Official Summer 2024 Magic Free Agency and Trade Ideas Thread 3.0

[pepe1991]

It's empty free agency to have money. Who are you aiming at? Lowry and Hayward? It's not 2017.

[Knightro]

The Magic are very likely gonna win something like 45 games this year. They might finish above the play in.

Does anyone *actually* think Weltman is going to run the risk of the team taking a step backwards record wise next year by letting his starting point guard walk away for nothing in free agency and just handing the reigns over to a 20-year-old with less than 1000 minutes under his belt?

C'mon now.

[Skybox]

IF they couldn't stomach going all-in for a big hit, I really can't see how they couldn't sacrifice DEN pick (or even just srps) and Fultz or Harris (expiring) for vet shooter-even just as an experiment.

I love TOR's deal for Agbaji and Olynyk, even though many are questioning the direction. Olynyk is a pending UFA, but he is like a big Ingles...good guy, Canadian, great shooter, great passer. Now they have him in-house and, if it goes well, he's likely to stay on a team-friendly deal. Agbaji, so overlooked, is a bigger, younger Gary Harris...that's, at worst, a rotation guy who actually plays D and could become even more.

I'm kind of okay with not having the balls to fix the SL, but there's really no excuse to not improve the end of the rotation with srps and guys who shouldn't have a future with the team. AB has more ceiling than Fultz but, for now at least, they're both impotent offensively...for AB to get basically a DNP in a blow-out is ridiculous. We didn't make a move to compete and we're not making an effort to develop our in-house guys like AB and Jett

I'm not saying tank and develop ( I would have gone the other direction and drive for Top 4 for the next 5 years) but choose a f**king course.

[BadMofoPimp]

IF they couldn't stomach going all-in for a big hit, I really can't see how they couldn't sacrifice DEN pick (or even just srps) and Fultz or Harris (expiring) for vet shooter-even just as an experiment.

I love TOR's deal for Agbaji and Olynyk, even though many are questioning the direction. Olynyk is a pending UFA, but he is like a big Ingles...good guy, Canadian, great shooter, great passer. Now they have him in-house and, if it goes well, he's likely to stay on a team-friendly deal. Agbaji, so overlooked, is a bigger, younger Gary Harris...that's, at worst, a rotation guy who actually plays D and could become even more.

I'm kind of okay with not having the balls to fix the SL, but there's really no excuse to not improve the end of the rotation with srps and guys who shouldn't have a future with the team. AB has more ceiling than Fultz but, for now at least, they're both impotent offensively...for AB to get basically a DNP in a blow-out is ridiculous. We didn't make a move to compete and we're not making an effort to develop our in-house guys like AB and Jett

I'm not saying tank and develop ( I would have gone the other direction and drive for Top 4 for the next 5 years) but choose a f**king course.

FYI. AB didn't get a DNP.

[pepe1991]

Keep in mind, most of those players actually won't hit FA.
I just want to illustrate how dry FA is, and in this FA you will be tasked to spend money worth near max.

[Skybox]

IF they couldn't stomach going all-in for a big hit, I really can't see how they couldn't sacrifice DEN pick (or even just srps) and Fultz or Harris (expiring) for vet shooter-even just as an experiment.

I love TOR's deal for Agbaji and Olynyk, even though many are questioning the direction. Olynyk is a pending UFA, but he is like a big Ingles...good guy, Canadian, great shooter, great passer. Now they have him in-house and, if it goes well, he's likely to stay on a team-friendly deal. Agbaji, so overlooked, is a bigger, younger Gary Harris...that's, at worst, a rotation guy who actually plays D and could become even more.

I'm kind of okay with not having the balls to fix the SL, but there's really no excuse to not improve the end of the rotation with srps and guys who shouldn't have a future with the team. AB has more ceiling than Fultz but, for now at least, they're both impotent offensively...for AB to get basically a DNP in a blow-out is ridiculous. We didn't make a move to compete and we're not making an effort to develop our in-house guys like AB and Jett

I'm not saying tank and develop ( I would have gone the other direction and drive for Top 4 for the next 5 years) but choose a f**king course.

FYI. AB didn't get a DNP.

I said "Basically a DNP"...Black, Caleb, Chuma, Goga 2:53...clearing the bench, human victory cigars

[Skybox]

IF they couldn't stomach going all-in for a big hit, I really can't see how they couldn't sacrifice DEN pick (or even just srps) and Fultz or Harris (expiring) for vet shooter-even just as an experiment.

I love TOR's deal for Agbaji and Olynyk, even though many are questioning the direction. Olynyk is a pending UFA, but he is like a big Ingles...good guy, Canadian, great shooter, great passer. Now they have him in-house and, if it goes well, he's likely to stay on a team-friendly deal. Agbaji, so overlooked, is a bigger, younger Gary Harris...that's, at worst, a rotation guy who actually plays D and could become even more.

I'm kind of okay with not having the balls to fix the SL, but there's really no excuse to not improve the end of the rotation with srps and guys who shouldn't have a future with the team. AB has more ceiling than Fultz but, for now at least, they're both impotent offensively...for AB to get basically a DNP in a blow-out is ridiculous. We didn't make a move to compete and we're not making an effort to develop our in-house guys like AB and Jett

I'm not saying tank and develop ( I would have gone the other direction and drive for Top 4 for the next 5 years) but choose a f**king course.

FYI. AB didn't get a DNP.

I said "Basically a DNP"...Black, Caleb, Chuma, Goga 2:53...clearing the bench, human victory cigars

His stat line 2:53 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 2 0 0 0 1 0

[BadMofoPimp]

IF they couldn't stomach going all-in for a big hit, I really can't see how they couldn't sacrifice DEN pick (or even just srps) and Fultz or Harris (expiring) for vet shooter-even just as an experiment.

I love TOR's deal for Agbaji and Olynyk, even though many are questioning the direction. Olynyk is a pending UFA, but he is like a big Ingles...good guy, Canadian, great shooter, great passer. Now they have him in-house and, if it goes well, he's likely to stay on a team-friendly deal. Agbaji, so overlooked, is a bigger, younger Gary Harris...that's, at worst, a rotation guy who actually plays D and could become even more.

I'm kind of okay with not having the balls to fix the SL, but there's really no excuse to not improve the end of the rotation with srps and guys who shouldn't have a future with the team. AB has more ceiling than Fultz but, for now at least, they're both impotent offensively...for AB to get basically a DNP in a blow-out is ridiculous. We didn't make a move to compete and we're not making an effort to develop our in-house guys like AB and Jett

I'm not saying tank and develop ( I would have gone the other direction and drive for Top 4 for the next 5 years) but choose a f**king course.

FYI. AB didn't get a DNP.

I said "Basically a DNP"...Black, Caleb, Chuma, Goga 2:53...clearing the bench, human victory cigars

I think AB will be great in the future. He needs to earn his playing time first on a team that is fighting for playoff position. Mosely knows what he is doing. He just needs to sit tight and work on his game. Game may have ended in a blowout, but the Spurs were within 10 in the 4th quarter at one point and Mosely probably thought that he didn't want to jeopardize the lead.

[Skybox]

FYI. AB didn't get a DNP.

I said "Basically a DNP"...Black, Caleb, Chuma, Goga 2:53...clearing the bench, human victory cigars

I think AB will be great in the future. He needs to earn his playing time first on a team that is fighting for playoff position. Mosely knows what he is doing. He just needs to sit tight and work on his game.

I hope my post didn't say differently...my point is PLAY HIM. Fultz shouldn't have a future here. If we're going to settle for finishing the season out without making a move for a PG that can score, then we might as well let the kid try...he's got a future.

My preference would have been bring in a better vet like Murray, Brogdon, etc and let Black develop and get bench minutes. Playing Fultz AND letting AB rot seems like the worst possible direction.

[VFX]

Keep in mind, most of those players actually won't hit FA.
I just want to illustrate how dry FA is, and in this FA you will be tasked to spend money worth near max.

This just says “we are resigning Fultz to a 1+1 for an obscene amount of money because we are stupid”.

That’s what this list tells me.

[Skybox]

FYI. AB didn't get a DNP.

I said "Basically a DNP"...Black, Caleb, Chuma, Goga 2:53...clearing the bench, human victory cigars

I think AB will be great in the future. He needs to earn his playing time first on a team that is fighting for playoff position. Mosely knows what he is doing. He just needs to sit tight and work on his game. Game may have ended in a blowout, but the Spurs were within 10 in the 4th quarter at one point and Mosely probably thought that he didn't want to jeopardize the lead.

I don't know how to interpret this other than "he's not even a backup PG now"...which I disagree with. He's capable of contributing. He kept things together during the winning streak. He didn't contribute offensively, but he wasn't an overall negative. No different than Fultz, IMO.

It's just absurd to me that our PG rotation is those two. IF the point is to win with the crap we have - Franz is the PG...not because he should be but because no-one else should be.

[BadMofoPimp]

I said "Basically a DNP"...Black, Caleb, Chuma, Goga 2:53...clearing the bench, human victory cigars

I think AB will be great in the future. He needs to earn his playing time first on a team that is fighting for playoff position. Mosely knows what he is doing. He just needs to sit tight and work on his game.

I hope my post didn't say differently...my point is PLAY HIM. Fultz shouldn't have a future here. If we're going to settle for finishing the season out without making a move for a PG that can score, then we might as well let the kid try...he's got a future.

My preference would have been bring in a better vet like Murray, Brogdon, etc and let Black develop and get bench minutes. Playing Fultz AND letting AB rot seems like the worst possible direction.

The key word is "Seems". If a team is making a push for the playoffs, they have no reason to force the team to play a player who would hurt the team more than another player only because some fans want it. AB will get his chance in due time. There is no need to force the issue. He will get burn once he "Earns" it.

[Skybox]

I think AB will be great in the future. He needs to earn his playing time first on a team that is fighting for playoff position. Mosely knows what he is doing. He just needs to sit tight and work on his game.

I hope my post didn't say differently...my point is PLAY HIM. Fultz shouldn't have a future here. If we're going to settle for finishing the season out without making a move for a PG that can score, then we might as well let the kid try...he's got a future.

My preference would have been bring in a better vet like Murray, Brogdon, etc and let Black develop and get bench minutes. Playing Fultz AND letting AB rot seems like the worst possible direction.

The key word is "Seems". If a team is making a push for the playoffs, they have no reason to force the team to play a player who would hurt the team more than another player only because some fans want it. AB will get his chance in due time. There is no need to force the issue. He will get burn once he "Earns" it.

I'd totally agree with that if we had a viable NBA PG ahead of him. We don't. The gap isn't substantial enough...the real answer died yesterday afternoon...now we're arguing between bad solutions.

[Furinkazan]

Keep in mind, most of those players actually won't hit FA.
I just want to illustrate how dry FA is, and in this FA you will be tasked to spend money worth near max.

dont bother with that list we are re signing Fultz for max

[JoshuaPotter]

Meanwhile at our teams college farm......
https://www.espn.com/watch/player/_/id/39318874

#family

[MartinsIzAfraud]

The Magic are very likely gonna win something like 45 games this year. They might finish above the play in.

Does anyone *actually* think Weltman is going to run the risk of the team taking a step backwards record wise next year by letting his starting point guard walk away for nothing in free agency and just handing the reigns over to a 20-year-old with less than 1000 minutes under his belt?

C'mon now.

BINGOOOOO idk how many more times you, me & MagicMatic can say the same thing. He's going to get a 1+1 deal for like 20-25M and we're going to basically run it all back with probably 1 more minor FA signing ala Ingles.

[89Magicfan]

So several teams think ATL trades Trae in the off season.

Maybe we get in on that?

[tooler]

I wish before we had locked in our family that we had found a functional NBA point guard and more shooting off the bench.

Whatever you think about WCJ, Isaac, Cole, Harris -- all that's fine. That's family. We can roll with it and see what happens. But not with two such glaring, gaping holes on the roster.

[MartinsIzAfraud]

So several teams think ATL trades Trae in the off season.

Maybe we get in on that?

Spurs would have to be the front runner

[Bergmaniac]

The Magic are very likely gonna win something like 45 games this year. They might finish above the play in.

Does anyone *actually* think Weltman is going to run the risk of the team taking a step backwards record wise next year by letting his starting point guard walk away for nothing in free agency and just handing the reigns over to a 20-year-old with less than 1000 minutes under his belt?

C'mon now.

BINGOOOOO idk how many more times you, me & MagicMatic can say the same thing. He's going to get a 1+1 deal for like 20-25M and we're going to basically run it all back with probably 1 more minor FA signing ala Ingles.

Unless his TOS situation drastically improves in the next two months and he starts shooting at least as well as he did last season there is no way in hell he is getting such a contract or anything close to it. He has made a total of 3 shots outside of 16 feet all season and is currently averaging 8.8/3.7/3.2 on horrible scoring efficiency (51 TS%). He is also hasn't gotten to the line at all in two thirds of his games this season despite almost all of his shot attempts being in the paint.