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Re: Official 2024-2025 Magic Trade ideas thread continued 

Post#4781 » by ogmagicfan » Mon May 12, 2025 4:45 pm

Magic_Johnny12 wrote:Maybe I’m a homer, but I really think we’re able to net a quality PG withOUT trading Suggs (or any of the core).

This is not to say Suggs is untouchable, but it would truly be a travesty if Weltman can’t pull something off with the tangible assets we currently have and we never get to see our homegrown players play with a PG that’s a difference maker.

Elite GM’s always find a way. It will cost us in draft equity of course, but for the right player it may be worth it.


I agree, but the problem is the cap situation

If we're not trading Suggs then we can either only trade for players who are on rookie contracts or reasonable extensions. Anyone for the price point like Garland wont be attainable. Also there will be potential depth questions

Moving Suggs isnt what I want to do, I absolutely love Suggs and I was a truther for him when most thought he was a bust. I love what he stands for and means for the team. It's what our hand is being forced to make.
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Post#4782 » by SOUL » Mon May 12, 2025 4:54 pm

There are a lot of players that can be traded before Suggs lol. He's also going to only be 15% of the cap in his age 26 year and 11% by 28.

This is all provided by injury concern stuff, obviously if you don't think he'd be available much, you'd seek trades.
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Post#4783 » by drsd » Mon May 12, 2025 5:11 pm

I just learned of a a 2023 CBA exemption that makes 2nd-round picks more valueable. It is called, "Second-round pick exception".

Here it is: "The second-round pick exception allows teams to sign their second-round draft picks for up to four years without counting against the cap until July 31 of the player's first season."

Very intersting.
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Post#4784 » by JoshuaPotter » Mon May 12, 2025 5:12 pm

I do not see Suggs being traded while he is injured. I can be wrong it is fine.

I would think that there "has to be a deal" out there so long as they don't remain sticklers for Paolo / Franz / Suggs / AB. IMHO anyone else I am ok with being departed.
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Post#4785 » by drsd » Mon May 12, 2025 5:15 pm

SOUL wrote:There are a lot of players that can be traded before Suggs lol. He's also going to only be 15% of the cap in his age 26 year and 11% by 28.

This is all provided by injury concern stuff, obviously if you don't think he'd be available much, you'd seek trades.


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Post#4786 » by mattorl1220 » Mon May 12, 2025 7:00 pm

Would you guys trade Franz JI Jett + 16 for Giannis? I legit think that is the best offer they could get.

I know the Magic would never do this but would you?

Suggs AB Cojo
KCP Cole Caleb
Paolo TDS
Giannis Moe
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Post#4787 » by MartinsIzAfraud » Mon May 12, 2025 7:04 pm

mattorl1220 wrote:Would you guys trade Franz JI Jett + 16 for Giannis? I legit think that is the best offer they could get.

I know the Magic would never do this but would you?

Suggs AB Cojo
KCP Cole Caleb
Paolo TDS
Giannis Moe
WCJ Goga


Houton/San Antonio can easily beat that offer.
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Post#4788 » by Magic_Johnny12 » Mon May 12, 2025 7:14 pm

mattorl1220 wrote:Would you guys trade Franz JI Jett + 16 for Giannis? I legit think that is the best offer they could get.

I know the Magic would never do this but would you?

Suggs AB Cojo
KCP Cole Caleb
Paolo TDS
Giannis Moe
WCJ Goga


Nah. It would immediately put us in contention mode and gives us a small two season window to win a championship which seems very unrealistic (Giannis can will opt out in 2027).

Don’t think our brass has the cojones to try and I don’t blame them tbh.

If OKC loses they should do everything in their power to get him. Shi, they should probably do it regardless lol
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Post#4789 » by VFX » Mon May 12, 2025 7:29 pm

mattorl1220 wrote:Would you guys trade Franz JI Jett + 16 for Giannis? I legit think that is the best offer they could get.

I know the Magic would never do this but would you?

Suggs AB Cojo
KCP Cole Caleb
Paolo TDS
Giannis Moe
WCJ Goga


No.

And Paolo can barely guard wings.
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Post#4790 » by Knightro » Mon May 12, 2025 8:18 pm

I would play Giannis at center and just run uber small ball.
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Post#4791 » by eyriq » Mon May 12, 2025 8:33 pm

mattorl1220 wrote:Would you guys trade Franz JI Jett + 16 for Giannis? I legit think that is the best offer they could get.

I know the Magic would never do this but would you?

Suggs AB Cojo
KCP Cole Caleb
Paolo TDS
Giannis Moe
WCJ Goga
Nope
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Post#4792 » by basketballRob » Mon May 12, 2025 9:09 pm

It's possible we could get FVV out of a Giannis deal. I would imagine the Bucks would want picks over FVV. Green would potentially be available. Vassell might be available if he goes to the Spurs.

Miami is a wildcard. I heard Kushner's brother just bought a piece of the Heat, and they have deep pockets. I'm sure Miami would leave us out of that deal.


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Post#4793 » by dsg2021 » Mon May 12, 2025 9:13 pm

Knightro wrote:I would play Giannis at center and just run uber small ball.


To me, Giannis plays as a Center already in my eyes. That's what he looks like to me. If I got him in ORL, he would be my Center. He beats WCJ and most other Centers (so no knock on WCJ) in every Center type category of assessment from height to defense to offense.

Paolo and Giannis would be super wild too. Double Paolo every game like last season? Good luck.
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Post#4794 » by AdamTheGreek » Mon May 12, 2025 9:14 pm

mattorl1220 wrote:Would you guys trade Franz JI Jett + 16 for Giannis? I legit think that is the best offer they could get.

I know the Magic would never do this but would you?

Suggs AB Cojo
KCP Cole Caleb
Paolo TDS
Giannis Moe
WCJ Goga


No, you do not trade Paolo or Franz.

We can get Gianni with trading Suggs if he wants to come here.
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Post#4795 » by BadMofoPimp » Mon May 12, 2025 9:24 pm

AdamTheGreek wrote:
mattorl1220 wrote:Would you guys trade Franz JI Jett + 16 for Giannis? I legit think that is the best offer they could get.

I know the Magic would never do this but would you?

Suggs AB Cojo
KCP Cole Caleb
Paolo TDS
Giannis Moe
WCJ Goga


No, you do not trade Paolo or Franz.

We can get Gianni with trading Suggs if he wants to come here.


OKC and Houston can offer 4 1sts. Magic have zero shot at Giannis. Fun pipe dreams tho.
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Post#4796 » by AdamTheGreek » Mon May 12, 2025 9:31 pm

BadMofoPimp wrote:
AdamTheGreek wrote:
mattorl1220 wrote:Would you guys trade Franz JI Jett + 16 for Giannis? I legit think that is the best offer they could get.

I know the Magic would never do this but would you?

Suggs AB Cojo
KCP Cole Caleb
Paolo TDS
Giannis Moe
WCJ Goga


No, you do not trade Paolo or Franz.

We can get Gianni with trading Suggs if he wants to come here.


OKC and Houston can offer 4 1sts. Magic have zero shot at Giannis. Fun pipe dreams tho.


I believe we can also offer 4 1sts, and two pick swaps.

Gianni holds the leverage.
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Post#4797 » by eyriq » Mon May 12, 2025 11:08 pm

Orlando Magic Receive:

Giannis Antetokounmpo (PF/C)
Estimated Salary: ~$62,245,337 (including trade kicker)



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Milwaukee Bucks Receive:

Jalen Suggs (SG) — $35,000,000

Jonathan Isaac (PF) — $15,000,000

Cole Anthony (PG) — $13,100,000


Total Incoming Salary: $63,100,000


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Draft Compensation to Milwaukee:

2025 First-Round Pick (Orlando)

2025 First-Round Pick via Denver (Top-5 Protected)

2027 First-Round Pick (Orlando, Unprotected)

2029 First-Round Pick (Orlando, Unprotected)

2026 First-Round Pick Swap Rights (Orlando to Milwaukee)

2028 First-Round Pick Swap Rights (Orlando to Milwaukee)
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Post#4798 » by MasterGMer » Mon May 12, 2025 11:47 pm

eyriq wrote:Orlando Magic Receive:

Giannis Antetokounmpo (PF/C)
Estimated Salary: ~$62,245,337 (including trade kicker)



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Milwaukee Bucks Receive:

Jalen Suggs (SG) — $35,000,000

Jonathan Isaac (PF) — $15,000,000

Cole Anthony (PG) — $13,100,000


Total Incoming Salary: $63,100,000


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Draft Compensation to Milwaukee:

2025 First-Round Pick (Orlando)

2025 First-Round Pick via Denver (Top-5 Protected)

2027 First-Round Pick (Orlando, Unprotected)

2029 First-Round Pick (Orlando, Unprotected)

2026 First-Round Pick Swap Rights (Orlando to Milwaukee)

2028 First-Round Pick Swap Rights (Orlando to Milwaukee)


This will be really interesting. I see Giannis at Center spot for us if he does come here. I am not shipping Paolo. But will it happen? I don't know
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Post#4799 » by yoyojw17 » Tue May 13, 2025 12:58 am

https://www.si.com/nba/magic/magic-predicted-to-land-175-million-disgruntled-superstar-in-trade-costing-significant-depth-01jv0xcnehej

Hahaha .... Not sure this would have EVER worked. But you'll know I love black and jett..... But I'm showing up at their houses with the movers. Lol

Needless to say.... With Dallas and San Antonio winning the draft..... Freak freak night be heading to one of them this off-season
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Post#4800 » by Skybox » Tue May 13, 2025 1:21 am

yoyojw17 wrote:https://www.si.com/nba/magic/magic-predicted-to-land-175-million-disgruntled-superstar-in-trade-costing-significant-depth-01jv0xcnehej

Hahaha .... Not sure this would have EVER worked. But you'll know I love black and jett..... But I'm showing up at their houses with the movers. Lol

Needless to say.... With Dallas and San Antonio winning the draft..... Freak freak night be heading to one of them this off-season


That proposal would get that guy kicked out of RealGM…hard to believe it’s associated with SI…how the mighty (media) have fallen.

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