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Re: Official 2025-2026 Magic Trade ideas thread 

Post#541 » by RichCollab » Sat Jun 21, 2025 5:50 pm

Moe and Cole were our bench offense.

AB did match Cole’s points per game but had to play 6 more minutes.
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Post#542 » by yoyojw17 » Sat Jun 21, 2025 6:13 pm

RichCollab wrote:Moe and Cole were our bench offense.

AB did match Cole’s points per game but had to play 6 more minutes.


I guess we will see what the front office 's expectations are of our young guys. Most people will in one breath say... Oh they're young.... And all young guys need time to develop..... But then gauge them on "what have you done for me lately" when their frustration rise. Lol

And no matter how we feel..... The FO are the ones that are most in tune with these players. They see the work and growth behind the scenes.... And they will determine what needs to be done based off of their evaluation. And with the amount of patience that the FO does have ... I won't count our rookies out until they are traded.

-We win when AB plays well.... That's definitely a huge plus.
-Tristan stepped up in his rookie season when we weren't healthy and shrank when the guys came back.
- jett played one season in the gleague and then joined our team this year.... Playing mainly during the most dysfunctional times. Shoot.... His number look reminiscent of Aaron neismith's first two seasons. Then things clicked more and more. Not guaranteeing that outcome ... But will never know if not given the proper chance either.

But.... As I said... They will make their decisions on the growth that they see. Can holes be filled internally or do we have to look elsewhere. I guess we will see.
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Post#543 » by Bakomagic » Sat Jun 21, 2025 6:21 pm

I’d be happy with signing brogdon and bringing back Mo. that will give us plenty of scoring off the bench and Brogdon could play PG or SG when needed. He also be a great vet presence, like a rich man’s Cojo or poor man’s Bane.

Suggs/Brogdon
Bane/AB
Franz/TDS
P5/JI
WCjr/Mo/Goga
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Post#544 » by RichCollab » Sat Jun 21, 2025 6:23 pm

Bakomagic wrote:I’d be happy with signing brogdon and bringing back Mo. that will give us plenty of scoring off the bench and Brogdon could play PG or SG when needed. He also be a great vet presence, like a rich man’s Cojo or poor man’s Bane.

Suggs/Brogdon
Bane/AB
Franz/TDS
P5/JI
WCjr/Mo/Goga


Will Brogdon play more than 20 games?
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Post#545 » by Skybox » Sat Jun 21, 2025 6:30 pm

#1
ORL sends: Wendell Carter Jr, #25, ORL 26 srp
MIN sends: Donte Divincenzo, #17
Why MIN: Carter allows MIN to let Naz Reid go and re-sign Randle (or the opposite). WCJ is versatile and physical enough to play C or PF with Gobert/Randle as a powerful big man trio for MIN. DDV is an extremely versatile combo guard and would play big minutes with both starting guards. MIN has Dillingham and Shannon ready to pick up DDV's minutes and more.

#2
ORL sends: Anthony Black, Goga Bitadze
DAL sends: Daniel Gafford, Jaden Hardy
Why DAL: AB is a perfect defensive big guard next to Kyrie and can do well enough at PG while awaiting his return. He injects length and defense into a team refocusing on that with Flagg incoming. Goga is young and inexpensive enough to be a solid backup to Lively. Hardy can be an explosive bench scorer, including 3pt range and ballhandling.

#3
ORL sends: Jett Howard, #46
BRK sends #36
Why BRK: Tons of cap space to take in a young yet-to-be unlocked sniper. BRK has four frps, so consolidates to move up significantly.
*ORL likes the idea of filling out the back end of the roster with possible cheap rotation role players, while very significantly, shaving $5.5m in salary to help in keeping Moe on a reduced deal and freeing up MLE.

ORL drafts: Thomas Sorber at #17, Drake Powell at #36, Ryan Nembhard at #57 ORL signs: Bobby Portis with full MLE

Gafford, Sorber, Portis (Moe)
Paolo, Portis, Isaac
Franz, TdS, Isaac
Suggs, Hardy, Powell
Bane, DDV, Nembhard
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Post#546 » by Bakomagic » Sat Jun 21, 2025 6:53 pm

RichCollab wrote:
Bakomagic wrote:I’d be happy with signing brogdon and bringing back Mo. that will give us plenty of scoring off the bench and Brogdon could play PG or SG when needed. He also be a great vet presence, like a rich man’s Cojo or poor man’s Bane.

Suggs/Brogdon
Bane/AB
Franz/TDS
P5/JI
WCjr/Mo/Goga


Will Brogdon play more than 20 games?


Yes
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Post#547 » by Skybox » Sat Jun 21, 2025 7:07 pm

I wonder how far we could trade up with AB + #25?

Probably not high enough to get Maluach or Jakucionis...I don't know that I'd do it for anybody after them.

Other thought...WCJ + AB + Jett + #25 to BRK for Claxton and #19?
Why: Claxton is a much better defender than WCJ...with the added firepower of Bane, we can forget the concept of WCJ as a floor spreader and focus on the simple job of a rim-protecting, switchy lob threat at C. Claxton is cost-controlled for 3 more seasons on a steeply descending deal. WCJ's deal increases substantially and AB will be talking extension NEXT summer, so -with the added bonus of getting off of Jett's deal immediately, it's not an irresponsible financial deal...just the opposite. Draft a strong prospect like Jase Richardson or Nique Clifford at 19. Renegotiate Moe regardless, but if we could unload Goga for a future pick and not take back salary, we should unlock the MLE and talk to Bobby Portis.

Claxton, Portis, (Moe)
Paolo, Isaac, Portis
Franz, Tds, Isaac
Suggs, Gary Harris (vet min), Sion James (#46)
Bane, Richardson, Nembhard (#57)
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Post#548 » by mattdelray1220 » Sat Jun 21, 2025 7:37 pm

Skybox wrote:I wonder how far we could trade up with AB + #25?

Probably not high enough to get Maluach or Jakucionis...I don't know that I'd do it for anybody after them.

Other thought...WCJ + AB + Jett + #25 to BRK for Claxton and #19?
Why: Claxton is a much better defender than WCJ...with the added firepower of Bane, we can forget the concept of WCJ as a floor spreader and focus on the simple job of a rim-protecting, switchy lob threat at C. Claxton is cost-controlled for 3 more seasons on a steeply descending deal. WCJ's deal increases substantially and AB will be talking extension NEXT summer, so -with the added bonus of getting off of Jett's deal immediately, it's not an irresponsible financial deal...just the opposite. Draft a strong prospect like Jase Richardson or Nique Clifford at 19. Renegotiate Moe regardless, but if we could unload Goga for a future pick and not take back salary, we should unlock the MLE and talk to Bobby Portis.

Claxton, Portis, (Moe)
Paolo, Isaac, Portis
Franz, Tds, Isaac
Suggs, Gary Harris (vet min), Sion James (#46)
Bane, Richardson, Nembhard (#57)


It is crazy how divisive AB is with our fanbase. I would bet if a team offered anywhere from 6 on up to the Magic this year for AB they would say NO. The Magic clearly like him and expect him to be 24+min off the bench this year. Year 3 is going to put this to rest with AB. Our fanbase is going to embrace him. I know it.
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Post#549 » by Skybox » Sat Jun 21, 2025 7:42 pm

mattdelray1220 wrote:
Skybox wrote:I wonder how far we could trade up with AB + #25?

Probably not high enough to get Maluach or Jakucionis...I don't know that I'd do it for anybody after them.

Other thought...WCJ + AB + Jett + #25 to BRK for Claxton and #19?
Why: Claxton is a much better defender than WCJ...with the added firepower of Bane, we can forget the concept of WCJ as a floor spreader and focus on the simple job of a rim-protecting, switchy lob threat at C. Claxton is cost-controlled for 3 more seasons on a steeply descending deal. WCJ's deal increases substantially and AB will be talking extension NEXT summer, so -with the added bonus of getting off of Jett's deal immediately, it's not an irresponsible financial deal...just the opposite. Draft a strong prospect like Jase Richardson or Nique Clifford at 19. Renegotiate Moe regardless, but if we could unload Goga for a future pick and not take back salary, we should unlock the MLE and talk to Bobby Portis.

Claxton, Portis, (Moe)
Paolo, Isaac, Portis
Franz, Tds, Isaac
Suggs, Gary Harris (vet min), Sion James (#46)
Bane, Richardson, Nembhard (#57)


It is crazy how divisive AB is with our fanbase. I would bet if a team offered anywhere from 6 on up to the Magic this year for AB they would say NO. The Magic clearly like him and expect him to be 24+min off the bench this year. Year 3 is going to put this to rest with AB. Our fanbase is going to embrace him. I know it.


You're speculating that ORL would not trade AB for #7 in this draft? :o eyriq - you've found your hype man!
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Post#550 » by SOUL » Sat Jun 21, 2025 7:46 pm

Skybox wrote:You're speculating that ORL would not trade AB for #7 in this draft? :o eyriq - you've found your hype man!


Depending on who's there they might but AB would probably be a top 7-12 level prospect in this class. You don't think teams would trade a first for him which I think is wild.
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Post#551 » by Skybox » Sat Jun 21, 2025 7:58 pm

SOUL wrote:
Skybox wrote:You're speculating that ORL would not trade AB for #7 in this draft? :o eyriq - you've found your hype man!


Depending on who's there they might but AB would probably be a top 7-12 level prospect in this class. You don't think teams would trade a first for him which I think is wild.


I didn't say he wasn't worth a frp...I value AB, I'm just trying to be realistic...

#7 is ludicrous:
-AB alone was drafted #6 and NOBODY sane could say he'd go there in a re-draft...doesn't make him anywhere near a "bust", just relativity
-AB will be up for an extension next summer and has only done just enough to tantalize some into a likely raise from his present $8m.
-A rookie pick would be under rookie deal for several years beyond AB's extension year
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Post#552 » by Skybox » Sat Jun 21, 2025 8:13 pm

Skybox wrote:
SOUL wrote:
Skybox wrote:You're speculating that ORL would not trade AB for #7 in this draft? :o eyriq - you've found your hype man!


Depending on who's there they might but AB would probably be a top 7-12 level prospect in this class. You don't think teams would trade a first for him which I think is wild.


I didn't say he wasn't worth a frp...I value AB, I'm just trying to be realistic...

#7 is ludicrous:
-AB alone was drafted #6 and NOBODY sane could say he'd go there in a re-draft...doesn't make him anywhere near a "bust", just relativity
-AB will be up for an extension next summer and has only done just enough to tantalize some into a likely raise from his present $8m.
-A rookie pick would be under rookie deal for several years beyond AB's extension year



If BRK offered us #8 for Black...I'm grabbing (1) Maluach or (2) Jakucionis and running out the door before they re-think
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Post#553 » by eyriq » Sat Jun 21, 2025 8:29 pm

Skybox wrote:
mattdelray1220 wrote:
Skybox wrote:I wonder how far we could trade up with AB + #25?

Probably not high enough to get Maluach or Jakucionis...I don't know that I'd do it for anybody after them.

Other thought...WCJ + AB + Jett + #25 to BRK for Claxton and #19?
Why: Claxton is a much better defender than WCJ...with the added firepower of Bane, we can forget the concept of WCJ as a floor spreader and focus on the simple job of a rim-protecting, switchy lob threat at C. Claxton is cost-controlled for 3 more seasons on a steeply descending deal. WCJ's deal increases substantially and AB will be talking extension NEXT summer, so -with the added bonus of getting off of Jett's deal immediately, it's not an irresponsible financial deal...just the opposite. Draft a strong prospect like Jase Richardson or Nique Clifford at 19. Renegotiate Moe regardless, but if we could unload Goga for a future pick and not take back salary, we should unlock the MLE and talk to Bobby Portis.

Claxton, Portis, (Moe)
Paolo, Isaac, Portis
Franz, Tds, Isaac
Suggs, Gary Harris (vet min), Sion James (#46)
Bane, Richardson, Nembhard (#57)


It is crazy how divisive AB is with our fanbase. I would bet if a team offered anywhere from 6 on up to the Magic this year for AB they would say NO. The Magic clearly like him and expect him to be 24+min off the bench this year. Year 3 is going to put this to rest with AB. Our fanbase is going to embrace him. I know it.


You're speculating that ORL would not trade AB for #7 in this draft? :o eyriq - you've found your hype man!


They took him 6th and he's hitting every development checkpoint. Selling low on a 21-year-old point guard who's growing into his role would be front office malpractice. But you keep cooking up these fantasy trades like it's 2K, brother.
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Post#554 » by Skybox » Sat Jun 21, 2025 9:02 pm

eyriq wrote:
Skybox wrote:
mattdelray1220 wrote:
It is crazy how divisive AB is with our fanbase. I would bet if a team offered anywhere from 6 on up to the Magic this year for AB they would say NO. The Magic clearly like him and expect him to be 24+min off the bench this year. Year 3 is going to put this to rest with AB. Our fanbase is going to embrace him. I know it.


You're speculating that ORL would not trade AB for #7 in this draft? :o eyriq - you've found your hype man!


They took him 6th and he's hitting every development checkpoint. Selling low on a 21-year-old point guard who's growing into his role would be front office malpractice. But you keep cooking up these fantasy trades like it's 2K, brother.


The only thing LOW is the bar you’ve set for your imaginary “development checkpoints” for a PG

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Post#556 » by p0peye » Sat Jun 21, 2025 9:16 pm

mattdelray1220 wrote:
Skybox wrote:I wonder how far we could trade up with AB + #25?

Probably not high enough to get Maluach or Jakucionis...I don't know that I'd do it for anybody after them.

Other thought...WCJ + AB + Jett + #25 to BRK for Claxton and #19?
Why: Claxton is a much better defender than WCJ...with the added firepower of Bane, we can forget the concept of WCJ as a floor spreader and focus on the simple job of a rim-protecting, switchy lob threat at C. Claxton is cost-controlled for 3 more seasons on a steeply descending deal. WCJ's deal increases substantially and AB will be talking extension NEXT summer, so -with the added bonus of getting off of Jett's deal immediately, it's not an irresponsible financial deal...just the opposite. Draft a strong prospect like Jase Richardson or Nique Clifford at 19. Renegotiate Moe regardless, but if we could unload Goga for a future pick and not take back salary, we should unlock the MLE and talk to Bobby Portis.

Claxton, Portis, (Moe)
Paolo, Isaac, Portis
Franz, Tds, Isaac
Suggs, Gary Harris (vet min), Sion James (#46)
Bane, Richardson, Nembhard (#57)


It is crazy how divisive AB is with our fanbase. I would bet if a team offered anywhere from 6 on up to the Magic this year for AB they would say NO. The Magic clearly like him and expect him to be 24+min off the bench this year. Year 3 is going to put this to rest with AB. Our fanbase is going to embrace him. I know it.


I don't think AB debate is anywhere close to the heat we had here around Elfrid Payton and probably is yet to meet Markelle Fultz level. A loyal clique of Elfrid Payton fans proudly coined the term “defenders” on this board—an honorary title that’s since been handed down, somewhat inconsistently, to Fultz. In AB case, eyriq may sadly be a lone ranger, so far.

The real tragedy? All three perfectly capture the Orlando Magic’s never-ending, and somehow always misguided, search for a point guard.
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Post#557 » by basketballRob » Sat Jun 21, 2025 9:40 pm

Every team has annoying posters who attack nearly every young player and try to run them out of town.


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Post#558 » by basketballRob » Sat Jun 21, 2025 9:41 pm

I have a funny feeling that we're going to sign Kennard to a 1 and 1 to take Gary's spot.

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Post#559 » by eyriq » Sat Jun 21, 2025 9:46 pm

basketballRob wrote:I have a funny feeling that we're going to sign Kennard to a 1 and 1 to take Gary's spot.

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Getting Kennard for our bench would be tremendous.
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Post#560 » by basketballRob » Sat Jun 21, 2025 9:58 pm

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basketballRob wrote:I have a funny feeling that we're going to sign Kennard to a 1 and 1 to take Gary's spot.

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Getting Kennard for our bench would be tremendous.
He got renounced the same day that Bane got traded.

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