2023-2024 Regular Season Game 31: New York Knicks (17-13) at Orlando Magic (18-12) - 7pm

[pepe1991]

Before game somebody said Franz should defere to Black & Suggs

A poster here stated that if you can't shoot 36% from 3, you aren't a good shooter. Franz 29%, Black 36%, and Suggs 37%.

I'm only using the logic I've heard here for years from a poster.


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[basketballRob]

Before game somebody said Franz should defere to Black & Suggs

A poster here stated that if you can't shoot 36% from 3, you aren't a good shooter. Franz 29%, Black 36%, and Suggs 37%.

I'm only using the logic I've heard here for years from a poster.


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whatever helps you sleep better while spitting nonsense 24-7

I'm using your logic against you.

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[basketballRob]

The team is growing up. Last season, if we won, they'd be dumping bottles of water on each other.

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[RookieStar]

Just gotta ask, where do you guys watch the relay for games? The entire game and not just highlights?

[RookieStar]

The team is growing up. Last season, if we won, they'd be dumping bottles of water on each other.

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I think they stil do if we won via a game winner.

[I Rasharted]

Franz feasting and beasting.

Caleb HOustan.

[Bergmaniac]

Great win. The starters were all fantastic. Very nice to see defensive dominance again, especially with Isaac out. We really made life difficult for Brunson and Barrett. Franz, Suggs, Goga and Black were all excellent defensively. Also great to see Franz hit a few 3s.

The bench struggled somewhat which was expected with all the missing players. Despite all the talk about Houstan's incredible looking shooting stroke the results aren't all that good, especially for a guy who is subpar in pretty much anything else.

[zaymon]

Killers In Action boys.
If Franz and Paolo shoot at at least league average we are every year in the playoffs... and they will.
Having Black and Suggs is such a luxury on defense but i doubt it will work in the long term.
Cole Anthony is unplayable on defense. Sad but true. Teams hunt him even with weaklings like Barrett.
When we make a move ?

[pepe1991]

A poster here stated that if you can't shoot 36% from 3, you aren't a good shooter. Franz 29%, Black 36%, and Suggs 37%.

I'm only using the logic I've heard here for years from a poster.


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whatever helps you sleep better while spitting nonsense 24-7

I'm using your logic against you.

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Sample size alert.

Whoever bothers to follow my posts, i always prefer career percentages and care a lot about sample.

Using 30 games sample or/and 50 shot attemps as blueprint is absurd.

Klay Thompson, one of best shooters in basketball history, started 2016-17 season shooting misserable 29% for 3 on 62 attemps over 10 games.
He finished season shooting 41,4% for 3.

According to your logic, he should have stopped shooting and defer to i don't know, Green or whoever was shooting 35% + on that irrelevant sample.


Now some fact bombs:

Franz Wagner still shoots 36% for 3 on wide open 3s, witch is better percentage than Black's (35%) and Suggs (32%).
Difference being, teams prepare gameplan to defend Franz ( and Paolo), where Suggs, but way more Black, is left wide open by design of defense as carculated risk. If we make playoffs, it will be interesting to see how two of them will play once teams start to close down on all the shots .


Problem within our offense is fact that Black shoots nothing but wide open 3s (40 out of 44 wide open attemps). And he should be shooting wide open shots. Issue is that he is always open by design of defense and yet he only attemped 40 shots in 30+ games, mostly because he isn't comfortable shooting (every night). It's also his personal problem, but he is rookie and it's fine. Nobody expected him to be lights out shooter anyway.
I see you find new object of desire after Bamba tho

Franz still is best Magic player by healthy margin and according to just about all serious advanced stats.

[basketballRob]

whatever helps you sleep better while spitting nonsense 24-7

I'm using your logic against you.

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Sample size alert.

Whoever bothers to follow my posts, i always prefer career percentages and care a lot about sample.

Using 30 games sample or/and 50 shot attemps as blueprint is absurd.

Klay Thompson, one of best shooters in basketball history, started 2016-17 season shooting misserable 29% for 3 on 62 attemps over 10 games.
He finished season shooting 41,4% for 3.

According to your logic, he should have stopped shooting and defer to i don't know, Green or whoever was shooting 35% + on that irrelevant sample.


Now some fact bombs:

Franz Wagner still shoots 36% for 3 on wide open 3s, witch is better percentage than Black's (35%) and Suggs (32%).

Problem within our offense is fact that Black shoots nothing but wide open 3s (40 out of 44 wide open attemps). And he should be shooting wide open shots. Issue is that he is always open by design of defense.

Franz still is best Magic player by healthy margin and according to just about all serious advanced stats.

Black 36.4% career 3-pt shooter. Franz 34.5%.

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[pepe1991]

I'm using your logic against you.

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Sample size alert.

Whoever bothers to follow my posts, i always prefer career percentages and care a lot about sample.

Using 30 games sample or/and 50 shot attemps as blueprint is absurd.

Klay Thompson, one of best shooters in basketball history, started 2016-17 season shooting misserable 29% for 3 on 62 attemps over 10 games.
He finished season shooting 41,4% for 3.

According to your logic, he should have stopped shooting and defer to i don't know, Green or whoever was shooting 35% + on that irrelevant sample.


Now some fact bombs:

Franz Wagner still shoots 36% for 3 on wide open 3s, witch is better percentage than Black's (35%) and Suggs (32%).

Problem within our offense is fact that Black shoots nothing but wide open 3s (40 out of 44 wide open attemps). And he should be shooting wide open shots. Issue is that he is always open by design of defense.

Franz still is best Magic player by healthy margin and according to just about all serious advanced stats.

Black 36.4% career 3-pt shooter. Franz 34.5%.

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Sample size? 780 vs 44 ? Good lord...

[Skybox]

Sample size alert.

Whoever bothers to follow my posts, i always prefer career percentages and care a lot about sample.

Using 30 games sample or/and 50 shot attemps as blueprint is absurd.

Klay Thompson, one of best shooters in basketball history, started 2016-17 season shooting misserable 29% for 3 on 62 attemps over 10 games.
He finished season shooting 41,4% for 3.

According to your logic, he should have stopped shooting and defer to i don't know, Green or whoever was shooting 35% + on that irrelevant sample.


Now some fact bombs:

Franz Wagner still shoots 36% for 3 on wide open 3s, witch is better percentage than Black's (35%) and Suggs (32%).

Problem within our offense is fact that Black shoots nothing but wide open 3s (40 out of 44 wide open attemps). And he should be shooting wide open shots. Issue is that he is always open by design of defense.

Franz still is best Magic player by healthy margin and according to just about all serious advanced stats.

Black 36.4% career 3-pt shooter. Franz 34.5%.

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Sample size? 780 vs 44 ? Good lord...

I hope Rob is just playing

You only have to watch a few mins to see the difference between a bona fide scoring threat pulling up (Franz) and a guy being dared to shoot (AB). AB has a lot in common with Lonzo, who became an excellent spot up floor spreader, so all’s well…but that’s not the same as a guy curling off a pick and pulling up in a defender’s mug.

[Skybox]

LEGIT PROVOCATIVE QUESTION…

how is Paolo better than Randle?

[tooler]

LEGIT PROVOCATIVE QUESTION…

how is Paolo better than Randle?

LEGIT ANSWER...

Paolo: one of the Kia Boys
Randle: not one of the Kia Boys

[Skybox]

LEGIT PROVOCATIVE QUESTION…

how is Paolo better than Randle?

LEGIT ANSWER...

Paolo: one of the Kia Boys
Randle: not one of the Kia Boys

Ugh ...I never liked Randle...why do I love Paolo?

[thelead]

LEGIT PROVOCATIVE QUESTION…

how is Paolo better than Randle?

Randle is 29. Paolo is 21.

It took Randle 5 seasons to get to Paolo’s rookie scoring output.

Paolo is also a better shooter (from deep).

Answer=Similar current production with room for growth while being 8 years younger.

[Rainwater]

LEGIT PROVOCATIVE QUESTION…

how is Paolo better than Randle?

Paolo is only in this second year and is doing things that Randle is doing know. And Paolo is is better all around player as well. Passer and dibbler. And don't believe this is the normal game for Randle.

[Def Swami]

Think it's interesting the Magic decided to sit Wendell Carter Jr. with a phantom "right knee tendinitis" against the Knicks, a team deprived of a center.

[Skybox]

LEGIT PROVOCATIVE QUESTION…

how is Paolo better than Randle?

Paolo is only in this second year and is doing things that Randle is doing know. And Paolo is is better all around player as well. Passer and dibbler. And don't believe this is the normal game for Randle.

*I'm certainly not rooting for Randle here...

Randle puts it on the floor and gets to the rim in traffic impressively and that's been his game. His career definitely started slower but he's had seasons where he averaged 24 ppg, 6.5 ASSISTS, and 10 rebs. In that same All-Star year, he shot 3's at 40+ %...that's what I really hope for from Paolo - and of course, an earlier rise to his peak. Randle gets a lot of crap...and I'm not sure why. Maybe it's just the nature of NY press. I grew up there and when I return to visit I read the Post and Daily News just for cringy laughs.

My hope is that Paolo gets up to 7 or more APG and really becomes more like Jokic than just a steamroller to the rim. He put up a lot of points lately, but he seems to be relying more on midrange fadeaway jumpers like Dirk. Great if you make them, but not really the most efficient shot to rely on. He's also stopped taking 3's and clearly prefers to bull his way to the rim - which he is elite at...but it does concern me that, if he becomes too predictable, he becomes easier (I didn't say "easy") to slow down or stop. He and Paolo are a tremendous foundation but watching Randle, you have to want to see Paolo develop "away" from that path.

[Skybox]

Think it's interesting the Magic decided to sit Wendell Carter Jr. with a phantom "right knee tendinitis" against the Knicks, a team deprived of a center.

didn't want to blow his audition