Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XXIII: Offseason Edition)

[The Real Dalic]

Adonal Foyle ‏ @afoyle3131
Let me be abundantly clear I have never been interviewed for a GM job with the Orlando Magic.

Adonal Foyle ‏ @afoyle3131
Further Otis is my friend and mentor and I would never disrespect him in this manner.As Dir. of Player Dev - I have lots of work to do yet.

Hopefully what he's saying is not a lie. I'd rather get an established GM.

[OrlandO]

So if our only options were Otis or Foyle, which would you take?

[The Real Dalic]

So if our only options were Otis or Foyle, which would you take?

That's easy for me, Foyle.

[Cigamodnalro]

So if our only options were Otis or Foyle, which would you take?

Foyle.

Glad those aren't our only options though.

[OrlandO]

http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/sports_magic/2008/06/magic-extend-gm.html

!!!!!

2008 - nice try, troll

Welcome to RealGM

Exactly why I looked at the date before the headline

[pakishazi]

Adonal Foyle ‏ @afoyle3131
Let me be abundantly clear I have never been interviewed for a GM job with the Orlando Magic.

Adonal Foyle ‏ @afoyle3131
Further Otis is my friend and mentor and I would never disrespect him in this manner.As Dir. of Player Dev - I have lots of work to do yet.

Hopefully what he's saying is not a lie. I'd rather get an established GM.

Steve Kyler and Alex Kennedy told me on the radio about an hour back that he didn't actually interview for the job like a typical job interview. He was just around the front office during the time they were entertaining the trade ideas last year at the deadline and was considered for a position in the future in the front office (not necessarily GM per se) but the thinking is that he would be the GM.

[ADRajX]

So if our only options were Otis or Foyle, which would you take?

Foyle.

Glad those aren't our only options though.

[Bensational]

The key pursuit of our front office should be finding a way to offload Hedo, JRich, and BBD for expiring deals. JRich and BBD are easily moved IMO, Hedo though, that is much harder and would require a much more complicated deal. But if you pull it off you have max cap space in '13-'14, even with a re-signed Anderson.

If the Magic only hold on to guaranteed contracts in 13-14 we could be looking at only $25M in cap space (or thereabouts) plus Dwight's extension/cap hold.

Those players would be BBD, JRich, and then Hedo's contract plus Duhon's contract.

I don't think the Magic will find a taker for Hedo, unless they move his bad deal for an equally bad deal.

Hopefully, though, we can find a decent return for BBD and JRich plus picks.

Also, I'd rather keep Anderson's $10m and offer it to JSmith or Monta or Iggy. So we may as well let him sign elsewhere and then negotiate for a couple draft picks or threaten to match when we get the chance.

[ADRajX]

The key pursuit of our front office should be finding a way to offload Hedo, JRich, and BBD for expiring deals. JRich and BBD are easily moved IMO, Hedo though, that is much harder and would require a much more complicated deal. But if you pull it off you have max cap space in '13-'14, even with a re-signed Anderson.

I don't think the Magic will find a taker for Hedo, unless they move his bad deal for an equally bad deal.

Something like... Corey Maggette for Hedo?

[eyriq]

If the Magic only hold on to guaranteed contracts in 13-14 we could be looking at only $25M in cap space (or thereabouts) plus Dwight's extension/cap hold.

Those players would be BBD, JRich, and then Hedo's contract plus Duhon's contract.

I don't think the Magic will find a taker for Hedo, unless they move his bad deal for an equally bad deal.

Hopefully, though, we can find a decent return for BBD and JRich plus picks.

Also, I'd rather keep Anderson's $10m and offer it to JSmith or Monta or Iggy. So we may as well let him sign elsewhere and then negotiate for a couple draft picks or threaten to match when we get the chance.

Dwight at $21M/yr, Harper/Liggins + our next two drafts at around $4.5 million total, then $500k holds on our un-filled slots comes out to $57.412 million. Cut Duhon and Hedo and you're down to $49.412.

[christian72589]

So if our only options were Otis or Foyle, which would you take?

IF IF IF that happened, Foyle no question.

[ChosenSavior]

The key pursuit of our front office should be finding a way to offload Hedo, JRich, and BBD for expiring deals. JRich and BBD are easily moved IMO, Hedo though, that is much harder and would require a much more complicated deal. But if you pull it off you have max cap space in '13-'14, even with a re-signed Anderson.

I don't think the Magic will find a taker for Hedo, unless they move his bad deal for an equally bad deal.

Something like... Corey Maggette for Hedo?

I don't like either player, but Maggette at least attacks the basket on a consistent basis and is a proven scorer when healthy. Not sure how effective he would be playing with such a dominant big man like Dwight. The move does make a bit of sense on our side, not for Charlotte though.

[MoMM]

I dont think Bobcats would trade Maggette for Hedo, makes no sense for them, IMO.

We could deal Hedo + Ryan for Rashard Lewis or Elton Brand, who is with me?

[The Real Dalic]

I dont think Bobcats would trade Maggette for Hedo, makes no sense for them, IMO.

We could deal Hedo + Ryan for Rashard Lewis or Elton Brand, who is with me?

They're both expirings right?

[eyriq]

The key pursuit of our front office should be finding a way to offload Hedo, JRich, and BBD for expiring deals. JRich and BBD are easily moved IMO, Hedo though, that is much harder and would require a much more complicated deal. But if you pull it off you have max cap space in '13-'14, even with a re-signed Anderson.

I don't think the Magic will find a taker for Hedo, unless they move his bad deal for an equally bad deal.

Something like... Corey Maggette for Hedo?

Damn, I wonder if we could pull it off, though Maggette suddenly is worth 25¢ just based on his expiring, so we'd still need to include more just to offset the cost. Then again, according this Simmon's Money Value System THINGY Hedo becomes valued at 15¢-20¢ himself in '13-'14 just based on his partially guaranteed contract.

[MoMM]

I dont think Bobcats would trade Maggette for Hedo, makes no sense for them, IMO.

We could deal Hedo + Ryan for Rashard Lewis or Elton Brand, who is with me?

They're both expirings right?

Of course

[Bensational]

If the Magic only hold on to guaranteed contracts in 13-14 we could be looking at only $25M in cap space (or thereabouts) plus Dwight's extension/cap hold.

Those players would be BBD, JRich, and then Hedo's contract plus Duhon's contract.

I don't think the Magic will find a taker for Hedo, unless they move his bad deal for an equally bad deal.

Hopefully, though, we can find a decent return for BBD and JRich plus picks.

Also, I'd rather keep Anderson's $10m and offer it to JSmith or Monta or Iggy. So we may as well let him sign elsewhere and then negotiate for a couple draft picks or threaten to match when we get the chance.

Dwight at $21M/yr, Harper/Liggins + our next two drafts at around $4.5 million total, then $500k holds on our un-filled slots comes out to $57.412 million. Cut Duhon and Hedo and you're down to $49.412.

Like I said "if they only keep guaranteed contracts". Harper and Liggins aren't guaranteed past next season. Rights to picks can be traded without acquiring a player holding cap value. We can get lower than what you said quite easily.

[Def Swami]

If Otis could have found a taker for JRich and Hedo for an expiring deal this year, I wonder if we could have squeaked into the D-Will sweepstakes.

[eyriq]

If the Magic only hold on to guaranteed contracts in 13-14 we could be looking at only $25M in cap space (or thereabouts) plus Dwight's extension/cap hold.

Those players would be BBD, JRich, and then Hedo's contract plus Duhon's contract.

I don't think the Magic will find a taker for Hedo, unless they move his bad deal for an equally bad deal.

Hopefully, though, we can find a decent return for BBD and JRich plus picks.

Also, I'd rather keep Anderson's $10m and offer it to JSmith or Monta or Iggy. So we may as well let him sign elsewhere and then negotiate for a couple draft picks or threaten to match when we get the chance.

Dwight at $21M/yr, Harper/Liggins + our next two drafts at around $4.5 million total, then $500k holds on our un-filled slots comes out to $57.412 million. Cut Duhon and Hedo and you're down to $49.412.

Like I said "if they only keep guaranteed contracts". Harper and Liggins aren't guaranteed past next season. Rights to picks can be traded without acquiring a player holding cap value. We can get lower than what you said quite easily.

Ok, so scrape off $4.5 million but add on another $3 million in cap holds. Doesn't make much of a difference. Gotta make trades to have any real cap space is the moral to the story.

[MoMM]

Damn, I wonder if we could pull it off, though Maggette suddenly is worth 25¢ just based on his expiring, so we'd still need to include more just to offset the cost. Then again, according this Simmon's Money Value System THINGY Hedo becomes valued at 15¢-20¢ himself in '13-'14 just based on his partially guaranteed contract.

The problem is that Hedo's contract would be valuable to a team trying to dump salaries, so all we could get for him is another big and longer contract, but with a better player instead.