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BadMofoPimp wrote:For the Magic to accept a deal this BAD, the NBA and David Stern had to have made a kick back of like a couple hundred million dollars to Devos. Had to. I don't see no other reason that Devos would gift wrap Dwight for the Lakers for garbage. Especially after losing Shaq to the Lakers and what that did the Magic organization. NBA is rigged.
AussieMagicFan wrote:Alex Kennedy knows the score:
The Magic didn’t want to be a borderline playoff team. Rather than bringing in veterans who would keep the team competitive and land the eighth seed in the East, Orlando is going to throw their young guys out there and let them develop. They’re probably going to be a bad team for a few years, but they’re fine with that. They’ll get a couple lottery picks in a row and then have cap space in 2014. Remember, Rob Hennigan comes from the Oklahoma City Thunder organization, where they sucked their way to Kevin Durant, Russell Westbrook and James Harden. He wants to do something similar in Orlando. In the short-term, it’s frustrating for Magic fans. However, it may pay off in a few years if they make the right moves. The Magic will have their lottery picks to use in addition to all of the picks they acquired in this trade. Throw in the cap room and the young players they landed like Afflalo, Harkless, Vucevic and Eyenga and Orlando may have a brighter future than people think.
One thing to keep in mind about the offer from the Houston Rockets: It wasn’t as attractive as reports have indicated. The Rockets weren’t willing to give up all of the picks and prospects in addition to taking back Orlando’s bad contracts. It was one or the other. If Houston was giving away their prospects, they weren’t taking back bad contracts. If they were taking back bad contracts, they weren’t giving away their prospects. Without a long-term commitment from Dwight Howard, the Rockets weren’t willing to potentially ruin their future by giving away all of their prospects and taking back ugly deals. Houston wasn’t going to put themselves in a position where if Howard left after the season, they’d be stuck with bad contracts and have zero young players to build around. In recent months, reports have made it sound like Houston’s offer was the perfect deal for Orlando, but the Rockets were never going to give up everything and take back all of Orlando’s garbage.
The Magic are going to get worse in the short-term, but this trade gives them a lot of flexibility going forward. They wanted draft picks and prospects in exchange for Dwight Howard and that’s what they got in this deal. They may be a terrible team for a few years, but they’re alright with that. They’ll get a few lottery picks and they’ll have all of the first-round picks they acquired in this deal to wheel and deal on draft night. Also, they’ll have enough cap room to hand out two maximum contracts in 2014, when LeBron James, Dwyane Wade, Carmelo Anthony, Kobe Bryant Dirk Nowitzki, Amar’e Stoudemire, Chris Bosh, Pau Gasol, Paul Pierce, Danny Granger, Luol Deng, Rudy Gay, Zach Randolph and Andrew Bogut can become free agents. This move looks bad for Orlando today, but it may look better in a few years.
Cigamodnalro wrote:recko321 wrote:someone needs to do a depth chart right now also
Magic Roster
C: Nikola Vucevic, Gustavo Ayon, Kyle O'Quinn
PF: Glen Davis, Al Harrington, Andrew Nicholson, Josh McRoberts, Justin Harper
SF: Moe Harkless, Hedo Turkoglu, Quentin Richardson, Christian Eyenga
SG: Aaron Afflalo, JJ Redick
PG: Jameer Nelson
Orlando Tragic wrote:AussieMagicFan wrote:Alex Kennedy knows the score:
The Magic didn’t want to be a borderline playoff team. Rather than bringing in veterans who would keep the team competitive and land the eighth seed in the East, Orlando is going to throw their young guys out there and let them develop. They’re probably going to be a bad team for a few years, but they’re fine with that. They’ll get a couple lottery picks in a row and then have cap space in 2014. Remember, Rob Hennigan comes from the Oklahoma City Thunder organization, where they sucked their way to Kevin Durant, Russell Westbrook and James Harden. He wants to do something similar in Orlando. In the short-term, it’s frustrating for Magic fans. However, it may pay off in a few years if they make the right moves. The Magic will have their lottery picks to use in addition to all of the picks they acquired in this trade. Throw in the cap room and the young players they landed like Afflalo, Harkless, Vucevic and Eyenga and Orlando may have a brighter future than people think.
One thing to keep in mind about the offer from the Houston Rockets: It wasn’t as attractive as reports have indicated. The Rockets weren’t willing to give up all of the picks and prospects in addition to taking back Orlando’s bad contracts. It was one or the other. If Houston was giving away their prospects, they weren’t taking back bad contracts. If they were taking back bad contracts, they weren’t giving away their prospects. Without a long-term commitment from Dwight Howard, the Rockets weren’t willing to potentially ruin their future by giving away all of their prospects and taking back ugly deals. Houston wasn’t going to put themselves in a position where if Howard left after the season, they’d be stuck with bad contracts and have zero young players to build around. In recent months, reports have made it sound like Houston’s offer was the perfect deal for Orlando, but the Rockets were never going to give up everything and take back all of Orlando’s garbage.
The Magic are going to get worse in the short-term, but this trade gives them a lot of flexibility going forward. They wanted draft picks and prospects in exchange for Dwight Howard and that’s what they got in this deal. They may be a terrible team for a few years, but they’re alright with that. They’ll get a few lottery picks and they’ll have all of the first-round picks they acquired in this deal to wheel and deal on draft night. Also, they’ll have enough cap room to hand out two maximum contracts in 2014, when LeBron James, Dwyane Wade, Carmelo Anthony, Kobe Bryant Dirk Nowitzki, Amar’e Stoudemire, Chris Bosh, Pau Gasol, Paul Pierce, Danny Granger, Luol Deng, Rudy Gay, Zach Randolph and Andrew Bogut can become free agents. This move looks bad for Orlando today, but it may look better in a few years.
Also, they’ll have enough cap room to hand out two maximum contracts in 2014, when LeBron James, Dwyane Wade, Carmelo Anthony, Kobe Bryant Dirk Nowitzki, Amar’e Stoudemire, Chris Bosh, Pau Gasol, Paul Pierce, Danny Granger, Luol Deng, Rudy Gay, Zach Randolph and Andrew Bogut can become free agents.
Not thrilled. These guys will be either old or not leaving their current teams.
Noonskadoodle wrote:So what's the complete trade?
We got McRoberts instead of Harrington?
Noonskadoodle wrote:So what's the complete trade?
We got McRoberts instead of Harrington?
Noonskadoodle wrote:So what's the complete trade?
We got McRoberts instead of Harrington?
VGOSWAMI wrote:Harkless will be the guy to watch for us. If we're lucky, he becomes Kevin Durant. At worst, he's Trevor Ariza. I'll really be pulling for him.
TheLastDon wrote:Trade grade: INCOMPLETE
Hedo, Harrington, JJ, McRoberts, and Vucevic are all expiring contracts
I want to see a secondary move
BTW this deal is better than Brooklyn and Houston trade offers by far
