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tiderulz wrote:basketballRob wrote:Butler is way better than i thought. Miami getting him for Richardson could be like the Magic getting DLo for AG and DJ.
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Butler has a track record for being a top player. Dlo had 1 good year and looks like he might have fallen back to normal
basketballRob wrote:Butler is way better than i thought. Miami getting him for Richardson could be like the Magic getting DLo for AG and DJ.
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pepe1991 wrote:
every single PG should watch this kid play.
Just look how he freezes both defenders after pick&roll and keeps dribble alive .
Right now his PPGs in pick&roll are 1,13 . That's elite, what's even more crazy is that only Luka, Trae Young and Lillard score 14 ppg from pick&rolls as handlers . Yet Luka has eFG of almost 60% where both other guys are stand at 52%. But that's not all, Luka also has best and1 frequency from that plays.
91,4 percentile
if they make playoffs and have some success at, he might be youngest MVP in league's history.
Luka is best example why most important thing for young player is to not rush things and not base whole game on being most athletic guy. Just play composed and within your own rythm and pace.
GelbeWand09 wrote:pepe1991 wrote:
every single PG should watch this kid play.
Just look how he freezes both defenders after pick&roll and keeps dribble alive .
Right now his PPGs in pick&roll are 1,13 . That's elite, what's even more crazy is that only Luka, Trae Young and Lillard score 14 ppg from pick&rolls as handlers . Yet Luka has eFG of almost 60% where both other guys are stand at 52%. But that's not all, Luka also has best and1 frequency from that plays.
91,4 percentile
if they make playoffs and have some success at, he might be youngest MVP in league's history.
Luka is best example why most important thing for young player is to not rush things and not base whole game on being most athletic guy. Just play composed and within your own rythm and pace.
And he shows that the combination of mass & good speed + body control, is as good as any athletic ability. He just absorbs so much contact without losing control. Same for Harden, he got so much mass for his height, that he can absorb almost every contact.
Its funny when guys say Luka needs to lose weight. Pretty sure his game would suffer.
pepe1991 wrote:
every single PG should watch this kid play.
Just look how he freezes both defenders after pick&roll and keeps dribble alive .
Right now his PPGs in pick&roll are 1,13 . That's elite, what's even more crazy is that only Luka, Trae Young and Lillard score 14 ppg from pick&rolls as handlers . Yet Luka has eFG of almost 60% where both other guys are stand at 52%. But that's not all, Luka also has best and1 frequency from that plays.
91,4 percentile
if they make playoffs and have some success at, he might be youngest MVP in league's history.
Luka is best example why most important thing for young player is to not rush things and not base whole game on being most athletic guy. Just play composed and within your own rythm and pace.
tiderulz wrote:pepe1991 wrote:
every single PG should watch this kid play.
Just look how he freezes both defenders after pick&roll and keeps dribble alive .
Right now his PPGs in pick&roll are 1,13 . That's elite, what's even more crazy is that only Luka, Trae Young and Lillard score 14 ppg from pick&rolls as handlers . Yet Luka has eFG of almost 60% where both other guys are stand at 52%. But that's not all, Luka also has best and1 frequency from that plays.
91,4 percentile
if they make playoffs and have some success at, he might be youngest MVP in league's history.
Luka is best example why most important thing for young player is to not rush things and not base whole game on being most athletic guy. Just play composed and within your own rythm and pace.
if only he played defense
The Cavs are also open to trading everyone on their roster outside of Darius Garland in exchange for first-round picks.
MagicFan101 wrote:https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/256461/Cavs-Looking-For-First-Round-Pick-In-Exchange-For-Kevin-LoveThe Cavs are also open to trading everyone on their roster outside of Darius Garland in exchange for first-round picks.
Would you guys give up our pick for Collin Sexton?
Given how well (statistically) the DJ + Fultz duo has done, would we prefer giving Sexton a shot?
GelbeWand09 wrote:MagicFan101 wrote:https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/256461/Cavs-Looking-For-First-Round-Pick-In-Exchange-For-Kevin-LoveThe Cavs are also open to trading everyone on their roster outside of Darius Garland in exchange for first-round picks.
Would you guys give up our pick for Collin Sexton?
Given how well (statistically) the DJ + Fultz duo has done, would we prefer giving Sexton a shot?
Hmmm was never a fan of Sexton. He is a 6-2 SG with at best basic passing skills & super bad defense. This season he shoots only 30% from 3. He is prolly not a starter in the future on a good team.
Question is, are the 40 P% last year a fluke or the 30 3P% so far this year. If he can get his 3P shot back, there is a good chance that he's better than anything we pick in the 15th range, in a bad looking draft. I like him as our 3rd guard coming from the bench.
MagicFan101 wrote:https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/256461/Cavs-Looking-For-First-Round-Pick-In-Exchange-For-Kevin-LoveThe Cavs are also open to trading everyone on their roster outside of Darius Garland in exchange for first-round picks.
Would you guys give up our pick for Collin Sexton?
Given how well (statistically) the DJ + Fultz duo has done, would we prefer giving Sexton a shot?
Knightro wrote:Sexton is an interesting case to me.
As Xatticus pointed out, he absolutely cannot defend or pass which almost certainly is going to limit him to being a third guard on a good team. But Lou Williams has made quite the career out of being just that, so there can be a lot of value there.
I thought in the second half of his rookie year especially, he found something offensively that really worked for him once they moved off the ball. .585 TS% (which is what he did in the 2nd half) for a 19 year old is pretty impressive.
Now admittedly in Year 2 he's regressed, but I wonder how much of is due to the fact the Cavs are trying to awkwardly pair him with another undersized, weak passing guard in Garland.
MagicFan101 wrote:The important thing to consider is you still control him at a rookie rate for 2.5 years. Orlando is pretty maxed out next year if Evan opts in. Even if he does opt out, you have Chuma + our 2020 1st rounder coming on the books to limit our ability to do anything in free agency.
DJ + 2020 1st rounder for Sexton
This gives us another young prospect for the rotation who has shown an ability to score at the NBA level. No, he isn't perfect but really your just asking him to fill DJ's role for two more years. If he can be more than that then we secured another big steal in the trade market.
Knightro wrote:MagicFan101 wrote:The important thing to consider is you still control him at a rookie rate for 2.5 years. Orlando is pretty maxed out next year if Evan opts in. Even if he does opt out, you have Chuma + our 2020 1st rounder coming on the books to limit our ability to do anything in free agency.
DJ + 2020 1st rounder for Sexton
This gives us another young prospect for the rotation who has shown an ability to score at the NBA level. No, he isn't perfect but really your just asking him to fill DJ's role for two more years. If he can be more than that then we secured another big steal in the trade market.
What if they said...
Bamba for Sexton straight up?
Knightro wrote:MagicFan101 wrote:The important thing to consider is you still control him at a rookie rate for 2.5 years. Orlando is pretty maxed out next year if Evan opts in. Even if he does opt out, you have Chuma + our 2020 1st rounder coming on the books to limit our ability to do anything in free agency.
DJ + 2020 1st rounder for Sexton
This gives us another young prospect for the rotation who has shown an ability to score at the NBA level. No, he isn't perfect but really your just asking him to fill DJ's role for two more years. If he can be more than that then we secured another big steal in the trade market.
What if they said...
Bamba for Sexton straight up?
Knightro wrote:The only reason I'd consider Bamba for Sexton is because Mo's on-court value to the Magic ultimately has a clear ceiling over the rest of his rookie contract (and maybe beyond) because of Vucevic's presence/contract status.
We have to assume given his age and salary that there's a limited trade market for Vucevic and that he likely isn't going to be moved any time soon. With that in mind, it appears Bamba would be limited to being a 15 MPG player the next several years.
Is there any scenario outside of significant injury to Vucevic where Mo Bamba cracks 20 MPG in a season before his rookie contract is up?
The answer is probably no. So even if Bamba improves a LOT, A. he's probably not going to get so good that he's better than Vucevic and B. he's not really in a position to see a big increase in minutes as long as Vucevic is here.