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Post#541 » by teefbe » Thu Feb 9, 2017 4:19 pm

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teefbe wrote:People, if Butler or George or any other legitimate all star was available they would be going to Boston. Celtics have every asset in the world to outbid rest of the league, deal with it.



yeah on paper they do...but Ainge doesnt want to part with that pick no matter what


And hes right. Gordon,Hezonja,Green/Ibaka, 1st round 2017 + Lakers pick. That's the offer you can show Bulls for Butler and they will still refuse but at least u tried.
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Re: The Trade Thread II 

Post#542 » by Furinkazan » Thu Feb 9, 2017 4:23 pm

teefbe wrote:
~Snoopy~ wrote:
teefbe wrote:People, if Butler or George or any other legitimate all star was available they would be going to Boston. Celtics have every asset in the world to outbid rest of the league, deal with it.



yeah on paper they do...but Ainge doesnt want to part with that pick no matter what


And hes right. Gordon,Hezonja,Green/Ibaka, 1st round 2017 + Lakers pick. That's the offer you can show Bulls for Butler and they will still refuse but at least u tried.

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Re: The Trade Thread II 

Post#543 » by teefbe » Thu Feb 9, 2017 4:25 pm

teefbe wrote:
~Snoopy~ wrote:
teefbe wrote:People, if Butler or George or any other legitimate all star was available they would be going to Boston. Celtics have every asset in the world to outbid rest of the league, deal with it.



yeah on paper they do...but Ainge doesnt want to part with that pick no matter what


And hes right. Gordon,Hezonja,Green/Ibaka, 1st round 2017 + Lakers pick. That's the offer you can show Bulls for Butler and they will still refuse but at least u tried.


+ personally i hate that type of offer and i'd rather tank and select an all star caliber player in this year draft and play Hezonja more so we can figure out him. Then let AG00 have another summer of workouts and see what he is capable of doing in his contract year.
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Re: The Trade Thread II 

Post#544 » by magicfan4life88 » Thu Feb 9, 2017 4:41 pm

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yeah on paper they do...but Ainge doesnt want to part with that pick no matter what


And hes right. Gordon,Hezonja,Green/Ibaka, 1st round 2017 + Lakers pick. That's the offer you can show Bulls for Butler and they will still refuse but at least u tried.

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yea the cavs are going to sign Derrick Williams to a 10day, thought they needed point guard help
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Post#545 » by Blue_and_Whte » Thu Feb 9, 2017 4:46 pm

I just hope we lose again tonight.
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Post#546 » by magicfan4life88 » Thu Feb 9, 2017 4:53 pm

Blue_and_Whte wrote:I just hope we lose again tonight.


I'm not good at taking L's even though its for the better, lol
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Post#547 » by teefbe » Thu Feb 9, 2017 4:55 pm

Blue_and_Whte wrote:I just hope we lose again tonight.


It came down to the point that we root for our team to LOSE so management realizes how bad this team is. It's pitiful, but if we're true Magic fans we really want the best for this team and the best thing right now is to tank..
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Re: The Trade Thread II 

Post#548 » by Furinkazan » Thu Feb 9, 2017 4:58 pm

teefbe wrote:
teefbe wrote:
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yeah on paper they do...but Ainge doesnt want to part with that pick no matter what


And hes right. Gordon,Hezonja,Green/Ibaka, 1st round 2017 + Lakers pick. That's the offer you can show Bulls for Butler and they will still refuse but at least u tried.


+ personally i hate that type of offer and i'd rather tank and select an all star caliber player in this year draft and play Hezonja more so we can figure out him. Then let AG00 have another summer of workouts and see what he is capable of doing in his contract year.



Id do that too If i could make that pick myslef...I dont trust Henningan.He is going to waste that pick again.
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Post#549 » by Blue_and_Whte » Thu Feb 9, 2017 4:58 pm

magicfan4life88 wrote:
Blue_and_Whte wrote:I just hope we lose again tonight.


I'm not good at taking L's even though its for the better, lol

Me either. I secretly fist pump when we do well and win but I know its pointless and does nothing but hurt our draft position which is the only highlight of this season.
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Re: The Trade Thread II 

Post#550 » by Furinkazan » Thu Feb 9, 2017 5:01 pm

magicfan4life88 wrote:
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teefbe wrote:
And hes right. Gordon,Hezonja,Green/Ibaka, 1st round 2017 + Lakers pick. That's the offer you can show Bulls for Butler and they will still refuse but at least u tried.

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yea the cavs are going to sign Derrick Williams to a 10day, thought they needed point guard help



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Post#551 » by tiderulz » Thu Feb 9, 2017 5:26 pm

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Yes please.

Gordon, Ibaka's expiring and the Magic's 2017 and 2019 firsts. PLEASE let this be real. the Magic could even swallow Robin Lopez's deal to sweeten the pot (by adding Green and Meeks as further expirings).


The result would be a core around Payton, Fournier, Butler and Vučević. The FA market could bring in a good PF.

This Magic roster is starting to look like it could sniff 40 wins and has a great deal of growth left to be found.

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with contracts on the books and no 1st round picks for a few years, where would that growth come from? I like Butler, but that is too much

im thinking the growth he may be referring to is Payton and Fournier, they are still young, we still have Zimmerman and Vuc, and then the team can grow with FA signings


no one big with those current contracts on the books. And Elf due a new one here real soon too
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Post#552 » by magicfan4life88 » Thu Feb 9, 2017 5:40 pm

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with contracts on the books and no 1st round picks for a few years, where would that growth come from? I like Butler, but that is too much

im thinking the growth he may be referring to is Payton and Fournier, they are still young, we still have Zimmerman and Vuc, and then the team can grow with FA signings


no one big with those current contracts on the books. And Elf due a new one here real soon too

we are trading 38mil and getting back 40mil, we still have about 5 mil in expirings and the cap is going up
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Post#553 » by magicfan4life88 » Thu Feb 9, 2017 5:41 pm

oops forgot the part about taking in robin lopez
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Post#554 » by tiderulz » Thu Feb 9, 2017 5:57 pm

magicfan4life88 wrote:
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magicfan4life88 wrote:im thinking the growth he may be referring to is Payton and Fournier, they are still young, we still have Zimmerman and Vuc, and then the team can grow with FA signings


no one big with those current contracts on the books. And Elf due a new one here real soon too

we are trading 38mil and getting back 40mil, we still have about 5 mil in expirings and the cap is going up

thought i saw the cap going down next year
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Re: The Trade Thread II 

Post#555 » by magicfan4life88 » Thu Feb 9, 2017 6:01 pm

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no one big with those current contracts on the books. And Elf due a new one here real soon too

we are trading 38mil and getting back 40mil, we still have about 5 mil in expirings and the cap is going up

thought i saw the cap going down next year

no, its going up, itll be 102 the minimum, I wish I could find the article but im at work so my web surfing is limited
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Post#557 » by magicfan4life88 » Thu Feb 9, 2017 6:49 pm

I'll take their firstround pick and tyler Johnson for Ibaka, green, meeks, not a fan of Johnson really but hes talented
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Post#558 » by teefbe » Thu Feb 9, 2017 7:27 pm

magicfan4life88 wrote:I'll take their firstround pick and tyler Johnson for Ibaka, green, meeks, not a fan of Johnson really but hes talented

They wont give up lottery pick for Ibaka..cmon people how can you constanly come up with this delusional wishes? You know what Rileys offer would be? James Jonhson, Luka Babbit and 2nd rounder. They are not giving up on T.Jonhson either.
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Post#559 » by Furinkazan » Thu Feb 9, 2017 7:33 pm

teefbe wrote:
magicfan4life88 wrote:I'll take their firstround pick and tyler Johnson for Ibaka, green, meeks, not a fan of Johnson really but hes talented

They wont give up lottery pick for Ibaka..cmon people how can you constanly come up with this delusional wishes? You know what Rileys offer would be? James Jonhson, Luka Babbit and 2nd rounder. They are not giving up on T.Jonhson either.

lottery pick?
if they go for Ibaka that means they go hard for that playoff spot...and I bet they could make it with him
...yeah east is that bad....meaning that pick wont be anywhere near lottery.
i agree on the Babbit offer... Riley will offer that crap 100% certain
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Re: The Trade Thread II 

Post#560 » by magicfan4life88 » Thu Feb 9, 2017 7:45 pm

teefbe wrote:
magicfan4life88 wrote:I'll take their firstround pick and tyler Johnson for Ibaka, green, meeks, not a fan of Johnson really but hes talented

They wont give up lottery pick for Ibaka..cmon people how can you constanly come up with this delusional wishes? You know what Rileys offer would be? James Jonhson, Luka Babbit and 2nd rounder. They are not giving up on T.Jonhson either.

did I say they would accept? everyone has their opinion on what they are willing to give and what they want in return, this is how I feel about trading him to them, he ripped us off with SVG, if he wants Ibaka he should pay for it plain and simple, I'm sure we can get better offers then what he'd offer elsewhere
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