2023-2024 Regular Season Game 27: Orlando Magic (16-10) at Milwaukee Bucks (20-7) - 8pm

thelead · Post #561 » by **thelead** » Fri Dec 22, 2023 3:57 am

eyriq wrote:Let's get Lavine. F*** it

If there were ever a time to get a ‘star’ on the cheap, now is the time. I’m dubious but if you can get him for cap relief and a future pick, you have to think about it.

IllMagic04 · Post #562 » by **IllMagic04** » Fri Dec 22, 2023 3:58 am

Id give WCjr one more start. If its still looking like this then you just have to go back to Goga.

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Post #563 » by **SOUL** » Fri Dec 22, 2023 3:59 am

Watch Fournier come back lol

KillMonger · Post #564 » by **KillMonger** » Fri Dec 22, 2023 4:00 am

Feel sorry for AB, he should not have been thrown into this situation....20 minutes, 0 points 1-2 from free throw....solid defense though....i feel if he was on the bench he would have a bit more freedom instead of being on rails like he is in the starting lineup....Jett should also be playing....and honestly i think after the deadline minutes will be freed up

Rainwater · Post #565 » by **Rainwater** » Fri Dec 22, 2023 4:01 am

ChosenSavior wrote:
eyriq wrote:
ChosenSavior wrote:
Who would you give it to?
Gary Harris

Would have been a toss up between Banchero and WCJ for me.

It would have be someone who absolutely did nothing in my opinion. Houston would be my choice, he played 18 mins (that is 4 more mins than JI) and had O points, 1 rebound, 1 Blk, 2 fouls to show for it.

RichCollab · Post #566 » by **RichCollab** » Fri Dec 22, 2023 4:02 am

We are playing with a little house money or were playing with house money on the wins.

This losing streak is a teachable moment.

Post #567 » by **eyriq** » Fri Dec 22, 2023 4:02 am

thelead wrote:
eyriq wrote:Let's get Lavine. F*** it

If there were ever a time to get a ‘star’ on the cheap, now is the time. I’m dubious but if you can get him for cap relief and a future pick, you have to think about it.

I guarantee you I could get hyped for it. It makes a lot of logical sense. The contract expires right as we pay Paolo. I'd be worried that Suggs wouldn't have the space he needs to develop into a 3rd option but I think Lavine can accelerate our development and Suggs or Black or Jett can step in once he expires.

Post #568 » by **SOUL** » Fri Dec 22, 2023 4:02 am

KillMonger wrote:Feel sorry for AB, he should not have been thrown into this situation....20 minutes, 0 points 1-2 from free throw....solid defense though....i feel if he was on the bench he would have a bit more freedom instead of being on rails like he is in the starting lineup....Jett should also be playing....and honestly i think after the deadline minutes will be freed up

It's fine for his future, being thrown into the fire while not having bad habits isn't the worst thing..

But if you want Jett and Black getting meaningful minutes together, that's a lot of learning experiences that won't translate a lot of the time.

Post #569 » by **eyriq** » Fri Dec 22, 2023 4:03 am

ChosenSavior wrote:
eyriq wrote:
ChosenSavior wrote:
Who would you give it to?
Gary Harris

Would have been a toss up between Banchero and WCJ for me.

Yeah that's fair. Those fouls on Lillard just left a really bad taste in my mouth. And he's my favorite whipping boy this year.

RichCollab · Post #570 » by **RichCollab** » Fri Dec 22, 2023 4:04 am

KillMonger wrote:Feel sorry for AB, he should not have been thrown into this situation....20 minutes, 0 points 1-2 from free throw....solid defense though....i feel if he was on the bench he would have a bit more freedom instead of being on rails like he is in the starting lineup....Jett should also be playing....and honestly i think after the deadline minutes will be freed up

Feel sorry for a rookie playing in the SL on a winning team getting paid millions of dollars?

I sure don’t feel sorry for him. lol

thelead · Post #571 » by **thelead** » Fri Dec 22, 2023 4:04 am

eyriq wrote:
thelead wrote:
eyriq wrote:Let's get Lavine. F*** it

If there were ever a time to get a ‘star’ on the cheap, now is the time. I’m dubious but if you can get him for cap relief and a future pick, you have to think about it.
I guarantee you I could get hyped for it. It makes a lot of logical sense. The contract expires right as we pay Paolo. I'd be worried that Suggs wouldn't have the space he needs to develop into a 3rd option but I think Lavine can accelerate our development and Suggs or Black or Jett can step in once he expires.

Fultz, Gary, Chuma, Jett, and a lotto protected pick. Money matches up perfectly.

Post #572 » by **ChosenSavior** » Fri Dec 22, 2023 4:05 am

Rainwater wrote:
ChosenSavior wrote:
eyriq wrote:Gary Harris

Would have been a toss up between Banchero and WCJ for me.

It would have be someone who absolutely did nothing in my opinion. Houston would be my choice, he played 18 mins (that is 4 more mins than JI) and had O points, 1 rebound, 1 Blk, 2 fouls to show for it.

Yeah he sucked but I don't expect much from Caleb. Paolo has to play much better than he did and thus should be judged as such.

As for WCJ, I've always been on the fence with him and his play in his return only further sets my claim that he isn't the starting C for the Orlando Magic long-term IMO.

MasterGMer · Post #573 » by **MasterGMer** » Fri Dec 22, 2023 4:05 am

Now everyone agrees Fultz is an upgrade over AB, huh?

Post #574 » by **eyriq** » Fri Dec 22, 2023 4:06 am

thelead wrote:
eyriq wrote:
thelead wrote:If there were ever a time to get a ‘star’ on the cheap, now is the time. I’m dubious but if you can get him for cap relief and a future pick, you have to think about it.
I guarantee you I could get hyped for it. It makes a lot of logical sense. The contract expires right as we pay Paolo. I'd be worried that Suggs wouldn't have the space he needs to develop into a 3rd option but I think Lavine can accelerate our development and Suggs or Black or Jett can step in once he expires.

Fultz, Gary, Chuma, Jett, and a lotto protected pick. Money matches up perfectly.

Weltman, pretty pretty please listen to this man.

RichCollab · Post #575 » by **RichCollab** » Fri Dec 22, 2023 4:06 am

Good news is I’m not going to miss Gary Harris if we move on during the trade deadline.

He use to be a solid vet who shot the 3 well. He has had funks like this before….

Post #576 » by **eyriq** » Fri Dec 22, 2023 4:07 am

They go away from player interviews too quickly for my liking

Post #577 » by **eyriq** » Fri Dec 22, 2023 4:07 am

MasterGMer wrote:Now everyone agrees Fultz is an upgrade over AB, huh?

Nope

MasterGMer · Post #578 » by **MasterGMer** » Fri Dec 22, 2023 4:08 am

I think the Front Office has to think why 3pt shooting couldn't be one of our strength?

I think lauri is intriguing. He is a terrific 3 point shooter which can help Franz and Paolo since he plays C. But if the price is too high. I'd think no

Rainwater · Post #579 » by **Rainwater** » Fri Dec 22, 2023 4:08 am

KillMonger wrote:Feel sorry for AB, he should not have been thrown into this situation....20 minutes, 0 points 1-2 from free throw....solid defense though....i feel if he was on the bench he would have a bit more freedom instead of being on rails like he is in the starting lineup....Jett should also be playing....and honestly i think after the deadline minutes will be freed up

I think the magic winning was the worst thing that could happen to both of them. I really don't think either are all that good at the moment. If the Magic were losing, they would be ok with growing pains of playing rookies but the magic are somewhat decent this year. The Magic honestly would be better off with more seasoned players to play with Paolo, Suggs, and Franz. I really do expect some chances by the trade deadline.

KillMonger · Post #580 » by **KillMonger** » Fri Dec 22, 2023 4:08 am

SOUL wrote:
KillMonger wrote:Feel sorry for AB, he should not have been thrown into this situation....20 minutes, 0 points 1-2 from free throw....solid defense though....i feel if he was on the bench he would have a bit more freedom instead of being on rails like he is in the starting lineup....Jett should also be playing....and honestly i think after the deadline minutes will be freed up

It's fine for his future, being thrown into the fire while not having bad habits isn't the worst thing..

But if you want Jett and Black getting meaningful minutes together, that's a lot of learning experiences that won't translate a lot of the time.

I am looking at certain players getting minutes and i'm thinking AB and Jett playing together can't be worse than what i'm seeing now....either way it's a tough situation, though my expectations has always been conservative....i think we're a play-in team.....i think there's room for the kids to carve out a role...i just want to know if it is really based off play on the court or politics....because you can't talk about earning minutes then look at Goga DNP's