Official 2024-2025 Magic Trade ideas thread continued

[Redick07]

No... like any team in the league, they are gonna overvalur their ypung guys and ask the moon for them despite the rest of the league thinking they are nuts.

Cason for them is a solid PG that defends well and shoot the 3s. You can bet they think he is better than what wr think we have in AB

Suggs is a third option and Franz is an All-NBA talent. Cason is a 3&D roleplayer.

He is a 3&D PG for OKC... but in another team he could be a starting PG... OKC isnt blind to what other teams might think of Cason.

He is still a sophomore yet shows a lot of promise

Trust me, he is not our answer and we really don’t need him….What we need is an organizer and a “real” proven shooter.

[RookieStar]

Suggs is a third option and Franz is an All-NBA talent. Cason is a 3&D roleplayer.

He is a 3&D PG for OKC... but in another team he could be a starting PG... OKC isnt blind to what other teams might think of Cason.

He is still a sophomore yet shows a lot of promise

Trust me, he is not our answer and we really don’t need him….What we need is an organizer and a “real” proven shooter.

You have no argurments from me. I dont want him here as well. Im just answering to the original qquestion if we can get him

[djguevara114]

Maybe Donovan Mitchell will ask for a trade? lol

[Knightro]

Darius Garland future Magician.

[OrlandoDream]

Darius Garland future Magician.

Were all thinking it. He is playing injured clearly. Dude still a defensive cone but idc. Pair him with Suggs and see what we got. Contract isn't awful either. KCP, Cole, and Jett would match.

[RichCollab]

Garland for Suggs….

Garland
AB
Franz
Paolo

[eyriq]

Garland for Suggs….

Garland
AB
Franz
Paolo

Suggs + Houstan + #16 + #25 for Garland

[ogmagicfan]

I'd take Darius Garland with open arms

Magic: Suggs, Jett, Den 1st, 2027 1st

Cavs: Garland, 2nd Rounder

With #16 pick we get either a young big man (Sorber/Maluach) or a young guard as deep bench.

Next move depends on how much we trust AB at this stage. We do want to move KCP, we could trade him in a trade with TDS for either Sexton or Simons.

Sign DeAnthony Melton in the offseason

Garland/Sexton or Simons/CoJo
AB/Melton/Cole
Franz/Houstan
Paolo/Isaac
WCJ/Goga/Sorber or Maluach

Could contend with this roster. We would have Cole & Goga to use in trades if we need to upgrade as the season progresses, along with most of our picks.

[RichCollab]

Garland for Suggs….

Garland
AB
Franz
Paolo

Suggs + Houstan + #16 + #25 for Garland

Not adding 2 1st picks.

[eyriq]

Garland for Suggs….

Garland
AB
Franz
Paolo

Suggs + Houstan + #16 + #25 for Garland

Not adding 2 1st picks.

Garland is an all-star, Suggs is a third option

[Magic_Johnny12]

Maybe I’m a homer, but I really think we’re able to net a quality PG withOUT trading Suggs (or any of the core).

This is not to say Suggs is untouchable, but it would truly be a travesty if Weltman can’t pull something off with the tangible assets we currently have and we never get to see our homegrown players play with a PG that’s a difference maker.

Elite GM’s always find a way. It will cost us in draft equity of course, but for the right player it may be worth it.

[OrlChamps2030]

Maybe I’m a homer, but I really think we’re able to net a quality PG withOUT trading Suggs (or any of the core).

This is not to say Suggs is untouchable, but it would truly be a travesty if Weltman can’t pull something off with the tangible assets we currently have and we never get to see our homegrown players play with a PG that’s a difference maker.

Elite GM’s always find a way. It will cost us in draft equity of course, but for the right player it may be worth it.

What about something based around AB + salary + picks for Garland or Bane?

[GelbeWand09]

The ideal would be a Garland & Suggs backcourt, but super unrealistic. Suggs for Garland i would do in a heartbeat despite that i'm a fan of Suggs but Garland is the much better offensive fit and like the team showed in the last 20 games, they can play top 3 defense without him. Garland is pretty much the ideal PG for our forwards. He can drive, he can shoot on high volume, he can pass & playmake but isnt too ball dominant. And i just have big concern with Suggs healthwise.
I just dont see Cleveland trading him at all, unless they get a real all star back. And they just have the injury bug at the wrong time. They are young and can try next season again.
I would try everything realistic to get Reaves. He is not perfect like Garland but he does a lot of the things we need on a good level too and is just the much more well rounded offensive player compared to Simons, Sexton or White.

[pepe1991]

Suggs and picks for Garland is actually pretty fair deal

[Skybox]

Suggs + a solid frp is probably fair for Garland...Garland really does get bullied by the more physical defensive guards of the NBA (particularly Suggs ). Suddenly, KCP wouldn't seem like an overpaid redundancy anymore either - he'd be a cheaper Suggs and, hopefully, playing with a PG opens his game back up. Obviously, AB is right there too - to complement an undersized scoring PG.

I've always felt that IF we moved Suggs
1. We could get a pretty serious return in the form of more of an offensively geared player
2. I DON'T want to see him 4x a year, send him out West

I don't think it's on the table at all for Weltman, his big extension is just kicking in and he, effectively, missed the season and playoff run and he's a big-game player...but I know I'd be asking around...that knee worries me and his propensity to hurt himself was a thing BEFORE that.

Suggs would open a LOT of doors though.

[Skybox]

Suggs + a solid frp is probably fair for Garland...Garland really does get bullied by the more physical defensive guards of the NBA (particularly Suggs ). Suddenly, KCP wouldn't seem like an overpaid redundancy anymore either - he'd be a cheaper Suggs and, hopefully, playing with a PG opens his game back up. Obviously, AB is right there too - to complement an undersized scoring PG.

I've always felt that IF we moved Suggs
1. We could get a pretty serious return in the form of more of an offensively geared player
2. I DON'T want to see him 4x a year, send him out West

I don't think it's on the table at all for Weltman, his big extension is just kicking in and he, effectively, missed the season and playoff run and he's a big-game player...but I know I'd be asking around...that knee worries me and his propensity to hurt himself was a thing BEFORE that.

Suggs would open a LOT of doors though.

*funny that Simons is dismissed as "unplayable" defensively, but Suggs for Garland sounds delightful.

[Skybox]

Question:

What does Garland do that CJ McCollum can't...for a LOT less trade value (I would assume).

I understand that CJ is older but it's not like he's half-retired...of course, Garland is younger and more valuable, but there'd be a tremendous cost. We wouldn't be talking Suggs for CJ. CJ has been missing games but NOLA phoned it in for much of the year, so it's hard to gauge. Also, Garland has been limited by injuries the last few years too - his big long contract is a bigger risk if injuries are a factor.

Garland > McCollum, no doubt - but availability, price, etc makes CJ a consideration for me. He's still a very good player with a few more good years.

[basketballRob]

They aren't going to have 3 max players in Orlando.

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[jezzerinho]

If I'm trading Suggs, I want him away from direct rivals, pref to the West.

[Skybox]

Summer of Love...episode 245

Woke up to two interesting ideas in General Trade threads. Here are some twists on them...

#1
ORL sends: KCP, 16, 25
DAL sends: Klay, Hardy, 11

#2
ORL sends: Jalen Suggs, Jett Howard, ORL 27 frp(top3)
CLE sends: Darius Garland

#3
ORL sends: Goga Bitadze, Gary Harris (exercise TO), #46
MIL sends: Bobby Portis (decline PO, SnT $15m x 3yrs)

ORL drafts Maluach at #11, ORL declines option on Moe Wagner and re-signs for $8m x 3years, declines TO on Houstan, CoJo

WCJ, Maluach, Portis (Moe)
Paolo, Portis, Isaac
Franz, Isaac, TdS
AB, Thompson, Anthony
Garland, AB, Hardy

TONS more offensive firepower in the backcourt, but none that necessarily stifles Paolo & Franz as the primary scorers, in fact Garland & Klay enhance their games with their shooting gravity. Maluach looks to become the defensive anchor and oversized, hyper-athletic rebound gobbler that Mose has lacked. WCJ, Moe & Portis make for tremendously deep and versatile frontcourt depth. A slimmed down Isaac returns to terrorizing all over the court as a bit of a "roaming free safety" with the comfort of a giant rim-protector behind him for the first-time in his career. Ultimately, AB and Garland form into a perfectly matched starting backcourt for the next decade. The team is much improved overnight, but also set up for years of progress and contention.