Official Summer 2024 Magic Free Agency and Trade Ideas Thread 6.0

[Skybox]

Just to clear up misconceptions about what position AB plays.

B-R play by play data:
PG: 68%, SG: 30%, SF: 2%

Top 5 AB lineups:
AB/Suggs/Franz/Paolo/Goga
AB/Cole/Ingles/JI/Moe
AB/Suggs/Franz/Paolo/WCJ
AB/Harris/Franz/Paolo/Goga
AB/Harris/Franz/Paolo/WCJ

It's a misconception that he isn't a PG and didn't play the position as a rookie. He was the top NCAA PG prospect in his draft, was drafted to replace Fultz, Orlando's starting PG at the time, and played the position as a rookie.

Our playmakers were Franz and Paolo, that was the offense. It is what it is, and it seems to confuse people about what position AB plays. I hope this straightforward argument helps.

It really doesn’t…demonstrating some PG skills next year would.

[JRoy]

I figure Brogdon as a late FRP at best from a contender and or more likely multiple SRP and flawed young guys.

Simons shouldn’t draw primo assets as he isn’t one himself. Other team absorbing salary, sending a pick and a lesser player gets it done.

You think one pick would get it done for Simons? Because if so...

I think so.

I’m sure they will ask for more.

[Skybox]

Why do people plug AB into SF minutes? Is it so everything works conveniently in proposed lineups?

Trying to find minutes for a “PG” who hasn’t yet shown PG skills. Luckily, he’s 6’7 and can defend 1-3, so we can find more and more opportunities for him until he’s ready to lead. In the meantime, ORL is too good to just hand him the keys (yet) and has the means to find someone ready now…hopefully, he’ll be a PG someday…but right now, I just want to get him on the floor - contributing any way he can…he looks more like an Ingles-type Point Forward than any other starting level PGs.

[Knightro]

Just to clear up misconceptions about what position AB plays.

B-R play by play data:
PG: 68%, SG: 30%, SF: 2%

Top 5 AB lineups:
AB/Suggs/Franz/Paolo/Goga
AB/Cole/Ingles/JI/Moe
AB/Suggs/Franz/Paolo/WCJ
AB/Harris/Franz/Paolo/Goga
AB/Harris/Franz/Paolo/WCJ

It's a misconception that he isn't a PG and didn't play the position as a rookie. He was the top NCAA PG prospect in his draft, was drafted to replace Fultz, Orlando's starting PG at the time, and played the position as a rookie.

Our playmakers were Franz and Paolo, that was the offense. It is what it is, and it seems to confuse people about what position AB plays. I hope this straightforward argument helps.

There's a difference between ostensibly being the "point guard" and actually performing literally any of the duties of a point guard.

Black barely dribbled the basketball period. Much less created offense off the dribble for himself or other people.

[Driguez]

AB is a PG, not a SG not a Forward he is a PG. I seen too many posts with players assigned a random position just to make it work. The “positionless basketball” excuse needs to be toned down.

[eyriq]

LOL

Read on Twitter

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[pepe1991]

In perfect scenario Magic find starting level PG on some 3 years contract and play Black as backup PG. If he shows he can take over within 2 years, you trade that starting PG away and start Black.

If something goes wrong, simply trade Black while he is on rookie deal contract for player of need ( Caruso- Giddey type trade).


I know Magic won't do any of it because Weltman is anything but proactive and is almost always one year too late to everything.

[fendilim]

Just to clear up misconceptions about what position AB plays.

B-R play by play data:
PG: 68%, SG: 30%, SF: 2%

Top 5 AB lineups:
AB/Suggs/Franz/Paolo/Goga
AB/Cole/Ingles/JI/Moe
AB/Suggs/Franz/Paolo/WCJ
AB/Harris/Franz/Paolo/Goga
AB/Harris/Franz/Paolo/WCJ

It's a misconception that he isn't a PG and didn't play the position as a rookie. He was the top NCAA PG prospect in his draft, was drafted to replace Fultz, Orlando's starting PG at the time, and played the position as a rookie.

Our playmakers were Franz and Paolo, that was the offense. It is what it is, and it seems to confuse people about what position AB plays. I hope this straightforward argument helps.

It really doesn’t…demonstrating some PG skills next year would.

PG skills? Like what?

[fendilim]

AB is a PG, not a SG not a Forward he is a PG. I seen too many posts with players assigned a random position just to make it work. The “positionless basketball” excuse needs to be toned down.

Some people stuck in the past.

[MasterGMer]

Just to clear up misconceptions about what position AB plays.

B-R play by play data:
PG: 68%, SG: 30%, SF: 2%

Top 5 AB lineups:
AB/Suggs/Franz/Paolo/Goga
AB/Cole/Ingles/JI/Moe
AB/Suggs/Franz/Paolo/WCJ
AB/Harris/Franz/Paolo/Goga
AB/Harris/Franz/Paolo/WCJ

It's a misconception that he isn't a PG and didn't play the position as a rookie. He was the top NCAA PG prospect in his draft, was drafted to replace Fultz, Orlando's starting PG at the time, and played the position as a rookie.

Our playmakers were Franz and Paolo, that was the offense. It is what it is, and it seems to confuse people about what position AB plays. I hope this straightforward argument helps.

There's a difference between ostensibly being the "point guard" and actually performing literally any of the duties of a point guard.

Black barely dribbled the basketball period. Much less created offense off the dribble for himself or other people.

I know Black had any offensive duties on the team last season. But he was a rookie. Suggs was shooting way worse than AB did in his rookie season. I am not too worried his offensive output because next year it is going to get better. What I am worried for AB is his growth and confidence overall. Hope he works hard this offseason and I am very optimistic he will be a very important part of our future success in the future!

[Viper1500]

Weltman live on YouTube now

[Skybox]

Just thinking...the fact that BRK hasn't already announced a new contract for Claxton means he COULD still hit the market. I assume BRK is just going to throw $25m at him and end the conversation before it gets started, but...

I just think the opportunity and fit are amazing in ORL. I don't want to overpay, but we are in position to front load a descending deal that would make the impact in a couple of years not so detrimental.

*AFTER we find our starting Lead Guard (preferably via trade to best manage cap)

[MartinsIzAfraud]

Weltman live on YouTube now

he's so good at talking in circles

[bigdogdylan5]

In perfect scenario Magic find starting level PG on some 3 years contract and play Black as backup PG. If he shows he can take over within 2 years, you trade that starting PG away and start Black.

If something goes wrong, simply trade Black while he is on rookie deal contract for player of need ( Caruso- Giddey type trade).


I know Magic won't do any of it because Weltman is anything but proactive and is almost always one year too late to everything.

Who is that point guard? Also to make that Giddey Caruso trade you need to play him to get his value up for that to even happen.

[eyriq]

Just thinking...the fact that BRK hasn't already announced a new contract for Claxton means he COULD still hit the market. I assume BRK is just going to throw $25m at him and end the conversation before it gets started, but...

I just think the opportunity and fit are amazing in ORL. I don't want to overpay, but we are in position to front load a descending deal that would make the impact in a couple of years not so detrimental.

*AFTER we find our starting Lead Guard (preferably via trade to best manage cap)

I really hope Claxton hits the market. I'm torn between him or Klay in terms of fit. Klay provides veteran leadership in a critical role that we lack, while Claxton provides an upgrade over Goga as a rim protecting, aggressive big.

[Knightro]

I'm probably looking for stuff to be sour about, but just listening to Weltman talk annoys me at this point.

[MagicTownBaller]

What did Weltman say?

[Knightro]

What did Weltman say?

Watch on YouTube

[eyriq]

What did Weltman say?

- Focused on developing players and integrating them into the team effectively
- Draft strategy is focused on the best player available while addressing team needs
- Free agency will be focused on veterans whose experience will help with player development

[JoshuaPotter]

What did Weltman say?

- Focused on developing players and integrating them into the team effectively
- Draft strategy is focused on the best player available while addressing team needs
- Free agency will be focused on veterans whose experience will help with player development

Statement
- Focused on developing players and integrating them into the team effectively
What is means
- No free agency splash

Statement
- Draft strategy is focused on the best player available while addressing team needs
What is means
- We will all be baffled except for Eyriq and JoshuaPotter who know its a draft and stash player.

Statement
- Free agency will be focused on veterans whose experience will help with player development
What is means
- Gary Harris & Fultz.