Official 2024-2025 Magic Trade ideas thread continued

[Skybox]

Less Ambitious/Costly version of above...

#1
ORL sends: KCP, Gary Harris, #25
DAL sends: Klay, Gafford

#2
ORL sends: Cole Anthony, Goga Bitadze, Jett Howard, #16
NOLA sends: CJ McCollum, Herb Jones
Why NOLA: get a young, inexpensive C to support and eventually backup Missi

ORL declines option on Moe Wagner and re-signs for $8m x 3years, declines TO on Houstan

Gafford, WCJ, (Moe)
Paolo, Jones, Isaac
Franz, Isaac, TdS
Suggs, Thompson, Jones/TdS
McCollum, AB, CoJo

Frontcourt actually gets much better defensively, backcourt and wings get much better offensively. Herb Jones is a real X-factor...large, mobile 3&D player who may be odd man out depending on NOLA's draft pick. Trey Murphy has exceeded Jones offensively and was given a bigger deal. Jones is on a very team-friendly deal for a guy that, at minimum, replaces KCP's production on both ends - in an even larger package.

[drsd]

Less Ambitious/Costly version of above...

#1
ORL sends: KCP, Gary Harris, #25
DAL sends: Klay, Gafford

#2
ORL sends: Cole Anthony, Goga Bitadze, Jett Howard, #16
NOLA sends: CJ McCollum, Herb Jones
Why NOLA: get a young, inexpensive C to support and eventually backup Missi

ORL declines option on Moe Wagner and re-signs for $8m x 3years, declines TO on Houstan

Gafford, WCJ, (Moe)
Paolo, Jones, Isaac
Franz, Isaac, TdS
Suggs, Thompson, Jones/TdS
McCollum, AB, CoJo

Frontcourt actually gets much better defensively, backcourt and wings get much better offensively. Herb Jones is a real X-factor...large, mobile 3&D player who may be odd man out depending on NOLA's draft pick. Trey Murphy has exceeded Jones offensively and was given a bigger deal. Jones is on a very team-friendly deal for a guy that, at minimum, replaces KCP's production on both ends - in an even larger package.

The trades ceetainly balance the roster; splitting Caldwell-Pope's salary to two salaries really helps the team as well.

That said, I don't think the dpeth chart is what would result. And there is no reason to release Houstan. So I'll keep him in this scenario. And Joseph, as you did. And piclk up a Nicolas Batum-type to finalize the roster on an LLE.

Carter/Gafford/M-Wagner
Banchero/Isaac/Batum
F-Wagner/Jones/da Silva
Suggs/Thompson/Houstan
McCollum/Black/Joseph

The Magic needs a new backup 2 and backup 3. Your trades nicely resolve those core needs.
This is a much more balanced roster than the 2024/25 roster.

[orlando_joe]

Less Ambitious/Costly version of above...

#1
ORL sends: KCP, Gary Harris, #25
DAL sends: Klay, Gafford

#2
ORL sends: Cole Anthony, Goga Bitadze, Jett Howard, #16
NOLA sends: CJ McCollum, Herb Jones
Why NOLA: get a young, inexpensive C to support and eventually backup Missi

ORL declines option on Moe Wagner and re-signs for $8m x 3years, declines TO on Houstan

Gafford, WCJ, (Moe)
Paolo, Jones, Isaac
Franz, Isaac, TdS
Suggs, Thompson, Jones/TdS
McCollum, AB, CoJo

Frontcourt actually gets much better defensively, backcourt and wings get much better offensively. Herb Jones is a real X-factor...large, mobile 3&D player who may be odd man out depending on NOLA's draft pick. Trey Murphy has exceeded Jones offensively and was given a bigger deal. Jones is on a very team-friendly deal for a guy that, at minimum, replaces KCP's production on both ends - in an even larger package.

so magic take on 20 mill extra and i think over 2nd apron for no game changer no long term pg? yea you got me back ...magic pass easily ...lol

forgot to mention trade away both 1st rd picks to do it

[basketballRob]

Less Ambitious/Costly version of above...

#1
ORL sends: KCP, Gary Harris, #25
DAL sends: Klay, Gafford

#2
ORL sends: Cole Anthony, Goga Bitadze, Jett Howard, #16
NOLA sends: CJ McCollum, Herb Jones
Why NOLA: get a young, inexpensive C to support and eventually backup Missi

ORL declines option on Moe Wagner and re-signs for $8m x 3years, declines TO on Houstan

Gafford, WCJ, (Moe)
Paolo, Jones, Isaac
Franz, Isaac, TdS
Suggs, Thompson, Jones/TdS
McCollum, AB, CoJo

Frontcourt actually gets much better defensively, backcourt and wings get much better offensively. Herb Jones is a real X-factor...large, mobile 3&D player who may be odd man out depending on NOLA's draft pick. Trey Murphy has exceeded Jones offensively and was given a bigger deal. Jones is on a very team-friendly deal for a guy that, at minimum, replaces KCP's production on both ends - in an even larger package.

#2 wouldn't matchup salary wise?

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[RichCollab]

Less Ambitious/Costly version of above...

#1
ORL sends: KCP, Gary Harris, #25
DAL sends: Klay, Gafford

#2
ORL sends: Cole Anthony, Goga Bitadze, Jett Howard, #16
NOLA sends: CJ McCollum, Herb Jones
Why NOLA: get a young, inexpensive C to support and eventually backup Missi

ORL declines option on Moe Wagner and re-signs for $8m x 3years, declines TO on Houstan

Gafford, WCJ, (Moe)
Paolo, Jones, Isaac
Franz, Isaac, TdS
Suggs, Thompson, Jones/TdS
McCollum, AB, CoJo

Frontcourt actually gets much better defensively, backcourt and wings get much better offensively. Herb Jones is a real X-factor...large, mobile 3&D player who may be odd man out depending on NOLA's draft pick. Trey Murphy has exceeded Jones offensively and was given a bigger deal. Jones is on a very team-friendly deal for a guy that, at minimum, replaces KCP's production on both ends - in an even larger package.

You lost me at Klay.

[Magic_Johnny12]

Maybe I’m a homer, but I really think we’re able to net a quality PG withOUT trading Suggs (or any of the core).

This is not to say Suggs is untouchable, but it would truly be a travesty if Weltman can’t pull something off with the tangible assets we currently have and we never get to see our homegrown players play with a PG that’s a difference maker.

Elite GM’s always find a way. It will cost us in draft equity of course, but for the right player it may be worth it.

What about something based around AB + salary + picks for Garland or Bane?

I love the idea of both, but if you know anything about our cap situation/looming apron restrictions (I mean this with respect) you would know that acquiring a third max player is wishful thinking and extremely unrealistic/unlikely.

I finally agree with Skybox here that McCollum would make more sense than Garland with all things considered.

[JoshuaPotter]

Some really good ideas, I can't wait for us all to be disappointed.

[OrlandoDream]

Maybe I’m a homer, but I really think we’re able to net a quality PG withOUT trading Suggs (or any of the core).

This is not to say Suggs is untouchable, but it would truly be a travesty if Weltman can’t pull something off with the tangible assets we currently have and we never get to see our homegrown players play with a PG that’s a difference maker.

Elite GM’s always find a way. It will cost us in draft equity of course, but for the right player it may be worth it.

My exact sentiments. Im actually surprised the amount of fans suggesting Suggs swap. Suggs is so important for this team. A 23yo all NBA defender and the head of our defense. You saw how much we missed him after he went down. Weltman isn't going to trade one of the trio until we can see what they can do together in full healthy season with real PG.

Of course Ill take garland despite his deficiencies but I think we can find a quality PG (White, Sexton) at a cheaper cost while keeping our core 3. I would hat to trade suggs and he isn't untouchable like Paolo and Franz but it would need to be for player like Mitchell level. Garland has issues too. Already injury prone, and awful defender. Not an enticing deal giving away one of the best NBA defender for one of the worse. Thats not our DNA.

[Magic_Johnny12]

Less Ambitious/Costly version of above...

#1
ORL sends: KCP, Gary Harris, #25
DAL sends: Klay, Gafford

#2
ORL sends: Cole Anthony, Goga Bitadze, Jett Howard, #16
NOLA sends: CJ McCollum, Herb Jones
Why NOLA: get a young, inexpensive C to support and eventually backup Missi

ORL declines option on Moe Wagner and re-signs for $8m x 3years, declines TO on Houstan

Gafford, WCJ, (Moe)
Paolo, Jones, Isaac
Franz, Isaac, TdS
Suggs, Thompson, Jones/TdS
McCollum, AB, CoJo

Frontcourt actually gets much better defensively, backcourt and wings get much better offensively. Herb Jones is a real X-factor...large, mobile 3&D player who may be odd man out depending on NOLA's draft pick. Trey Murphy has exceeded Jones offensively and was given a bigger deal. Jones is on a very team-friendly deal for a guy that, at minimum, replaces KCP's production on both ends - in an even larger package.

#2 is going to require a whole lot more, Herb isn’t just a throw in but like the overall direction of it all.

[Magic_Johnny12]

Less Ambitious/Costly version of above...

#1
ORL sends: KCP, Gary Harris, #25
DAL sends: Klay, Gafford

#2
ORL sends: Cole Anthony, Goga Bitadze, Jett Howard, #16
NOLA sends: CJ McCollum, Herb Jones
Why NOLA: get a young, inexpensive C to support and eventually backup Missi

ORL declines option on Moe Wagner and re-signs for $8m x 3years, declines TO on Houstan

Gafford, WCJ, (Moe)
Paolo, Jones, Isaac
Franz, Isaac, TdS
Suggs, Thompson, Jones/TdS
McCollum, AB, CoJo

Frontcourt actually gets much better defensively, backcourt and wings get much better offensively. Herb Jones is a real X-factor...large, mobile 3&D player who may be odd man out depending on NOLA's draft pick. Trey Murphy has exceeded Jones offensively and was given a bigger deal. Jones is on a very team-friendly deal for a guy that, at minimum, replaces KCP's production on both ends - in an even larger package.

so magic take on 20 mill extra and i think over 2nd apron for no game changer no long term pg? yea you got me back ...magic pass easily ...lol

forgot to mention trade away both 1st rd picks to do it

Dude, there’s a time to be picky and hyper critical about the trades we do, but this ain’t the time.

If Weltman turned KCP/expirings/two insignificant FRPs to Herb Jones, CJ McCollum, Daniel Gafford, Klay Thompson we will be building a statue of him outside KIA Center but lucky for you this won’t happen because it will require a lot more value.

[89Magicfan]

Going through the options seems like for me it comes back to Simons. Most realistic possibility, his strengths are our weaknesses. Played more than half of the time at PG. Excellent PnR player.

Still can find a solid PG if need to.

[orlando_joe]

Less Ambitious/Costly version of above...

#1
ORL sends: KCP, Gary Harris, #25
DAL sends: Klay, Gafford

#2
ORL sends: Cole Anthony, Goga Bitadze, Jett Howard, #16
NOLA sends: CJ McCollum, Herb Jones
Why NOLA: get a young, inexpensive C to support and eventually backup Missi

ORL declines option on Moe Wagner and re-signs for $8m x 3years, declines TO on Houstan

Gafford, WCJ, (Moe)
Paolo, Jones, Isaac
Franz, Isaac, TdS
Suggs, Thompson, Jones/TdS
McCollum, AB, CoJo

Frontcourt actually gets much better defensively, backcourt and wings get much better offensively. Herb Jones is a real X-factor...large, mobile 3&D player who may be odd man out depending on NOLA's draft pick. Trey Murphy has exceeded Jones offensively and was given a bigger deal. Jones is on a very team-friendly deal for a guy that, at minimum, replaces KCP's production on both ends - in an even larger package.

so magic take on 20 mill extra and i think over 2nd apron for no game changer no long term pg? yea you got me back ...magic pass easily ...lol

forgot to mention trade away both 1st rd picks to do it

Dude, there’s a time to be picky and hyper critical about the trades we do, but this ain’t the time.

If Weltman turned KCP/expirings/two insignificant FRPs to Herb Jones, CJ McCollum, Daniel Gafford, Klay Thompson we will be building a statue of him outside KIA Center but lucky for you this won’t happen because it will require a lot more value.

not all of us...every player is on downside big time all had bad yrs and looked worse

[cedric76]

Less Ambitious/Costly version of above...

#1
ORL sends: KCP, Gary Harris, #25
DAL sends: Klay, Gafford

#2
ORL sends: Cole Anthony, Goga Bitadze, Jett Howard, #16
NOLA sends: CJ McCollum, Herb Jones
Why NOLA: get a young, inexpensive C to support and eventually backup Missi

ORL declines option on Moe Wagner and re-signs for $8m x 3years, declines TO on Houstan

Gafford, WCJ, (Moe)
Paolo, Jones, Isaac
Franz, Isaac, TdS
Suggs, Thompson, Jones/TdS
McCollum, AB, CoJo

Frontcourt actually gets much better defensively, backcourt and wings get much better offensively. Herb Jones is a real X-factor...large, mobile 3&D player who may be odd man out depending on NOLA's draft pick. Trey Murphy has exceeded Jones offensively and was given a bigger deal. Jones is on a very team-friendly deal for a guy that, at minimum, replaces KCP's production on both ends - in an even larger package.

so magic take on 20 mill extra and i think over 2nd apron for no game changer no long term pg? yea you got me back ...magic pass easily ...lol

forgot to mention trade away both 1st rd picks to do it

Dude, there’s a time to be picky and hyper critical about the trades we do, but this ain’t the time.

If Weltman turned KCP/expirings/two insignificant FRPs to Herb Jones, CJ McCollum, Daniel Gafford, Klay Thompson we will be building a statue of him outside KIA Center but lucky for you this won’t happen because it will require a lot more value.

The statue would be called:' I have no clue how the cba works'

[Skybox]

Less Ambitious/Costly version of above...

#1
ORL sends: KCP, Gary Harris, #25
DAL sends: Klay, Gafford

#2
ORL sends: Cole Anthony, Goga Bitadze, Jett Howard, #16
NOLA sends: CJ McCollum, Herb Jones
Why NOLA: get a young, inexpensive C to support and eventually backup Missi

ORL declines option on Moe Wagner and re-signs for $8m x 3years, declines TO on Houstan

Gafford, WCJ, (Moe)
Paolo, Jones, Isaac
Franz, Isaac, TdS
Suggs, Thompson, Jones/TdS
McCollum, AB, CoJo

Frontcourt actually gets much better defensively, backcourt and wings get much better offensively. Herb Jones is a real X-factor...large, mobile 3&D player who may be odd man out depending on NOLA's draft pick. Trey Murphy has exceeded Jones offensively and was given a bigger deal. Jones is on a very team-friendly deal for a guy that, at minimum, replaces KCP's production on both ends - in an even larger package.

#2 wouldn't matchup salary wise?

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You're right...I think I literally had too many trades spinning in my head

[Skybox]

Less Ambitious/Costly version of above...

#1
ORL sends: KCP, Gary Harris, #25
DAL sends: Klay, Gafford

#2
ORL sends: Cole Anthony, Goga Bitadze, Jett Howard, #16
NOLA sends: CJ McCollum, Herb Jones
Why NOLA: get a young, inexpensive C to support and eventually backup Missi

ORL declines option on Moe Wagner and re-signs for $8m x 3years, declines TO on Houstan

Gafford, WCJ, (Moe)
Paolo, Jones, Isaac
Franz, Isaac, TdS
Suggs, Thompson, Jones/TdS
McCollum, AB, CoJo

Frontcourt actually gets much better defensively, backcourt and wings get much better offensively. Herb Jones is a real X-factor...large, mobile 3&D player who may be odd man out depending on NOLA's draft pick. Trey Murphy has exceeded Jones offensively and was given a bigger deal. Jones is on a very team-friendly deal for a guy that, at minimum, replaces KCP's production on both ends - in an even larger package.

You lost me at Klay.

Klay's not the point of #1 at all...he makes 2/3 of what KCP makes and he matches to get our new starting C...and, as "salary filler" - he's still one of the most feared 3pt threats out there. I have him in a reserve role to supply legendary 3pt shooters at multiple points in the rotation.

ORDER of priorities in Trade #1
1) Defensive Center
2) Getting off of KCP's large salary while keeping Suggs and AB, who do the same things
3) Accidentally obtain one of the greatest 3pt shooters in history as salary filler

[Skybox]

Less Ambitious/Costly version of above...

#1
ORL sends: KCP, Gary Harris, #25
DAL sends: Klay, Gafford

#2
ORL sends: Cole Anthony, Goga Bitadze, Jett Howard, #16
NOLA sends: CJ McCollum, Herb Jones
Why NOLA: get a young, inexpensive C to support and eventually backup Missi

ORL declines option on Moe Wagner and re-signs for $8m x 3years, declines TO on Houstan

Gafford, WCJ, (Moe)
Paolo, Jones, Isaac
Franz, Isaac, TdS
Suggs, Thompson, Jones/TdS
McCollum, AB, CoJo

Frontcourt actually gets much better defensively, backcourt and wings get much better offensively. Herb Jones is a real X-factor...large, mobile 3&D player who may be odd man out depending on NOLA's draft pick. Trey Murphy has exceeded Jones offensively and was given a bigger deal. Jones is on a very team-friendly deal for a guy that, at minimum, replaces KCP's production on both ends - in an even larger package.

so magic take on 20 mill extra and i think over 2nd apron for no game changer no long term pg? yea you got me back ...magic pass easily ...lol

forgot to mention trade away both 1st rd picks to do it

Dude, there’s a time to be picky and hyper critical about the trades we do, but this ain’t the time.

If Weltman turned KCP/expirings/two insignificant FRPs to Herb Jones, CJ McCollum, Daniel Gafford, Klay Thompson we will be building a statue of him outside KIA Center but lucky for you this won’t happen because it will require a lot more value.

I did mess up the math on #2, that won't work as it is...but it doesn't take much to get a "Ah Hah...NO!" out of him

then to spin it into some big "decline" story Our whole team declined in 3pt shooting, health, efficiency, etc if you look hard enough

[Magic_Johnny12]

so magic take on 20 mill extra and i think over 2nd apron for no game changer no long term pg? yea you got me back ...magic pass easily ...lol

forgot to mention trade away both 1st rd picks to do it

Dude, there’s a time to be picky and hyper critical about the trades we do, but this ain’t the time.

If Weltman turned KCP/expirings/two insignificant FRPs to Herb Jones, CJ McCollum, Daniel Gafford, Klay Thompson we will be building a statue of him outside KIA Center but lucky for you this won’t happen because it will require a lot more value.

not all of us...every player is on downside big time all had bad yrs and looked worse

Oh. Sounds familiar

[orlando_joe]

Less Ambitious/Costly version of above...

#1
ORL sends: KCP, Gary Harris, #25
DAL sends: Klay, Gafford

#2
ORL sends: Cole Anthony, Goga Bitadze, Jett Howard, #16
NOLA sends: CJ McCollum, Herb Jones
Why NOLA: get a young, inexpensive C to support and eventually backup Missi

ORL declines option on Moe Wagner and re-signs for $8m x 3years, declines TO on Houstan

Gafford, WCJ, (Moe)
Paolo, Jones, Isaac
Franz, Isaac, TdS
Suggs, Thompson, Jones/TdS
McCollum, AB, CoJo

Frontcourt actually gets much better defensively, backcourt and wings get much better offensively. Herb Jones is a real X-factor...large, mobile 3&D player who may be odd man out depending on NOLA's draft pick. Trey Murphy has exceeded Jones offensively and was given a bigger deal. Jones is on a very team-friendly deal for a guy that, at minimum, replaces KCP's production on both ends - in an even larger package.

You lost me at Klay.

Klay's not the point of #1 at all...he makes 2/3 of what KCP makes and he matches to get our new starting C...and, as "salary filler" - he's still one of the most feared 3pt threats out there. I have him in a reserve role to supply legendary 3pt shooters at multiple points in the rotation.

ORDER of priorities in Trade #1
1) Defensive Center
2) Getting off of KCP's large salary while keeping Suggs and AB, who do the same things
3) Accidentally obtain one of the greatest 3pt shooters in history as salary filler

so the new starting center is exp contract cant rebound cant shoot outside of 3 ft ..never made a 3pt shot...can not play big min ..played more then 21 min a game one season and that was only 26 min...klay is washed so paying him on top of everything ...hmmm

getting out of kcp contract to pay a worse player in klay contract? kcp played 1 game with magic top 4 and 1 game with magic top 3 scorers and ended up shooting just under 35% from 3 by seasons end...i take the 3 mill extra and pay kcp every time
take chance he shoots mor and better from 3 on healthy magic team

[djguevara114]

[x]https://fanspo.com/nba/trades/_anahtAK1-6TNF[/x]

Decline options on Mo (plan to resign), (questionable to resign) Corey Joseph, and Caleb Houstan (questionable to resign). These moves, along with keeping the 16th Pick ($3,685,300 Y1 Salary), will allow us to stay under 1st Apron, prior to free agency to allow us more flexibility and use full MLE (most likely will not use all of it).


Vucevic / WCJ / Mo (Will probably be out until 2026)
Banchero / Isaac / FA
Franz / Johnson / Da Silva
Suggs / 16th Pick / FA
White / Black / FA

[RichCollab]

Less Ambitious/Costly version of above...

#1
ORL sends: KCP, Gary Harris, #25
DAL sends: Klay, Gafford

#2
ORL sends: Cole Anthony, Goga Bitadze, Jett Howard, #16
NOLA sends: CJ McCollum, Herb Jones
Why NOLA: get a young, inexpensive C to support and eventually backup Missi

ORL declines option on Moe Wagner and re-signs for $8m x 3years, declines TO on Houstan

Gafford, WCJ, (Moe)
Paolo, Jones, Isaac
Franz, Isaac, TdS
Suggs, Thompson, Jones/TdS
McCollum, AB, CoJo

Frontcourt actually gets much better defensively, backcourt and wings get much better offensively. Herb Jones is a real X-factor...large, mobile 3&D player who may be odd man out depending on NOLA's draft pick. Trey Murphy has exceeded Jones offensively and was given a bigger deal. Jones is on a very team-friendly deal for a guy that, at minimum, replaces KCP's production on both ends - in an even larger package.

You lost me at Klay.

Klay's not the point of #1 at all...he makes 2/3 of what KCP makes and he matches to get our new starting C...and, as "salary filler" - he's still one of the most feared 3pt threats out there. I have him in a reserve role to supply legendary 3pt shooters at multiple points in the rotation.

ORDER of priorities in Trade #1
1) Defensive Center
2) Getting off of KCP's large salary while keeping Suggs and AB, who do the same things
3) Accidentally obtain one of the greatest 3pt shooters in history as salary filler

I think I got food poisoning from your cooking on this one.