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Re: Official 2023-2024 Magic General Season Thread 

Post#481 » by basketballRob » Fri Dec 29, 2023 3:15 pm

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That’s what might happen if you are reached for over more qualified players because you happen to be slightly taller and went to ownerships favorite school.


I'm not sure others would have more chances to prove themselfs due our construction & fact Franz & Banchero want to make playoffs, but Jett Howard simply wasn't BPA at that point in draft. Just like Okeke wasn't.


Odd, I am not detecting any lies.

Lively, K. George, C. Whitmore, at least today are all doing better. Now we can debate and argue fitment. Beyond some of these picks, it becomes a wash. Dick, is an excellent example of where I was absolutely wrong.
Whitmore and Keyonte aren't doing better than Black. Black has been a slightly better defender than Lively.

We really don't know what kind of impact Jett will have.

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Post#482 » by JoshuaPotter » Fri Dec 29, 2023 4:06 pm

p0peye wrote:As long as we pay him as 15 min backup that plays 50% games per season, I am willing to offer him another 2 years contract. He is definitively a positive on the court when he plays in those limited minutes, but he is not a part of the plan.

So, that is my perspective as a fan of the team who prioritizes team success. If I was Isaac's friend or relative, I would probably caution him against playing for he might risk further injuries that could affect his quality of life.


Kinda backwards of your team success priority to sign a guy who may not play for said team.

As I stated before. Nobody is questioning Isaac can ball when he is on the court.

But what good is he is he doesn't crack the playoff rotation due to injury? Do we just hope that we have the depth to make it work?

Alternatively, I am with you. If I am family of Isaac. I am telling and begging him to retire before his injuries seriously impact his quality of life. If they haven't already.
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Re: Official 2023-2024 Magic General Season Thread 

Post#483 » by eyriq » Fri Dec 29, 2023 4:39 pm

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I'm not sure others would have more chances to prove themselfs due our construction & fact Franz & Banchero want to make playoffs, but Jett Howard simply wasn't BPA at that point in draft. Just like Okeke wasn't.


Odd, I am not detecting any lies.

Lively, K. George, C. Whitmore, at least today are all doing better. Now we can debate and argue fitment. Beyond some of these picks, it becomes a wash. Dick, is an excellent example of where I was absolutely wrong.
Whitmore and Keyonte aren't doing better than Black. Black has been a slightly better defender than Lively.

We really don't know what kind of impact Jett will have.

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Black is flying under the radar because he's the 5th option in a starting lineup. His defense is legit though and he's doing his job admirably.

I'd like to see his minutes increase and his responsibilities expand.
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Re: Official 2023-2024 Magic General Season Thread 

Post#484 » by basketballRob » Fri Dec 29, 2023 4:46 pm

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JoshuaPotter wrote:
Odd, I am not detecting any lies.

Lively, K. George, C. Whitmore, at least today are all doing better. Now we can debate and argue fitment. Beyond some of these picks, it becomes a wash. Dick, is an excellent example of where I was absolutely wrong.
Whitmore and Keyonte aren't doing better than Black. Black has been a slightly better defender than Lively.

We really don't know what kind of impact Jett will have.

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Black is flying under the radar because he's the 5th option in a starting lineup. His defense is legit though and he's doing his job admirably.

I'd like to see his minutes increase and his responsibilities expand.
If we clinch a spot with a couple of games left, they'll probably give him the green light to shoot as much as he wants. Jamal Murray was near the same age as AB in his rookie season, averaged 9.9 ppg, but had a 27 pt and 30 pt games in the last 5 games of the season.


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Re: Official 2023-2024 Magic General Season Thread 

Post#485 » by p0peye » Fri Dec 29, 2023 4:59 pm

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p0peye wrote:As long as we pay him as 15 min backup that plays 50% games per season, I am willing to offer him another 2 years contract. He is definitively a positive on the court when he plays in those limited minutes, but he is not a part of the plan.

So, that is my perspective as a fan of the team who prioritizes team success. If I was Isaac's friend or relative, I would probably caution him against playing for he might risk further injuries that could affect his quality of life.


Kinda backwards of your team success priority to sign a guy who may not play for said team.

As I stated before. Nobody is questioning Isaac can ball when he is on the court.

But what good is he is he doesn't crack the playoff rotation due to injury? Do we just hope that we have the depth to make it work?

Alternatively, I am with you. If I am family of Isaac. I am telling and begging him to retire before his injuries seriously impact his quality of life. If they haven't already.


There's no harm if he is not financial burden. As I have said, he is definitive positive when he plays and we should offer him 2 years contract that Jeff Green, Danilo Gallinari or Moe Wagner have.
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Re: Official 2023-2024 Magic General Season Thread 

Post#486 » by Blue_and_Whte » Sat Dec 30, 2023 5:36 am

Who is the morbidly obese man with the beard who has floor seats? I believe he has a Filipino (?) wife.
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Post#487 » by RookieStar » Sat Dec 30, 2023 5:41 am

Blue_and_Whte wrote:Who is the morbidly obese man with the beard who has floor seats? I believe he has a Filipino (?) wife.


???? Is he like a superfan for the Magic?
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Post#488 » by basketballRob » Sat Dec 30, 2023 11:45 am

EPM Leaders. If we have our top 10 EPM players healthy, we can compete with any team.

Goga 3.5
Suggs 3.2
Franz 2.7
Banchero 0.5
Isaac 0.2
Moe -0.7
Black -1.0
Ingles -1.0
Harris-1.1
Cole -1.1
Carter -2.1
Fultz -2.2
Houstan -4.3


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Post#489 » by VFX » Sat Dec 30, 2023 1:12 pm

Blue_and_Whte wrote:Who is the morbidly obese man with the beard who has floor seats? I believe he has a Filipino (?) wife.


I also wondered this. I’ve also seen him travel to away games and get the same floor seats.
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Post#490 » by basketballRob » Sat Dec 30, 2023 1:20 pm

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Blue_and_Whte wrote:Who is the morbidly obese man with the beard who has floor seats? I believe he has a Filipino (?) wife.


I also wondered this. I’ve also seen him travel to away games and get the same floor seats.
If he can afford floor seats like that, he should get some Ozempic. I've heard that with no insurance, it costs around $800 a month, but he'd probably lose 50 lbs in a year.

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Re: Official 2023-2024 Magic General Season Thread 

Post#491 » by The-Stallion70 » Sat Dec 30, 2023 5:18 pm

Excuse me?? Cole got a haircut!? WHAT!! I dont like it

What are we gonna do without the predator on our team
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Re: Official 2023-2024 Magic General Season Thread 

Post#492 » by 3ddman23 » Sat Dec 30, 2023 5:22 pm

So with annunoby going to the knicks do they leap frog us now? I really think the magic should make a move to supplement paolo and franz better.
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Post#493 » by cedric76 » Sat Dec 30, 2023 6:28 pm

3ddman23 wrote:So with annunoby going to the knicks do they leap frog us now? I really think the magic should make a move to supplement paolo and franz better.



Bring Jett:-)
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Post#494 » by basketballRob » Sat Dec 30, 2023 6:38 pm

3ddman23 wrote:So with annunoby going to the knicks do they leap frog us now? I really think the magic should make a move to supplement paolo and franz better.
I'm just worried about retaining Goga at a reasonable salary next season. The Knicks will have some cap room after this trade.

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Post#495 » by richi_v25 » Sat Dec 30, 2023 7:03 pm

Blue_and_Whte wrote:Who is the morbidly obese man with the beard who has floor seats? I believe he has a Filipino (?) wife.


I've wondered that all year, he sits next to the players every game even some road games. He's living a good life, good for him.
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Post#496 » by Bakomagic » Sat Dec 30, 2023 8:15 pm

3ddman23 wrote:So with annunoby going to the knicks do they leap frog us now? I really think the magic should make a move to supplement paolo and franz better.



Maybe, but they gave up IQ and RJ Barret, so they lose some too in terms of scoring depth. If they could’ve pushed for the addition of Poetl it would’ve been a home run.

For the people interested in IQ this offseason this may make this less likely as Toronto probably expects a fair chance of resigning him since they traded for him.
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Post#497 » by cedric76 » Sat Dec 30, 2023 8:43 pm

Og and IQ off the table now
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Post#498 » by KillMonger » Sun Dec 31, 2023 2:26 am

Jett Howard solid outing, 30 points.... Watching his game few things stood out.... The defense definitely is the weak point but it's nothing that can't be coached.... Few missed rotations and was a step late a few times but had some good closeouts as well.... What I'm trying to figure out is how Caleb is getting minutes over jett...

Jett in this game hit 3s standstill, off the dribble, contested... He hit midrange.... He attacked the rim and had some contested finishes at the rim.... Had some nice reads, nice passes for assists... Showed 3 level potential... He can give you more offensively than Caleb who I've only ever seen him attempt stand still 3s.... He's way more limited offensively than jett it's almost a joke..... Is it really just the defense that's the determining factor?

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Post#499 » by RichCollab » Sun Dec 31, 2023 2:32 am

KillMonger wrote:Jett Howard solid outing, 30 points.... Watching his game few things stood out.... The defense definitely is the weak point but it's nothing that can't be coached.... Few missed rotations and was a step late a few times but had some good closeouts as well.... What I'm trying to figure out is how Caleb is getting minutes over jett...

Jett in this game hit 3s standstill, off the dribble, contested... He hit midrange.... He attacked the rim and had some contested finishes at the rim.... Had some nice reads, nice passes for assists... Showed 3 level potential... He can give you more offensively than Caleb who I've only ever seen him attempt stand still 3s.... He's way more limited offensively than jett it's almost a joke..... Is it really just the defense that's the determining factor?

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I would say defense and rebounding. Caleb earned his time in practice.

I’m fine Jett getting reps in G-League. We care about hustle plays and defense so Jett may not even be close to minutes.
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Post#500 » by KillMonger » Sun Dec 31, 2023 2:40 am

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KillMonger wrote:Jett Howard solid outing, 30 points.... Watching his game few things stood out.... The defense definitely is the weak point but it's nothing that can't be coached.... Few missed rotations and was a step late a few times but had some good closeouts as well.... What I'm trying to figure out is how Caleb is getting minutes over jett...

Jett in this game hit 3s standstill, off the dribble, contested... He hit midrange.... He attacked the rim and had some contested finishes at the rim.... Had some nice reads, nice passes for assists... Showed 3 level potential... He can give you more offensively than Caleb who I've only ever seen him attempt stand still 3s.... He's way more limited offensively than jett it's almost a joke..... Is it really just the defense that's the determining factor?

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I would say defense and rebounding. Caleb earned his time in practice.

I’m fine Jett getting reps in G-League. We care about hustle plays and defense so Jett may not even be close to minutes.
I get what you're saying but defense and rebounds isn't why we have Caleb out there..... He's a shooter, offense is what we need from him, it's what he was drafted for.... Defense and rebounds is the last thing I think of when I think of Caleb.... Personally I don't think he's a good defender, he's ok to me.....I just wish there was a bit more progression in Caleb's game, he's the same as last year just a bit less streaky

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