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Official Speculation Thread '20-'21 VI: "I like this team"

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Re: Official Speculation Thread '20-'21 VI: 

Post#541 » by The Effect » Sat Nov 21, 2020 7:02 am

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The Effect wrote:I'm so jealous of the thunder

Their gm was smart enough to realize that the team was stuck and going nowhere, so what did he do? He literally traded away the entire and loaded up with like 20 1st round picks over the next 5 years.... Which just happen to be considered stacked drafts the next 2 years, with real SUPERSTARS.... That's how you do it!
But no, we have guys that are satisfied with 8th season, status quo, don't rock the boat mentality. Trade away cheap talent for future 2nd rounders and think that's a big move

These guy have done nothing in 4 off-seasons here except add a couple pieces to hennigans teams.

He also had stars to trade we don’t. Will he hit in the draft, that’s TBD. A lot of these picks are likely to be late. We’ve had picks 2, 4, 13, 5, 11, 6, 6 and look where that’s gotten us. There’s no guarantee with high picks. At some point you have to win some games.


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I'll take that chance vs rolling out the same team over and over. If you're not a big market, you have to get your stars in the draft, well we aren't get luka to come sign here, we have to draft them. HIGH., Can just keep drafting at 15 and expecting to find a superstar just cause we ham did it once with giannis.

This team as constructed is not a playoff team in 21. They also don't have any stars. So if we aren't going to fix that through the draft, how are we gonna do? By wasting what little money we have on the aminus of the league? By signing udfa or g league players like bacon?

I'm sorry, but if you have a better plan than building through the draft, please share with the rest of us cause what weham are doing now.....isn't working!
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Re: Official Speculation Thread '20-'21 VI: "I like this team" 

Post#542 » by KillMonger » Sat Nov 21, 2020 7:04 am

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KillMonger wrote:I'm thinking they didn't want to make moves to jeopardize the playoffs...they can sell playoffs to fans they can't sell a rebuild....problem is i don't know if we make the playoffs this upcoming season....teams that were injured are healthy now and for example washington? they got legitimate stars

We're a 10th seed at best next year with all these team reloading and getting healthy


With Minnesota and Golden State both improved, the 10 seed in the East could very well be the 5th or 6th pick.

There's no team in the West who appears to be awful on paper.

It really may not take much for the Magic to end up with a high draft pick.

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Re: Official Speculation Thread '20-'21 VI: "I like this team" 

Post#543 » by The Effect » Sat Nov 21, 2020 7:08 am

KillMonger wrote:
Knightro wrote:
The Effect wrote:We're a 10th seed at best next year with all these team reloading and getting healthy


With Minnesota and Golden State both improved, the 10 seed in the East could very well be the 5th or 6th pick.

There's no team in the West who appears to be awful on paper.

It really may not take much for the Magic to end up with a high draft pick.

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Only if it means a new FO at the end of the years

Sad how much I miss the days of Hennigans

Sure he had no balls and cut short his rebuild to accommodate his coaches (that were forced on him), but atleast he had a real eye for talent, and a real plan to get it done. These guys make one move an off-season call it a day and then pick up again during the season when someone get hurt

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Re: Official Speculation Thread '20-'21 VI: "I like this team" 

Post#544 » by pepe1991 » Sat Nov 21, 2020 8:47 am

Pistons, Bulls, Cavs, Knicks, Hornets, OKC, Spurs, Kings . You are not outtanking any of them.
I highly doubt Hawks and T wolves will win more than 32 games. No defense, chucking of "stars", best offensive players by default worst defenders.

I think Warriors could be on ugly slippery slope and end up being 25 wins team that can't defend at any position.

Still very much questionable how Memphis and Pelicans end up being. Can SVG work his magic with Lonzo, Zion?

Oh and there are Wizards. Who's starting PG didn't play basketball since 2018.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread '20-'21 VI: "I like this team" 

Post#545 » by MoMM » Sat Nov 21, 2020 8:53 am

pepe1991 wrote:Oh and there are Wizards. Who's starting PG didn't play basketball since 2018.

And now is demanding a trade because he was involved in trade talks... come on!
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Re: Official Speculation Thread '20-'21 VI: "I like this team" 

Post#546 » by pepe1991 » Sat Nov 21, 2020 8:58 am

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pepe1991 wrote:Oh and there are Wizards. Who's starting PG didn't play basketball since 2018.

And now is demanding a trade because he was involved in trade talks... come on!


Really? hahahahaha i had no clue. Jesus Christ.

Guy was always one of most overrated allstars out there. I remember even when Wizards were good how much he hurted offense with his shot selection, despite ,at times him having way better alternatives like Beal, Porter, Bogdanovic :crazy:

Guy is career 26,7% threee point shooter in playoffs on 44,5% eFG :x

Pain is real. Where he wants to go? That price tag of $132 860 000 over next 3 years is GDP of some country

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It's amazing how delusional some nba players are. If i'm owners guys like him are execlly reason i'm fighting for always just partially guaranteed contracts. You can't make $40 M a year, not play for 2 years and demand anything.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread '20-'21 VI: "I like this team" 

Post#547 » by drsd » Sat Nov 21, 2020 9:28 am

Undrafted Canadian guard Karim Mane signs with Orlando Magic


Is this a two-way deal?



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This is hilarious, his NBAdraft.net comparison is, ......, Dwayne Bacon !



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Re: Official Speculation Thread '20-'21 VI: "I like this team" 

Post#548 » by drsd » Sat Nov 21, 2020 9:34 am

Michigan center Jon Teske signs with NBA’s Orlando Magic


This also must be a two-way deal, right?
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Re: Official Speculation Thread '20-'21 VI: "I like this team" 

Post#549 » by drsd » Sat Nov 21, 2020 9:34 am

Are there Exhibit 10 contracts this year?
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Re: Official Speculation Thread '20-'21 VI: "I like this team" 

Post#550 » by cedric76 » Sat Nov 21, 2020 9:59 am

I really like what weham r doing so far, we r keeping our flexibility for next summer and preparing to give plenty minutes to our young guys
Sign SRP to (1.2M) and Cain (2.5M)
use UP to the Full TPMLE (~$6.1M)
Spend up (11M$ - the amount we spent on the TPMLE)
waive + stretch Jonathan Isaac

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Franz,TDS,Cain
P5,Prince,Penda
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Re: Official Speculation Thread '20-'21 VI: "I like this team" 

Post#551 » by pepe1991 » Sat Nov 21, 2020 10:19 am

Fultz / Cole
Evan /ross
Ennis/ Bacon
Gordon / Okeke
Vuc/ Bamba


Man i have never been less exited about nba season in my whole life :lol:
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Re: Official Speculation Thread '20-'21 VI: "I like this team" 

Post#552 » by RookieStar » Sat Nov 21, 2020 10:47 am

:cry:
drsd wrote:Are there Exhibit 10 contracts this year?


Yeah the Canadian Bacon or Gucci Mane ( you gotta admit he already has cool nicknames )
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Re: Official Speculation Thread '20-'21 VI: "I like this team" 

Post#553 » by cedric76 » Sat Nov 21, 2020 10:49 am

Fultz / Cole / mcw
Evan /ross / bacon
Ennis/ chuma /Bacon
Gordon / chief / chuma
Vuc/ Bamba / birch

Mcw should be signed soon

I love it
Sign SRP to (1.2M) and Cain (2.5M)
use UP to the Full TPMLE (~$6.1M)
Spend up (11M$ - the amount we spent on the TPMLE)
waive + stretch Jonathan Isaac

Suggs,AB,Jase
Bane,GTJ,AB
Franz,TDS,Cain
P5,Prince,Penda
WCJ,Goga,SRP
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Re: Official Speculation Thread '20-'21 VI: "I like this team" 

Post#554 » by fendilim » Sat Nov 21, 2020 11:03 am

cedric76 wrote:Fultz / Cole / mcw
Evan /ross / bacon
Ennis/ chuma /Bacon
Gordon / chief / chuma
Vuc/ Bamba / birch

Mcw should be signed soon

I love it

No batum? :(
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Re: Official Speculation Thread '20-'21 VI: "I like this team" 

Post#555 » by j-ragg » Sat Nov 21, 2020 11:10 am

cedric76 wrote:I really like what weham r doing so far, we r keeping our flexibility for next summer and preparing to give plenty minutes to our young guys

Do you work for Weltman?

There’s no indication we’ll have cap space next summer and no indication there’ll be plenty of minutes for young guys.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread '20-'21 VI: "I like this team" 

Post#556 » by j-ragg » Sat Nov 21, 2020 11:11 am

Read on Twitter
BadMofoPimp wrote:Durant thinks Vooch is one of the Best Centers in the NBA. I will take his word over a couch-GM yelling at a TV.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread '20-'21 VI: "I like this team" 

Post#557 » by fendilim » Sat Nov 21, 2020 11:29 am

Well, it is too late to tank now with New Orleans and OKC collecting most of the picks now
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Re: Official Speculation Thread '20-'21 VI: "I like this team" 

Post#558 » by pepe1991 » Sat Nov 21, 2020 11:35 am

j-ragg wrote:
Read on Twitter


False :dontknow:

Beal and Wall
Tristan Thompson- Kevin Love
Gerry Harris - Will Barton
Giannis MIddelton
Roberson- up until yesterday Adams

What all of them have in common is that they were around 2014 under rookie contracts and re-signed for their teams. So this isn't really that suprising.

They also all play on smaller market teams, not suprising if you know FAs don't go there.

Conley, Marc Gasol and Randolph spent like 7 years together.
Magic matching that with Gordon- Vuc- Evan lineup that is now entering 7th season together.

End of that "era" is close regardless, as Gordon is soon to be UFA, Evan is UFA after this year and it's matter of time when Vuc is traded.

I wouldn't put too much stock into data like this one.
if you look at back at salary cap in 2014-15, Gordon Vuc and Evan combined for $9M together.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread '20-'21 VI: "I like this team" 

Post#559 » by MartinsIzAfraud » Sat Nov 21, 2020 11:50 am

Just rearranged a few chairs on the sinking titanic. Some of y’all have this FO balls so deep down your throat it’s funny. :lol:
New FO New HC '27 :nod:
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Re: Official Speculation Thread '20-'21 VI: "I like this team" 

Post#560 » by cedric76 » Sat Nov 21, 2020 11:53 am

fendilim wrote:
cedric76 wrote:Fultz / Cole / mcw
Evan /ross / bacon
Ennis/ chuma /Bacon
Gordon / chief / chuma
Vuc/ Bamba / birch

Mcw should be signed soon

I love it

No batum? :(


he is still under contract, no buy out yet
Sign SRP to (1.2M) and Cain (2.5M)
use UP to the Full TPMLE (~$6.1M)
Spend up (11M$ - the amount we spent on the TPMLE)
waive + stretch Jonathan Isaac

Suggs,AB,Jase
Bane,GTJ,AB
Franz,TDS,Cain
P5,Prince,Penda
WCJ,Goga,SRP

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