Official 2024-2025 Magic Trade ideas thread continued

[CLosP]

https://www.si.com/nba/magic/magic-predicted-to-land-175-million-disgruntled-superstar-in-trade-costing-significant-depth-01jv0xcnehej

Hahaha .... Not sure this would have EVER worked. But you'll know I love black and jett..... But I'm showing up at their houses with the movers. Lol

Needless to say.... With Dallas and San Antonio winning the draft..... Freak freak night be heading to one of them this off-season

I would personally be there to wave these guys goodbye if this is all that is needed to be traded lol:

Bucks receive: Jonathan Isaac, Cole Anthony, Mo Wagner, Anthony Black, Jett Howard, Caleb Houston, 2025 first-round pick (via Nuggets), 2028 first-round pick, 2030 first-round pick, 2027 first-round swap option

[ogmagicfan]

With how the Spurs are gearing up to be elite, we need to have a team that can beat them

[Skybox]

SAS sends: #2, Vassell, Keldon Johnson
ORL sends: Franz Wagner, Moe Wagner, #25

TOR sends: Poeltl
ORL sends: KCP, #16

Draft best big man available at #46


Poeltl, WCJ, Isaac
Paolo, WCJ, Isaac
Vassell, KJ, TdS
Suggs, AB, TdS
Harper, Cole, CoJo

[Bakomagic]

SAS sends: #2, Vassell, Keldon Johnson
ORL sends: Franz Wagner, Moe Wagner, #25

TOR sends: Poeltl
ORL sends: KCP, #16

Draft best big man available at #46


Poeltl, WCJ, Isaac
Paolo, WCJ, Isaac
Vassell, KJ, TdS
Suggs, AB, TdS
Harper, Cole, CoJo

I’d think about this. Doesn’t fit the “win now” motto that we have this offseason necessarily but Harper could be a better fit and in a couple of years as he could replace the 20pt a game scorer role that Franz plays while doing it with better shooting and playmaking. Then add Vassel and you really have some fire power and spacing in the starting lineup next to Paolo.

Prefer going after a Jarret Allen though, I’d send KCP and our 1st for him. Then trade Cole and a 2nd rounder in a sign and trade for Malcolm Brogdon

Harper/Brogdon/CoJo
Suggs/AB/Jett
Vassel/TDS
P5/JI
J.Allen/WCjr/Goga

[RookieStar]

SAS sends: #2, Vassell, Keldon Johnson
ORL sends: Franz Wagner, Moe Wagner, #25

TOR sends: Poeltl
ORL sends: KCP, #16

Draft best big man available at #46


Poeltl, WCJ, Isaac
Paolo, WCJ, Isaac
Vassell, KJ, TdS
Suggs, AB, TdS
Harper, Cole, CoJo

What? The #2 pick isnprojected to be better than Franz??

[dsg2021]

https://www.si.com/nba/magic/magic-predicted-to-land-175-million-disgruntled-superstar-in-trade-costing-significant-depth-01jv0xcnehej

Hahaha .... Not sure this would have EVER worked. But you'll know I love black and jett..... But I'm showing up at their houses with the movers. Lol

Needless to say.... With Dallas and San Antonio winning the draft..... Freak freak night be heading to one of them this off-season

I would personally be there to wave these guys goodbye if this is all that is needed to be traded lol:

Bucks receive: Jonathan Isaac, Cole Anthony, Mo Wagner, Anthony Black, Jett Howard, Caleb Houston, 2025 first-round pick (via Nuggets), 2028 first-round pick, 2030 first-round pick, 2027 first-round swap option

[drsd]

a) it is mathemtaclly impossible to have three max players in this CBA; so F-Wganer or Banchero would have to be in any Antetokounmpo trade.
b) F-Wagner and Antetokounmpo suffer from the same one problem keeping them both from being "perfect" players: horrible three-point shooting percentage. And thus this is actually a bit of a lateral move.

In conclusion, can we go back to serious trade ideas please?

Dual SnT of Harris for Kennard. Who can be against that???

[basketballRob]

SAS sends: #2, Vassell, Keldon Johnson
ORL sends: Franz Wagner, Moe Wagner, #25

TOR sends: Poeltl
ORL sends: KCP, #16

Draft best big man available at #46


Poeltl, WCJ, Isaac
Paolo, WCJ, Isaac
Vassell, KJ, TdS
Suggs, AB, TdS
Harper, Cole, CoJo

I think we overvalue draft picks.

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[basketballRob]

If Tatum is out next season, I'd call about White. We could be in the best position to land him. I'd be interested in Pritchard, too.

Cole, Jett, and 3 first round picks.



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[tiderulz]

If Tatum is out next season, I'd call about White. We could be in the best position to land him. I'd be interested in Pritchard, too.

Cole, Jett, and 3 first round picks.



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3 first round picks for 31 yr old White? he is a good player, but i dont think his value is that high. if he was 26-27 it might be different.

[jonbob17]

Orlando Magic Receive:

Giannis Antetokounmpo (PF/C)
Estimated Salary: ~$62,245,337 (including trade kicker)



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Milwaukee Bucks Receive:

Jalen Suggs (SG) — $35,000,000

Jonathan Isaac (PF) — $15,000,000

Cole Anthony (PG) — $13,100,000


Total Incoming Salary: $63,100,000


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Draft Compensation to Milwaukee:

2025 First-Round Pick (Orlando)

2025 First-Round Pick via Denver (Top-5 Protected)

2027 First-Round Pick (Orlando, Unprotected)

2029 First-Round Pick (Orlando, Unprotected)

2026 First-Round Pick Swap Rights (Orlando to Milwaukee)

2028 First-Round Pick Swap Rights (Orlando to Milwaukee)

I imagine someone would beat our offer for Giannis. I am still suffering from Magic shooting PTSD, but good lord we might not even attempt any threes with that team of forwads. With that said, i'd almost be willing to abandon team building to see something along the lines of:

Black
Franz
Paolo
Moe
Giannis

I guess teams would try and build a wall, but geez it would be a violent team in this age of delicacy.

[Knightro]

a) it is mathemtaclly impossible to have three max players in this CBA; so F-Wganer or Banchero would have to be in any Antetokounmpo trade.

This is decidedly not true.

Teams might decide it isn’t worth it to them to be deep into the 2nd apron, but there’s nothing actually stopping teams from doing it other than their own cheapness.

[jonbob17]

Boston had some tough decisions to make this offseason. I wonder if the Tatum injury further complicates their path. I am certainly not suggesting the Magic pursue Tatum, but we could help facilitate a deal with a third team.

[cedric76]

Boston had some tough decisions to make this offseason. I wonder if the Tatum injury further complicates their path. I am certainly not suggesting the Magic pursue Tatum, but we could help facilitate a deal with a third team.

What happening to Boston is the REASON WHY, we have to build our team using the following contract structure: viewtopic.php?f=25&t=2456884

The guard we ll go after this summer shouldnt make more than 12% of our cap in 2027, so trading for a guard that would make 20-25M by then is KEY

If we trade for Simons, sexton and other names mentioned on this board, we need to be sure that we can extend them (resign them) for that amount

[OrlandoDream]

Calling Boston on Paytron Pritchard intrigues me. Productive starting level PG on a under-market value contract. Will cost us a solid FRP but I think worth it.

[Magic_Johnny12]

Calling Boston on Paytron Pritchard intrigues me. Productive starting level PG on a under-market value contract. Will cost us a solid FRP but I think worth it.

With their inevitable roster makeover due to tax/apron implications players like Pritchard are vital to a team like that. Similar to the same argument some of us have about Black. Don’t see Payton being moved at all, not because he’s untouchable but his production for his salary is too important to cap management.

[Magic_Johnny12]

If Tatum is out next season, I'd call about White. We could be in the best position to land him. I'd be interested in Pritchard, too.

Cole, Jett, and 3 first round picks.



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3 first round picks for 31 yr old White? he is a good player, but i dont think his value is that high. if he was 26-27 it might be different.

I mean his play isn’t built around athleticism so 31 isn’t terribly old.

And it really depends on what picks are being dealt.

If it’s 16/25/PHX swap then you do this trade without any hesitation.

If Orlando is genuinely considering older vets like McCollum, FVV (apparently they were interested in Lillard) then you absolutely need to consider a player like White.

Now if we are talking about x3 lightly protected future picks then I would agree.

[IllMagic04]

Is there a Kevin Durrant deal that exist for us? I went on trade machine, but I couldn't make the money work. The framework would have to be JI, KCP Black and pick(s)

[Skybox]

SAS sends: #2, Vassell, Keldon Johnson
ORL sends: Franz Wagner, Moe Wagner, #25

TOR sends: Poeltl
ORL sends: KCP, #16

Draft best big man available at #46


Poeltl, WCJ, Isaac
Paolo, WCJ, Isaac
Vassell, KJ, TdS
Suggs, AB, TdS
Harper, Cole, CoJo

I’d think about this. Doesn’t fit the “win now” motto that we have this offseason necessarily but Harper could be a better fit and in a couple of years as he could replace the 20pt a game scorer role that Franz plays while doing it with better shooting and playmaking. Then add Vassel and you really have some fire power and spacing in the starting lineup next to Paolo.

Prefer going after a Jarret Allen though, I’d send KCP and our 1st for him. Then trade Cole and a 2nd rounder in a sign and trade for Malcolm Brogdon

Harper/Brogdon/CoJo
Suggs/AB/Jett
Vassel/TDS
P5/JI
J.Allen/WCjr/Goga

I'd prefer Jarrett Allen as well, but KCP and a frp won't be close to getting that done....Brogdon has been off the radar. It makes NO sense that WAS didn't unload him for anything at the TD...I'm thinking he's toast or we'd be reading more about him. A healthy Brogdon is better than all of the guys we typically throw around here...but there's no such thing apparently.

[Skybox]

If Tatum is out next season, I'd call about White. We could be in the best position to land him. I'd be interested in Pritchard, too.

Cole, Jett, and 3 first round picks.



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Sounds great, but check your math...White makes $28m next year...and don't say "+ filler" because you only offered filler.

I don't see BOS going nuclear or moving White, but...

ORL sends: KCP, WCJ, Black, #16, ORL 26 frp (Top 5)
BOS sends: White, Hauser, #28

BOS sleeps and heals for a year, Porzingis comes off the books next summer...big move at TD

or...

ORL sends: Jalen Suggs, #16, ORL 26 frp (top 5)
BOS sends: White, Hauser