Cole World: Orlando Magic Select Cole Anthony at #15

[Blue_and_Whte]

In a 2 PG line up:

On offense:
PG Fultz
SG Anthony

On defense:
PG Anthony
SG Fultz

In a 1 PG line up:

Starter: Fultz
Bench: Anthony

Are we all on the same page?
Is a 2 PG line up something that is feasible this year or do you think we'll mostly see Anthony off the bench in place of Markelle?
How do you think Fournier will react to a 2 PG line up?

Wait I thought we did run two pg line ups last season.... Eitherway everyone is on the same page.

[pepe1991]

I will kindly bet you whatever terms you want that both Reddish and Hunter are in the Hawks rotation this season.

Barrett and White are obviously going to be starters for their teams

The only one that that is even questionable is Culver, but I suspect he's going to play backup wing minutes as well.

So Hawks roster:
Trae Cant defend a chair
Bogdan Cant defend a chair
Galo Cant defend a chair
Collins Cant defend a chair
Capela

those are starters, let's not fool ourselfs.

Rondo/Huerter/Solomon Hill/ Tony Snell/ Okongwu/ Fernando

Rondo,Huerter and Okongwu are locked to get rotation min. So Hunter and Reddish are in there ,fighting for what ? 14 mpg?

Barrett isn't terrible, i never said he is. He is just stuck on terrible team.

White will only start if Lavine is starting at PG. If they still get a starting PG, no, he is not starting. it's whoever at PG/ Lavine/Porter / Lauri / Wendell starting 5.
But from everything i could find about Bulls, they will start Satoransky at PG, witch means your boy is back at bench.
For crying out loud, guy started amazing total of ONE game last year.

They ll miss the playoff and Trae will be very upset

And we split series last year agains them ( 2-2) while they were having 70% of roster made of G league guys and rookies

[basketballRob]

So Hawks roster:
Trae Cant defend a chair
Bogdan Cant defend a chair
Galo Cant defend a chair
Collins Cant defend a chair
Capela

those are starters, let's not fool ourselfs.

Rondo/Huerter/Solomon Hill/ Tony Snell/ Okongwu/ Fernando

Rondo,Huerter and Okongwu are locked to get rotation min. So Hunter and Reddish are in there ,fighting for what ? 14 mpg?

Barrett isn't terrible, i never said he is. He is just stuck on terrible team.

White will only start if Lavine is starting at PG. If they still get a starting PG, no, he is not starting. it's whoever at PG/ Lavine/Porter / Lauri / Wendell starting 5.
But from everything i could find about Bulls, they will start Satoransky at PG, witch means your boy is back at bench.
For crying out loud, guy started amazing total of ONE game last year.

They ll miss the playoff and Trae will be very upset

And we split series last year agains them ( 2-2) while they were having 70% of roster made of G league guys and rookies

I remember one was on a Trae Young 3 pt bank shot.

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[Knightro]

I just don't care who Atlanta signed.

They drafted Hunter and Reddish in the top 10 just last year, played them 32 MPG and 27 MPG respectively as rookies and neither guy did anything to justify not getting at least similar playing time this upcoming year.

They're not going to be benching either one of them.

[basketballRob]

Nice to see Orlando has Chuma and Cole in the new promo.

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[zaymon]

This is his breakout year, I bet ya

Nah actually, I think if he can come back playing like he did post ASB (passing more, posting more, taking and making sensible shots) then it could give us a sneaky push for a hot start. I'm expecting Evan and Vuc to come back in strong form again.

Fultz will be our X Factor. Can he step up and demand a bigger seat at the table? Off the bench it's how much of a step down Cole is from DJ to begin. I expect him to start very conservatively, making the pass over taking the shot, just to prove he can be that guy.

And then we'll always be a coin toss decision as to how competitive we'll be that night.

If the guys come back and start the season with defeated attitudes then we're in trouble. If they come in hot and looking to prove people wrong, we could be an early Cinderella story waiting to come back down to earth.

If our rotation consists of Fultz, Anthony, Okeke and Bamba i see it as a win- win season. I also expect less Fournier on ball and more Fultz/Anthony ( only if they can handle it). We are positioned to benefit either we win or lose. If we win with such a young rotation we will be years ahead of Hawks, Wizards, Pistons, Hornets. If we lose we can ship Fournier, Gordon possibly Vucevic at the deadline and pivot to soft rebuild

Respectfully disagree. You can't send Fournier, Gordon, and Vuc out there to lose before the trade deadline. You gotta make them options A,B, and C to increase their trade value as much as possible, then pop them all out at the deadline. If we are mad losing with those three as the top 3 options, who in their right mind is going to bail us out with a trade? The losing (or winning) will solely be placed on them.

Weltman showed he is not all about winning right now, and Clifford was totally on board until now. How can you explain tank job Clifford performed with playing Bamba in his rookie year ? How about starting Fultz who still couldnt shoot ? Clifford is slowly handing this team to the young guys and even veterans can see it. How can you explain quotes from Fournier who told that Fultz and Isaac are the future of the team ? Would selfish and jealous veteran said that words ? Fultz was not capable of being a lead ball handler in regular season last year so Fournier and Augustin bailed him out.
This year i expect Fultz to be our lead ball handler. It already happened in playoffs if you payed attention. Fultz had much higher usage than Fournier and we traded Augustin who was also getting mayority of on ball reps.
You wrote that Fournier, Vucevic and Gordon will lose their value if they are not the primary options. I think being primary options actually supresses their value.

[Blue_and_Whte]

Nice to see Orlando has Chuma and Cole in the new promo.

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pepe: "They nothing but fu** losers. Let me ask you this Jordan or Drexler..."

[pepe1991]

Nice to see Orlando has Chuma and Cole in the new promo.

Read on Twitter

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pepe: "They nothing but fu** losers. Let me ask you this Jordan or Drexler..."

did you wet your pants watching this ?

6'7 PF and college Brandon Jennings. #TheFuture

[KillMonger]

Nice to see Orlando has Chuma and Cole in the new promo.

Read on Twitter

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pepe: "They nothing but fu** losers. Let me ask you this Jordan or Drexler..."

did you wet your pants watching this ?

6'7 PF and college Brandon Jennings. #TheFuture

[thelead]

pepe: "They nothing but fu** losers. Let me ask you this Jordan or Drexler..."

did you wet your pants watching this ?

6'7 PF and college Brandon Jennings. #TheFuture

It is seriously getting old. A majority of us have doubts about these kids but let them get some playing time first without completely dismissing them.

Also, I want to see Pepe start trashing this FO hardcore if he hates the players so much. It’s not Cole’s fault that he’s here.

[KillMonger]

did you wet your pants watching this ?

6'7 PF and college Brandon Jennings. #TheFuture

It is seriously getting old. A majority of us have doubts about these kids but let them get some playing time first without completely dismissing them.

Also, I want to see Pepe start trashing this FO hardcore if he hates the players so much. It’s not Cole’s fault that he’s here.

at this point i expect it.....it seems like whenever there is any bit of excitement you know pepe is around the corner ready to throw some cold water on you....it's like bro....just let me have this man......don't be that guy lol

[pepe1991]

It is seriously getting old. A majority of us have doubts about these kids but let them get some playing time first without completely dismissing them.

Also, I want to see Pepe start trashing this FO hardcore if he hates the players so much. It’s not Cole’s fault that he’s here.

at this point i expect it.....it seems like whenever there is any bit of excitement you know pepe is around the corner ready to throw some cold water on you....it's like bro....just let me have this man......don't be that guy lol

You are getting exited about wrong tihngs, maybe?
Last year fans were drooling over Fultz and his " potential" , year later nobody cares really.
3 years previous to last one Gordon was ready to embrace his Kawhi Leonard stardom, allegedly.
Can't forget about that period of time when Elfrid Payton was point guard of a future.
And all those Hezonja days.
And all Gobert with 3 point shot Bamba comparisons.
Oh almost forgot that post Iwundu pick- Jimmy Bulter comparisons.


Now you are exited about post ACL tear player that didn't play basketball since March of 2019.
Cole simply didn't play well enough at college to expect that much from him in nba. If he did, he would go as lottery pick. Talking about one of most media exposed, hyped prospects from 2020 who failed to make a lottery selection in one of worst projected drafts in last decade. He started his college career by being along side his father as guest in ESPN..

I'm not here to s*** on anybodies parade but non of those moves are really "exiting" to me. I bring my own opinion, you are entitled for yours.

You want me to talk crap about front office? Did it in2017, was called hater. See how that goes?
Now everybody is trading Gordon, when i said we should maximise his stock and trade him in 2017 i was biggest moron out there , getting "you are just a hater" replys all the time.
Not to even mention all the Payton crap.

You don't need to be advanced nba scout or GM to understand archetype of player somebody will shape up to be.
Cole Anthony is 6'2 shooting guard with by nba -average athletics and below average lenght. How many of them are good with similar body type and skill in nba? Colin Sexston, Lou Williams, Jordan Clarkson ceiling? He would have take tremendous leap as playmaker to get a chance to play full time- starting PG in nba.

Chuma comes from terrible injury, never played in NBA, used to be college PF. Lacks really size for that position in NBA. We talk about player who will probably be solid role player. Has all the tools. Once again, archetype of player who he can be. Better defense Washington. Ofc here main issue will be adjustments to size. Stanley Johnson, Justice Winslow are just few college PFs who failed in NBA because their jumpshot didn't carry them to next level. Let's hope Okeke is better.

[KillMonger]

It is seriously getting old. A majority of us have doubts about these kids but let them get some playing time first without completely dismissing them.

Also, I want to see Pepe start trashing this FO hardcore if he hates the players so much. It’s not Cole’s fault that he’s here.

at this point i expect it.....it seems like whenever there is any bit of excitement you know pepe is around the corner ready to throw some cold water on you....it's like bro....just let me have this man......don't be that guy lol

You are getting exited about wrong tihngs, maybe?
Last year fans were drooling over Fultz and his " potential" , year later nobody cares really.
3 years previous to last one Gordon was ready to embrace his Kawhi Leonard stardom, allegedly.
Can't forget about that period of time when Elfrid Payton was point guard of a future.
And all those Hezonja days.
And all Gobert with 3 point shot Bamba comparisons.
Oh almost forgot that post Iwundu pick- Jimmy Bulter comparisons.


Now you are exited about post ACL tear player that didn't play basketball since March of 2019.
Cole simply didn't play well enough at college to expect that much from him in nba. If he did, he would go as lottery pick. Talking about one of most media exposed, hyped prospects from 2020 who failed to make a lottery selection in one of worst projected drafts in last decade. He started his college career by being along side his father as guest in ESPN..

I'm not here to s*** on anybodies parade but non of those moves are really "exiting" to me. I bring my own opinion, you are entitled for yours.

You want me to talk crap about front office? Did it in2017, was called hater. See how that goes?
Now everybody is trading Gordon, when i said we should maximise his stock and trade him in 2017 i was biggest moron out there , getting "you are just a hater" replys all the time.
Not to even mention all the Payton crap.

You don't need to be advanced nba scout or GM to understand archetype of player somebody will shape up to be.
Cole Anthony is 6'2 shooting guard with by nba -average athletics and below average lenght. How many of them are good with similar body type and skill in nba? Colin Sexston, Lou Williams, Jordan Clarkson ceiling? He would have take tremendous leap as playmaker to get a chance to play full time- starting PG in nba.

Chuma comes from terrible injury, never played in NBA, used to be college PF. Lacks really size for that position in NBA. We talk about player who will probably be solid role player. Has all the tools. Once again, archetype of player who he can be. Better defense Washington. Ofc here main issue will be adjustments to size. Stanley Johnson, Justice Winslow are just few college PFs who failed in NBA because their jumpshot didn't carry them to next level. Let's hope Okeke is better.

i rest my case.....you could've took it as a joke (which it was) and move on but....you proved my point and just threw cold water on me man

[pepe1991]

at this point i expect it.....it seems like whenever there is any bit of excitement you know pepe is around the corner ready to throw some cold water on you....it's like bro....just let me have this man......don't be that guy lol

You are getting exited about wrong tihngs, maybe?
Last year fans were drooling over Fultz and his " potential" , year later nobody cares really.
3 years previous to last one Gordon was ready to embrace his Kawhi Leonard stardom, allegedly.
Can't forget about that period of time when Elfrid Payton was point guard of a future.
And all those Hezonja days.
And all Gobert with 3 point shot Bamba comparisons.
Oh almost forgot that post Iwundu pick- Jimmy Bulter comparisons.


Now you are exited about post ACL tear player that didn't play basketball since March of 2019.
Cole simply didn't play well enough at college to expect that much from him in nba. If he did, he would go as lottery pick. Talking about one of most media exposed, hyped prospects from 2020 who failed to make a lottery selection in one of worst projected drafts in last decade. He started his college career by being along side his father as guest in ESPN..

I'm not here to s*** on anybodies parade but non of those moves are really "exiting" to me. I bring my own opinion, you are entitled for yours.

You want me to talk crap about front office? Did it in2017, was called hater. See how that goes?
Now everybody is trading Gordon, when i said we should maximise his stock and trade him in 2017 i was biggest moron out there , getting "you are just a hater" replys all the time.
Not to even mention all the Payton crap.

You don't need to be advanced nba scout or GM to understand archetype of player somebody will shape up to be.
Cole Anthony is 6'2 shooting guard with by nba -average athletics and below average lenght. How many of them are good with similar body type and skill in nba? Colin Sexston, Lou Williams, Jordan Clarkson ceiling? He would have take tremendous leap as playmaker to get a chance to play full time- starting PG in nba.

Chuma comes from terrible injury, never played in NBA, used to be college PF. Lacks really size for that position in NBA. We talk about player who will probably be solid role player. Has all the tools. Once again, archetype of player who he can be. Better defense Washington. Ofc here main issue will be adjustments to size. Stanley Johnson, Justice Winslow are just few college PFs who failed in NBA because their jumpshot didn't carry them to next level. Let's hope Okeke is better.

i rest my case.....you could've took it as a joke (which it was) and move on but....you proved my point and just threw cold water on me man

sorry mate

I hope this team actually finds, if not anything, at least direction that will lead towar brigther future and satisfying product for fans.
But i'm already ready for least exiting season since a one where Dwight left

[zaymon]

Just finished to watch most of post draft gm interviews. Everybody got their guy I think in the end we were fortunate how the draft unfolded. Starting at 8 Knicks just did what was expected of them and took CAA guy in Obi. At 9 Washington continued the tradition of drafting flawed forwards. I was very low on Rui and am mild on Avdija. At 10 Phoenix once again reached for shooting. At 11 San Antonio took one of the more interesting guys in Vassell (fully expected). At 12 Kings took nice value in Haliburton, but we know they are not interested in bpa becouse they have Fox. At 13 Pelicans did their job. At 14 Boston seemed to be more interested in matchup vs Miami than bpa. Heat shooters shredded them and they had no anwers of their own.
Overall there was 4-5 potential lead ball handlers in the draft. Last ones were Lewis at 13 and Anthony at 15. We were fortunate in my eyes.

[basketballRob]

Just finished to watch most of post draft gm interviews. Everybody got their guy I think in the end we were fortunate how the draft unfolded. Starting at 8 Knicks just did what was expected of them and took CAA guy in Obi. At 9 Washington continued the tradition of drafting flawed forwards. I was very low on Rui and am mild on Avdija. At 10 Phoenix once again reached for shooting. At 11 San Antonio took one of the more interesting guys in Vassell (fully expected). At 12 Kings took nice value in Haliburton, but we know they are not interested in bpa becouse they have Fox. At 13 Pelicans did their job. At 14 Boston seemed to be more interested in matchup vs Miami than bpa. Heat shooters shredded them and they had no anwers of their own.
Overall there was 4-5 potential lead ball handlers in the draft. Last ones were Lewis at 13 and Anthony at 15. We were fortunate in my eyes.

My theory was the Heat were praying that Cole would be there when they picked. They need PG help, plus Cole was in Miami working out for a while. Hammond and Weltman had to go there to see him. He probably had a promise from the Heat, so he wasn't out actively looking to be drafted to a mid first round team.

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[Skin]

Anthony will have to play like a player he's never shown to be in order for me to like him. Tall order but I hope he pans out. I can dig his 3 ball, dribbling and confidence.

[JBSouthpaw]

Just finished to watch most of post draft gm interviews. Everybody got their guy I think in the end we were fortunate how the draft unfolded. Starting at 8 Knicks just did what was expected of them and took CAA guy in Obi. At 9 Washington continued the tradition of drafting flawed forwards. I was very low on Rui and am mild on Avdija. At 10 Phoenix once again reached for shooting. At 11 San Antonio took one of the more interesting guys in Vassell (fully expected). At 12 Kings took nice value in Haliburton, but we know they are not interested in bpa becouse they have Fox. At 13 Pelicans did their job. At 14 Boston seemed to be more interested in matchup vs Miami than bpa. Heat shooters shredded them and they had no anwers of their own.
Overall there was 4-5 potential lead ball handlers in the draft. Last ones were Lewis at 13 and Anthony at 15. We were fortunate in my eyes.

My theory was the Heat were praying that Cole would be there when they picked. They need PG help, plus Cole was in Miami working out for a while. Hammond and Weltman had to go there to see him. He probably had a promise from the Heat, so he wasn't out actively looking to be drafted to a mid first round team.

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I know you were talking about before the draft (and FA for that matter) but Miami has some serious depth at PG now.
Goran, Hero, Nunn, Bradley and don't forget, Butler also played the "point" a couple times too. They have enough ball handlers to handle injuries pretty easy.

[basketballRob]

Just finished to watch most of post draft gm interviews. Everybody got their guy I think in the end we were fortunate how the draft unfolded. Starting at 8 Knicks just did what was expected of them and took CAA guy in Obi. At 9 Washington continued the tradition of drafting flawed forwards. I was very low on Rui and am mild on Avdija. At 10 Phoenix once again reached for shooting. At 11 San Antonio took one of the more interesting guys in Vassell (fully expected). At 12 Kings took nice value in Haliburton, but we know they are not interested in bpa becouse they have Fox. At 13 Pelicans did their job. At 14 Boston seemed to be more interested in matchup vs Miami than bpa. Heat shooters shredded them and they had no anwers of their own.
Overall there was 4-5 potential lead ball handlers in the draft. Last ones were Lewis at 13 and Anthony at 15. We were fortunate in my eyes.

My theory was the Heat were praying that Cole would be there when they picked. They need PG help, plus Cole was in Miami working out for a while. Hammond and Weltman had to go there to see him. He probably had a promise from the Heat, so he wasn't out actively looking to be drafted to a mid first round team.

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I know you were talking about before the draft (and FA for that matter) but Miami has some serious depth at PG now.
Goran, Hero, Nunn, Bradley and don't forget, Butler also played the "point" a couple times too. They have enough ball handlers to handle injuries pretty easy.

Dragic is the only real PG.

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[JBSouthpaw]

My theory was the Heat were praying that Cole would be there when they picked. They need PG help, plus Cole was in Miami working out for a while. Hammond and Weltman had to go there to see him. He probably had a promise from the Heat, so he wasn't out actively looking to be drafted to a mid first round team.

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I know you were talking about before the draft (and FA for that matter) but Miami has some serious depth at PG now.
Goran, Hero, Nunn, Bradley and don't forget, Butler also played the "point" a couple times too. They have enough ball handlers to handle injuries pretty easy.

Dragic is the only real PG.

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Same as last year for them. It went ok.