Official Speculation Thread (Pt XVII, Mods Close)

ADRajX · Post #521 » by **ADRajX** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 4:47 pm

If nothing goes down tonight... then nothing will go down tomorrow or the 15th. Just my honest opinion. GS won't trade us Ellis.

Might need to look elsewhere for slight upgrades.

vinageras · Post #522 » by **vinageras** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 4:47 pm

rj2496 wrote:
Nyce_1 wrote:
rj2496 wrote:I'm curious how you guys think you get the best player in the deal (Ellis) without giving up Anderson. He would more then likely be included. There is no other value besides him because everyone else is on a bad contract except JJ.

I think everyone here understands, and expects, Redick & Anderson to be gone.

Idk...going through this thread it doesn't really seem like it.

There's a small chance that if we help GSW get Bogut and absorb Biedrins's and SJax's contracts, we wouldn't have to give up both. Nevertheless, as I said, is a very slim chance.

SEBAS-07 · Post #523 » by **SEBAS-07** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 4:47 pm

Monta Ellis
A fun little tidbit from the new stats gizmo at NBA.com: The Warriors are plus-15 this season when Steph Curry plays and Monta Ellis are on the bench but minus-119 when Ellis plays and Curry is on the pine. The season before, they were plus-23 with Curry and no Ellis but minus-191 with Ellis and no Curry. The season before that, the tally was plus-122 with Curry and no Ellis and minus-89 for the opposite.

So, for the three seasons those two have been together, Golden State has outscored its opponents by 160 points when Curry plays and Ellis sits despite being badly outscored overall. And, in the opposite situation, the Warriors have been outscored by 399 points.

Nolimit1211 · Post #524 » by **Nolimit1211** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 4:48 pm

Marshon Brooks or Monta Ellis?

Either way, we're finally getting someone to create their own shot!!!!

BelgianMagic · Post #525 » by **BelgianMagic** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 4:50 pm

DJRajX wrote:- GS won't trade us Ellis.
- Might need to look elsewhere for slight upgrades

This is what everyone should talk about ..

I'd prefer some smaller moves than a roster-gutting move .. The risk of losing everything we have + Dwight is too big

But please, for the love of God, do something! No trade & letting him walk would be like giving up ..

bigpimpatl · Post #526 » by **bigpimpatl** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 4:51 pm

SEBAS-07 wrote:Monta Ellis
A fun little tidbit from the new stats gizmo at NBA.com: The Warriors are plus-15 this season when Steph Curry plays and Monta Ellis are on the bench but minus-119 when Ellis plays and Curry is on the pine. The season before, they were plus-23 with Curry and no Ellis but minus-191 with Ellis and no Curry. The season before that, the tally was plus-122 with Curry and no Ellis and minus-89 for the opposite.

So, for the three seasons those two have been together, Golden State has outscored its opponents by 160 points when Curry plays and Ellis sits despite being badly outscored overall. And, in the opposite situation, the Warriors have been outscored by 399 points.

he's a ball stopper. and we are trying to acquire him.

SVG might as well quit.

Nolimit1211 · Post #527 » by **Nolimit1211** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 4:51 pm

U Mad?

arsenal6106 · Post #528 » by **arsenal6106** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 4:51 pm

Nolimit1211 wrote:It's Time....

Are we getting Barea too?!!

InFlames · Post #529 » by **InFlames** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 4:51 pm

SEBAS-07 wrote:Monta Ellis
A fun little tidbit from the new stats gizmo at NBA.com: The Warriors are plus-15 this season when Steph Curry plays and Monta Ellis are on the bench but minus-119 when Ellis plays and Curry is on the pine. The season before, they were plus-23 with Curry and no Ellis but minus-191 with Ellis and no Curry. The season before that, the tally was plus-122 with Curry and no Ellis and minus-89 for the opposite.

So, for the three seasons those two have been together, Golden State has outscored its opponents by 160 points when Curry plays and Ellis sits despite being badly outscored overall. And, in the opposite situation, the Warriors have been outscored by 399 points.

Wow.....

Reverse_Angle · Post #530 » by **Reverse_Angle** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 4:52 pm

Driguez wrote:
Reverse_Angle wrote:i think i am just gonna keep making the point that trading dwight or letting him walk will make no real difference if the goal is the NBA finals.

You are correct, but as constructed we would be lucky to get past the Hawks.

sure. i am trying to put things in perspective. trading dwight short a top 12 player will make orlando irrelevant for about 6 years. letting dwight walk at the end of the season will make orlando irrelevant for about 6 years.

i rather keep him and make a push this off-season regardless of what we do before the trade deadline.

magicman123 · Post #531 » by **magicman123** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 4:52 pm

Nolimit1211 wrote:Marshon Brooks or Monta Ellis?

Either way, we're finally getting someone to create their own shot!!!!

Marshon guarantees us we suck, Ellis guarantees we suck a little less, yippeeC

glennathan · Post #532 » by **glennathan** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 4:54 pm

MiracleBZop wrote:
DJRajX wrote:I feel like the Magic front office has turned into this guy

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQCkZHtxvys[/youtube]

I almost spit my drink out while watching this So true.

That was too funny. I literally started coughing because of laughing so hard

This is probably what the BVW call to Dwight sounded like.

BadMofoPimp · Post #533 » by **BadMofoPimp** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 4:55 pm

magicman123 wrote:
Nolimit1211 wrote:Marshon Brooks or Monta Ellis?

Either way, we're finally getting someone to create their own shot!!!!

Marshon guarantees us we suck, Ellis guarantees we suck a little less, yippeeC

JJ and Ryan guarantees a future.

Ellis with no JJ and Ryan means that we suck because we are the Orlando Warriors.

RHBullsFan · Post #534 » by **RHBullsFan** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 4:55 pm

we need a backup PG and a backup C. We aren't getting out of round 1 with Duhon playing minutes at the point.
This team does not need Richardson, Redick, and Wafer at SG.

BadMofoPimp · Post #535 » by **BadMofoPimp** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 4:57 pm

I say the Magic will only make minor tweaks to the roster and convince Dwight to at least Opt In because in 2013 we can have both Ellis and Josh Smith to go with Ryno and JJ.

That is the Best Pitch Martins can make right now without making trades to tack on more salary further crippling this team.

This is why I keep saying, nothing major will happen. This is all media and fans blowing rumors out of proportion to get attention.

locomagicfan · Post #536 » by **locomagicfan** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 4:58 pm

Berger updated his article. New Dwight list revealed:

http://www.cbssports.com/nba/blog/ken-b ... t-revealed

Nolimit1211 · Post #537 » by **Nolimit1211** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 4:59 pm

BadMofoPimp wrote:
magicman123 wrote:
Nolimit1211 wrote:Marshon Brooks or Monta Ellis?

Either way, we're finally getting someone to create their own shot!!!!

Marshon guarantees us we suck, Ellis guarantees we suck a little less, yippeeC

JJ and Ryan guarantees a future.

Ellis with no JJ and Ryan means that we suck because we are the Orlando Warriors.

That's funny I thought Ellis was younger than Redick... As for Ryan, what's he gonna add to his game? Shoot MORE 3's?

SubyWill · Post #538 » by **SubyWill** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 4:59 pm

Nolimit1211 wrote:It's Time....

That would be the best case scenario right now.

bigpimpatl · Post #539 » by **bigpimpatl** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 5:00 pm

BadMofoPimp wrote:I say the Magic will only make minor tweaks to the roster and convince Dwight to at least Opt In because in 2013 we can have both Ellis and Josh Smith to go with Ryno and JJ.

That is the Best Pitch Martins can make right now without making trades to tack on more salary further crippling this team.

This is why I keep saying, nothing major will happen. This is all media and fans blowing rumors out of proportion to get attention.

if anything, we should make trades for expiring contracts. I'd crown Otis king if we could dump Nelson with Ryan for an expiring, like Boris Diaw. Tell Dwight to be patient for a few more months. Then sign Deron ourselves.

rcklsscognition · Post #540 » by **rcklsscognition** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 5:00 pm

I will be without internet until just about 30 minutes before tipoff. Hope something is done when I return.