved for? Expiring and 1st or Expiring & 2 2nds?

I don't know if staring down Pat Riley is good or bad, but Cronin really stuck to his guns when Lillard was on the market.

I think he's shooting for expirings and a 1st. NOT a premier 1st

That’s the issue Orlando doesn’t have expirings outside of Gary Harris + Moe Wagner ( torn ACL).

Don’t see Portland wanting Cole at 13M for 1 more year which makes Simons very very very unlikely unfortunately.

Id guess Cronin prefers expirings, but reality in this new CBA reality, combining smaller short term deals or younger talented players with a protected 1st probably gets it done.

Simons is the Blazers best player, but they have to give Scoot a chance to play 35+ mins without looking over his shoulder.

[MasterGMer]

I don't know if staring down Pat Riley is good or bad, but Cronin really stuck to his guns when Lillard was on the market.

I think he's shooting for expirings and a 1st. NOT a premier 1st

That’s the issue Orlando doesn’t have expirings outside of Gary Harris + Moe Wagner ( torn ACL).

Don’t see Portland wanting Cole at 13M for 1 more year which makes Simons very very very unlikely unfortunately.

Id guess Cronin prefers expirings, but reality in this new CBA reality, combining smaller short term deals or younger talented players with a protected 1st probably gets it done.

Simons is the Blazers best player, but they have to give Scoot a chance to play 35+ mins without looking over his shoulder.

Can the Magic get Anfrenee Simons without giving up a first? More like Finney Smith deal to LA? Would that work?

[JRoy]

That’s the issue Orlando doesn’t have expirings outside of Gary Harris + Moe Wagner ( torn ACL).

Don’t see Portland wanting Cole at 13M for 1 more year which makes Simons very very very unlikely unfortunately.

Id guess Cronin prefers expirings, but reality in this new CBA reality, combining smaller short term deals or younger talented players with a protected 1st probably gets it done.

Simons is the Blazers best player, but they have to give Scoot a chance to play 35+ mins without looking over his shoulder.

Can the Magic get Anfrenee Simons without giving up a first? More like Finney Smith deal to LA? Would that work?

No.

[tester551]

He’d thrive in Orlando on our 2nd unit. What’s you think he gets moved for? Expiring and 1st or Expiring & 2 2nds?

I don't know if staring down Pat Riley is good or bad, but Cronin really stuck to his guns when Lillard was on the market.

I think he's shooting for expirings and a 1st. NOT a premier 1st

That’s the issue Orlando doesn’t have expirings outside of Gary Harris + Moe Wagner ( torn ACL).

Don’t see Portland wanting Cole at 13M for 1 more year which makes Simons very very very unlikely unfortunately.

As a Blazer fan, Id do:
Cole + Harris + better of 25 Orl/Den
for
Simons

[JRoy]

I don't know if staring down Pat Riley is good or bad, but Cronin really stuck to his guns when Lillard was on the market.

I think he's shooting for expirings and a 1st. NOT a premier 1st

That’s the issue Orlando doesn’t have expirings outside of Gary Harris + Moe Wagner ( torn ACL).

Don’t see Portland wanting Cole at 13M for 1 more year which makes Simons very very very unlikely unfortunately.

Id guess Cronin prefers expirings, but reality in this new CBA reality, combining smaller short term deals or younger talented players with a protected 1st probably gets it done.

Simons is the Blazers best player, but they have to give Scoot a chance to play 35+ mins without looking over his shoulder.

I would say Deni is PORs best player.

[JRoy]

I don't know if staring down Pat Riley is good or bad, but Cronin really stuck to his guns when Lillard was on the market.

I think he's shooting for expirings and a 1st. NOT a premier 1st

That’s the issue Orlando doesn’t have expirings outside of Gary Harris + Moe Wagner ( torn ACL).

Don’t see Portland wanting Cole at 13M for 1 more year which makes Simons very very very unlikely unfortunately.

As a Blazer fan, Id do:
Cole + Harris + better of 25 Orl/Den
for
Simons

Agreed.

Simons is not worth 2 FRP.

[pepe1991]

That’s the issue Orlando doesn’t have expirings outside of Gary Harris + Moe Wagner ( torn ACL).

Don’t see Portland wanting Cole at 13M for 1 more year which makes Simons very very very unlikely unfortunately.

Id guess Cronin prefers expirings, but reality in this new CBA reality, combining smaller short term deals or younger talented players with a protected 1st probably gets it done.

Simons is the Blazers best player, but they have to give Scoot a chance to play 35+ mins without looking over his shoulder.

I would say Deni is PORs best player.

Deni is best Blazers trade in long time. I would like to know what was conversation on Wizards before trade.
Former lottery pick, improved, breakout year, 24 years old. Nah. Let's trade him.

Deni probably will never be star player, but is guy who plays in right way and makes every team better.

[I Rasharted]

He lost his status to the point that he was benched and we drafted two guards in the lottery, one of which, AB, is in the same archetype.

I always thought it was obvious the Magic drafted Black to be what they wanted Suggs to be. Black is basically Suggs with basketball instincts.

[Skybox]

He’d thrive in Orlando on our 2nd unit. What’s you think he gets moved for? Expiring and 1st or Expiring & 2 2nds?

I don't know if staring down Pat Riley is good or bad, but Cronin really stuck to his guns when Lillard was on the market.

I think he's shooting for expirings and a 1st. NOT a premier 1st

That’s the issue Orlando doesn’t have expirings outside of Gary Harris + Moe Wagner ( torn ACL).

Don’t see Portland wanting Cole at 13M for 1 more year which makes Simons very very very unlikely unfortunately.

Throw in extra srps to accommodate Cole’s remaining (only) one year.

Expand it to include Rob Williams

[Skybox]

He lost his status to the point that he was benched and we drafted two guards in the lottery, one of which, AB, is in the same archetype.

I always thought it was obvious the Magic drafted Black to be what they wanted Suggs to be. Black is basically Suggs with basketball instincts.

Just absurd…AB is becoming this mythological creature with no resemblance to the guy on the court

[OnlyFranz22]

I don't know if staring down Pat Riley is good or bad, but Cronin really stuck to his guns when Lillard was on the market.

I think he's shooting for expirings and a 1st. NOT a premier 1st

That’s the issue Orlando doesn’t have expirings outside of Gary Harris + Moe Wagner ( torn ACL).

Don’t see Portland wanting Cole at 13M for 1 more year which makes Simons very very very unlikely unfortunately.

As a Blazer fan, Id do:
Cole + Harris + better of 25 Orl/Den
for
Simons

If that’s all it takes it should be an absolute no brainer for the front office…

The guy can play off and on the ball with Franz/Paolo. Immediate upgrade to the offense.

[Skybox]

Id guess Cronin prefers expirings, but reality in this new CBA reality, combining smaller short term deals or younger talented players with a protected 1st probably gets it done.

Simons is the Blazers best player, but they have to give Scoot a chance to play 35+ mins without looking over his shoulder.

Can the Magic get Anfrenee Simons without giving up a first? More like Finney Smith deal to LA? Would that work?

No.

When did it not become clear that Simons was the best offensive player on the court last night and many nights…I understand he’s not “complete” but the way people shun him and, at the same glorify these losers on ORL like they’re right on the verge of stardom

Of course he’s worth a late frp…it’d be a lot more if not for POR’s current situation and roster. This should have happened a year ago.

IF the Magic end up drafting 2 nobodies in the late first round this summer while guys like Simons or Sexton are, apparently, on the table…

Have to make it the DEN pick as ours is flirting with lottery, but…defense

[MartinsIzAfraud]

Our good friend JR.. Buy or Sell at the deadline

Orlando Magic

Buy: The Magic have slumped lately, but even with the recent return of star Paolo Banchero, they remain inundated with injuries, including to defensive standouts Jalen Suggs and Goga Bitadze. Franz Wagner, Orlando’s second star, on Thursday played his first game since Dec. 6. A larger problem remains with their 3-point shooting, an area where the Magic need significant help. A top-level 3-and-D guy would be ideal. In other words, Orlando needs exactly the characteristics so much of the league needs. With Moe Wagner out for the season, a decent backup big would help, too. — Josh Robbins

[BadMofoPimp]

I bet Simons would really like to play for Orlando. Portland knowing this would probably demand a little more.

https://www.nba.com/news/qa-anfernee-simons-on-nba-stardom-growing-up-in-orlando-and-giving-back

NBA.com: Do you ever draw inspiration from the kids you’re helping in Orlando? How does seeing them strive to reach their goals remind you of your own journey?

Simons: Yes, of course. You build relationships with the kids and it’s nice to see familiar faces and watching them grow up. You see them mature so you try to help them as much as you can. Part of that comes with being a role model so I try to live my life in a way that is a positive influence for them.

NBA.com: In what ways has Orlando helped shape your identity as a player or person?

Simons: The people that I grew up around and helped me along the way will always be the top thing that has shaped me as a player and a person. There’s of course the main people like my immediate family but I feel like I’ve learned something from everyone in that community and they continue to support me to this day whether it is showing up for games or showing up to volunteer at Be a Light community events.

[MartinsIzAfraud]

I hope that Anthony Parker, who played plenty of NBA, has watched this team healthy & not healthy and knows we have some major issues on the offensive side. Yes, we're a defense-first team and a damn good one when healthy. However, we could really use some offensive power and while it might take us from top 5 defensive team to a top 10 one, offensively when healthy we could get closer to middle of the pack.

Time is running out for them to sit still and not make a move. It doesn't and shouldn't be an all-in move, but we need to shuffle the deck a bit and hope for a better shoe to get some cash

[eyriq]

He lost his status to the point that he was benched and we drafted two guards in the lottery, one of which, AB, is in the same archetype.

I always thought it was obvious the Magic drafted Black to be what they wanted Suggs to be. Black is basically Suggs with basketball instincts.

Facts. The writing is on the wall.

[Skybox]

I hope that Anthony Parker, who played plenty of NBA, has watched this team healthy & not healthy and knows we have some major issues on the offensive side. Yes, we're a defense-first team and a damn good one when healthy. However, we could really use some offensive power and while it might take us from top 5 defensive team to a top 10 one, offensively when healthy we could get closer to middle of the pack.

Time is running out for them to sit still and not make a move. It doesn't and shouldn't be an all-in move, but we need to shuffle the deck a bit and hope for a better shoe to get some cash

Agree for a million reasons...I'd also add that the vibe is so bad right now that there might be some emotional benefit to the team by just making some news..."Hey, you guys keep fighting - help is on the way". Letting them know the FO has their backs.

I also don't really mind if there's a little bit of a shudder among the underachievers that their performance is being monitored and nothing is guaranteed...not playing time, not raises, not even a job in the NBA. That's the life they've chosen (blessed to be able to choose) and there's no room for mercy among highly-compensated high achievers in a very visible, very competitive career...If they want to stay under the radar the post office is hiring.