2020 Offseason: Trade Ideas / Trade Talk

[Magic_Johnny12]

If Brooklyn strikes out with Drummond I could see them turning their attention to Khem. Maybe something around Shamet and a SRP?

And as much as I dont want to trade Ross, if he can get us a decent late first and an expiring I'll pack his bags myself.

I genuinely do not see us making any big flashy moves, but hope our front office is ready to take advantage of teams that are desperate to win this year. We have a lot of players that can help teams win NOW.

[Skybox]

If Brooklyn strikes out with Drummond I could see them turning their attention to Khem. Maybe something around Shamet and a SRP?

And as much as I dont want to trade Ross, if he can get us a decent late first and an expiring I'll pack his bags myself.

I genuinely do not see us making any big flashy moves, but hope our front office is ready to take advantage of teams that are desperate to win this year. We have a lot of players that can help teams win NOW.

I would not do that for Ross, by itself at least...if it were part of a campaign to shed cap space including packing up Aminu with a 2rp or two, trading AG into BOS's TPE for Nesmith, Fournier for a young guy and an expiring, etc, THE WHOLE could make a difference...but I'm not even sure of that. It would require FO to "lose" individual trades for the greater good...Like Morey moving Horford out with a pick attached...bold, dangerous, unlikely

[Xatticus]

The Knicks are getting better numbers from Randle than we’re getting from Vuc this season, with the bonus that he’s a PF so they can use Robinson as C to anchor their improving defense still.

It’s crazy how they looked like the laughing stock of the NBA, but Thibs has pulled the competitiveness out of that team so far. They’ll likely fall off a cliff once Toronto and Miami get healthy and push them out of playoff seeding, unless Rose can really help stabilise their offense and PG rotation.

So is NY getting better with a plan OR is this what some of us are really concerned about with Cliff/WeHam (squeezing wins out with band-aids that hurt our future)? I've been really vocal about my aversion to tanking but I'm good with losing while getting on the right path...bringing in Rose maybe gets NY out of the lottery while still being basically irrelevant in the playoffs and not really showing a lot of reason to expect more the year after (sound familiar?). At least, we have young guys like Isaac, Fultz that still seem like they could possibly become a lot more. Anthony, Okeke, Bamba are or may become solid rotational pieces...I don't know that NY's young guys inspire the same confidence for upside...Toppin, Robinson, Quickley look more like solid rotational pieces at best, IMO. If ORL brought in Rose to play with AG and Vuc and Evan, we'd definitely move up to playoff contention...but so what?

Maybe I'm just being a homer. Knicks being Knicks

I guess if you look at the Knicks and think they don’t inspire confidence in a bright future (which I agree, they don’t), I’d wonder how you can feel any differently about this team? Similar pieces, similar coaches, similar performances. Randle is playing better than Vuc, Barrett is better than any prospect we have including Isaac, and Robinson is a very good defender in the hands of a very good defensive coach who’s actually playing him. And right now they’re overachieving and in playoff seeding without a proper decent quality backcourt.

Would you consider Randle someone that the Knicks should keep and build around, regardless of it relegating Toppin to the bench, and that his performance is coming in a contract year?

The Knicks aren't as constrained as we are. They just have to exude competence and wait for the next superstar that hits the market to choose New York as the place that he will build his future.

I don't like much of what they have done, but it is pretty damning that we are looking up at them in the standings considering that we are doing our best to win games and they are comprised of flawed prospects and a collection of veterans they threw money at two summers ago when they missed out on all of the guys they wanted in free agency. Oh... and Elfrid Payton is the starting point guard for one of the best defenses in the league. Perhaps he isn't why our defense sucked?

[cedric76]

I m not proud of it but i ve been thinking of a porz - vuc trade


Something around Vuc +aminu for porz +Terry +assets


C: Bamba, porz, birch
Pf :porz, isaac, chuma
Sf:isaac, chuma, bacon
Sg:xxx, Ross, Terry, mcw
Pg:fultz, Cole, Terry


Use Evan, AG to find a sg

Tbh Evan would be perfect in this role but if we move Vuc he will bolt in free agency

[jvalin]

(...) I'd try to follow it by giving Gordon to BOS for Nesmith or some similar upside shooter. Perhaps a negative trade but a plus for team fit.

Ball, Anthony, MCW
Fultz, Nesmith
NAW, Bacon
Isaac, Okeke, Aminu
Vucevic, Birch

Celtics fan here. It seems like the Magic could have a use for a wing prospect. How about Mo Bamba for Romeo Langford straight up?



Langford is younger than Nesmith (just by a few days). He's more NBA-ready as well. In fact, he played 46 minutes in the playoffs last season. Unfortunately, he sustained a wrist injury in the bubble. If it weren't for the injury, I bet he would have started plenty of games this season. He ain't ready to play yet, but he's expected to come back soon. There are no long-term concerns. It's just a wrist injury. He's under team control for one more season compared to Bamba. He's a terrific defender thanks to his length and athleticism. His offensive game is a work in progress.

[basketballRob]

(...) I'd try to follow it by giving Gordon to BOS for Nesmith or some similar upside shooter. Perhaps a negative trade but a plus for team fit.

Ball, Anthony, MCW
Fultz, Nesmith
NAW, Bacon
Isaac, Okeke, Aminu
Vucevic, Birch

Celtics fan here. It seems like the Magic could have a use for a wing prospect. How about Mo Bamba for Romeo Langford straight up?



Langford is younger than Nesmith (just by a few days). He's more NBA-ready as well. In fact, he played 46 minutes in the playoffs last season. Unfortunately, he sustained a wrist injury in the bubble. If it weren't for the injury, I bet he would have started plenty of games this season. He ain't ready to play yet, but he's expected to come back soon. There are no long-term concerns. It's just a wrist injury. He's under team control for one more season compared to Bamba. He's a terrific defender thanks to his length and athleticism. His offensive game is a work in progress.

Didn't he have a wrist injury when he got drafted also?

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[Skybox]

(...) I'd try to follow it by giving Gordon to BOS for Nesmith or some similar upside shooter. Perhaps a negative trade but a plus for team fit.

Ball, Anthony, MCW
Fultz, Nesmith
NAW, Bacon
Isaac, Okeke, Aminu
Vucevic, Birch

Celtics fan here. It seems like the Magic could have a use for a wing prospect. How about Mo Bamba for Romeo Langford straight up?



Langford is younger than Nesmith (just by a few days). He's more NBA-ready as well. In fact, he played 46 minutes in the playoffs last season. Unfortunately, he sustained a wrist injury in the bubble. If it weren't for the injury, I bet he would have started plenty of games this season. He ain't ready to play yet, but he's expected to come back soon. There are no long-term concerns. It's just a wrist injury. He's under team control for one more season compared to Bamba. He's a terrific defender thanks to his length and athleticism. His offensive game is a work in progress.

Didn't he have a wrist injury when he got drafted also?

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Certainly intriguing. Lots of questions on both ends, but also upside at relative position of need. I still believe in Mo, but certainly deserves a look

[jvalin]

(...) I'd try to follow it by giving Gordon to BOS for Nesmith or some similar upside shooter. Perhaps a negative trade but a plus for team fit.

Ball, Anthony, MCW
Fultz, Nesmith
NAW, Bacon
Isaac, Okeke, Aminu
Vucevic, Birch

Celtics fan here. It seems like the Magic could have a use for a wing prospect. How about Mo Bamba for Romeo Langford straight up?



Langford is younger than Nesmith (just by a few days). He's more NBA-ready as well. In fact, he played 46 minutes in the playoffs last season. Unfortunately, he sustained a wrist injury in the bubble. If it weren't for the injury, I bet he would have started plenty of games this season. He ain't ready to play yet, but he's expected to come back soon. There are no long-term concerns. It's just a wrist injury. He's under team control for one more season compared to Bamba. He's a terrific defender thanks to his length and athleticism. His offensive game is a work in progress.

Didn't he have a wrist injury when he got drafted also?

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No, it was a thumb injury. He was playing injured while in college and aggravated it. He did the same thing last season in the bubble. The playoffs were about to begin, hence he decided to play through the injury.

[tiderulz]

(...) I'd try to follow it by giving Gordon to BOS for Nesmith or some similar upside shooter. Perhaps a negative trade but a plus for team fit.

Ball, Anthony, MCW
Fultz, Nesmith
NAW, Bacon
Isaac, Okeke, Aminu
Vucevic, Birch

Celtics fan here. It seems like the Magic could have a use for a wing prospect. How about Mo Bamba for Romeo Langford straight up?



Langford is younger than Nesmith (just by a few days). He's more NBA-ready as well. In fact, he played 46 minutes in the playoffs last season. Unfortunately, he sustained a wrist injury in the bubble. If it weren't for the injury, I bet he would have started plenty of games this season. He ain't ready to play yet, but he's expected to come back soon. There are no long-term concerns. It's just a wrist injury. He's under team control for one more season compared to Bamba. He's a terrific defender thanks to his length and athleticism. His offensive game is a work in progress.

Langford with yet another injury (wrist now not ankle from earlier). With 3 pt shooting at .185, he definitely was not going to start any games. I have seen quite a few articles saying Boston is getting ready to dump him.

[jvalin]

(...) I'd try to follow it by giving Gordon to BOS for Nesmith or some similar upside shooter. Perhaps a negative trade but a plus for team fit.

Ball, Anthony, MCW
Fultz, Nesmith
NAW, Bacon
Isaac, Okeke, Aminu
Vucevic, Birch

Celtics fan here. It seems like the Magic could have a use for a wing prospect. How about Mo Bamba for Romeo Langford straight up?



Langford is younger than Nesmith (just by a few days). He's more NBA-ready as well. In fact, he played 46 minutes in the playoffs last season. Unfortunately, he sustained a wrist injury in the bubble. If it weren't for the injury, I bet he would have started plenty of games this season. He ain't ready to play yet, but he's expected to come back soon. There are no long-term concerns. It's just a wrist injury. He's under team control for one more season compared to Bamba. He's a terrific defender thanks to his length and athleticism. His offensive game is a work in progress.

Langford with yet another injury (wrist now not ankle from earlier). With 3 pt shooting at .185, he definitely was not going to start any games. I have seen quite a few articles saying Boston is getting ready to dump him.

I'm a Celtics fan. Trust me, we aren't ''getting ready to dump'' Romeo. The C's are starting 2 bigs in Theis and Thompson cause we are too thin at the wing positions. Our regular starter at SG is Marcus Smart. Thing is, he was running the point earlier in the season cause we were playing without Kemba. Carsen Edwards started at SG a couple of days ago. 32-year-old Jeff Teague has started 3 games. Even Tremont Waters was given a start who's on a 2-way contract. If you ask me, Romeo would have started plenty of games.

[tiderulz]

Celtics fan here. It seems like the Magic could have a use for a wing prospect. How about Mo Bamba for Romeo Langford straight up?



Langford is younger than Nesmith (just by a few days). He's more NBA-ready as well. In fact, he played 46 minutes in the playoffs last season. Unfortunately, he sustained a wrist injury in the bubble. If it weren't for the injury, I bet he would have started plenty of games this season. He ain't ready to play yet, but he's expected to come back soon. There are no long-term concerns. It's just a wrist injury. He's under team control for one more season compared to Bamba. He's a terrific defender thanks to his length and athleticism. His offensive game is a work in progress.

Langford with yet another injury (wrist now not ankle from earlier). With 3 pt shooting at .185, he definitely was not going to start any games. I have seen quite a few articles saying Boston is getting ready to dump him.

I'm a Celtics fan. Trust me, we aren't ''getting ready to dump'' Romeo. The C's are starting 2 bigs in Theis and Thompson cause we are too thin at the wing positions. Smart is our regular starter at SG. Thing is, he was running the point earlier in the season cause we were playing without Kemba. Carsen Edwards started at the 2 against the Suns a couple of days ago. 32-year-old Jeff Teague has started 3 games. Even Tremont Waters was a given a start who's a 2-way player. If you ask me, Romeo would have started ahead of all these guys.

just a few articles with Langford as a piece. Langford still needs lots of development. He isnt close to being a starter, especially on a Boston team trying to compete for a title.

https://hardwoodhoudini.com/2021/02/07/boston-celtics-trade-spots-langford/
https://www.providencejournal.com/story/sports/nba/celtics/2021/02/08/https-celticswire-usatoday-com-2021-02-08-nba-boston-celtics-trade-coning-soon/4437855001/
https://celticswire.usatoday.com/2021/02/08/nba-boston-celtics-trade-coning-soon/

[jvalin]

Langford with yet another injury (wrist now not ankle from earlier). With 3 pt shooting at .185, he definitely was not going to start any games. I have seen quite a few articles saying Boston is getting ready to dump him.

I'm a Celtics fan. Trust me, we aren't ''getting ready to dump'' Romeo. The C's are starting 2 bigs in Theis and Thompson cause we are too thin at the wing positions. Smart is our regular starter at SG. Thing is, he was running the point earlier in the season cause we were playing without Kemba. Carsen Edwards started at the 2 against the Suns a couple of days ago. 32-year-old Jeff Teague has started 3 games. Even Tremont Waters was a given a start who's a 2-way player. If you ask me, Romeo would have started ahead of all these guys.

just a few articles with Langford as a piece. Langford still needs lots of development. He isnt close to being a starter, especially on a Boston team trying to compete for a title.

https://hardwoodhoudini.com/2021/02/07/boston-celtics-trade-spots-langford/
https://www.providencejournal.com/story/sports/nba/celtics/2021/02/08/https-celticswire-usatoday-com-2021-02-08-nba-boston-celtics-trade-coning-soon/4437855001/
https://celticswire.usatoday.com/2021/02/08/nba-boston-celtics-trade-coning-soon/

Hardwoodhoudini.com? They are just spitballing ideas, just like we do.

I'm pretty sure you can find plenty of trade ideas about anybody on our roster including Tatum and Brown. It doesn't mean we're trying to trade our players. The internet is full of stupid ''rumors'' that never materialized.

[tiderulz]

I'm a Celtics fan. Trust me, we aren't ''getting ready to dump'' Romeo. The C's are starting 2 bigs in Theis and Thompson cause we are too thin at the wing positions. Smart is our regular starter at SG. Thing is, he was running the point earlier in the season cause we were playing without Kemba. Carsen Edwards started at the 2 against the Suns a couple of days ago. 32-year-old Jeff Teague has started 3 games. Even Tremont Waters was a given a start who's a 2-way player. If you ask me, Romeo would have started ahead of all these guys.

just a few articles with Langford as a piece. Langford still needs lots of development. He isnt close to being a starter, especially on a Boston team trying to compete for a title.

https://hardwoodhoudini.com/2021/02/07/boston-celtics-trade-spots-langford/
https://www.providencejournal.com/story/sports/nba/celtics/2021/02/08/https-celticswire-usatoday-com-2021-02-08-nba-boston-celtics-trade-coning-soon/4437855001/
https://celticswire.usatoday.com/2021/02/08/nba-boston-celtics-trade-coning-soon/

Hardwoodhoudini.com? They are just spitballing ideas, just like we do.

I'm pretty sure you can find plenty of trade ideas about anybody on our roster including Tatum and Brown. It doesn't mean we're trying to trade our players. The internet is full of stupid ''rumors'' that never materialized.

Just saying, there is smoke out there. and Langford not looking that great right now, especially with another injury. Value is going to be lower than you want. and his offensive game looks atrocious (similar to Bamba's motor, not saying he is some stellar prospect right now)

[Skybox]

Why isn't Nesmith getting more run? He really seems like he could be a more athletic, defensively-skilled, young Kyle Korver. Send him over please...I primarily wanted a scoring creator like Maxey. Cole is same vein and I've become happy with him but I really wanted to find a way to get Nesmith in addition, even though spot up shooting was a secondary need for ORL (after creation).

[MotownMadness]

What do you guys think Vucevic would cost in a trade? I was thinking something around the Hornets with a lottery protected 1st?

[The Real Dalic]

What do you guys think Vucevic would cost in a trade? I was thinking something around the Hornets with a lottery protected 1st?

I'd take Bridges and Washington from them if they wouldn't mind parting with them. Not sure a lottery protected pick gets me that excited for a trade though. I'd ask for a non-protected pick for sure from them. Even though a core of Graham, Rozier, Ball, Hayward, and Vuc would definitely make the playoffs in the East making it a non-lottery pick anyway.

But I wouldn't want them tanking on purpose to end up with Vuc for free if they deal with injuries or the trade doesn't end up working for them.

[Def Swami]

I don't think the Warriors would do this, but I'd try to get the Minnesota 2021 1st round pick for Vucevic. We'd take back Wiggins' contract as well.

[MotownMadness]

What do you guys think Vucevic would cost in a trade? I was thinking something around the Hornets with a lottery protected 1st?

I'd take Bridges and Washington from them if they wouldn't mind parting with them. Not sure a lottery protected pick gets me that excited for a trade though. I'd ask for a non-protected pick for sure from them. Even though a core of Graham, Rozier, Ball, Hayward, and Vuc would definitely make the playoffs in the East making it a non-lottery pick anyway.

But I wouldn't want them tanking on purpose to end up with Vuc for free if they deal with injuries or the trade doesn't end up working for them.

Maybe top 8-10 protected would make more sense seeing as Vooch is locked up and still pretty good.

[The Real Dalic]

What do you guys think Vucevic would cost in a trade? I was thinking something around the Hornets with a lottery protected 1st?

I'd take Bridges and Washington from them if they wouldn't mind parting with them. Not sure a lottery protected pick gets me that excited for a trade though. I'd ask for a non-protected pick for sure from them. Even though a core of Graham, Rozier, Ball, Hayward, and Vuc would definitely make the playoffs in the East making it a non-lottery pick anyway.

But I wouldn't want them tanking on purpose to end up with Vuc for free if they deal with injuries or the trade doesn't end up working for them.

Maybe top 8-10 protected would make more sense seeing as Vooch is locked up and still pretty good.

If the Hornets were interested at all in Vuc, they'd actually be a pretty good trading partner, imo. They have some young pieces that I'm sure they wouldn't mind giving up or a pick. Not a bad team to call, honestly.

[The Real Dalic]

I don't think the Warriors would do this, but I'd try to get the Minnesota 2021 1st round pick for Vucevic. We'd take back Wiggins' contract as well.

Don't they like Wiggins a lot over there?