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RookieStar wrote:Also.. so everyone can understand...
Someonr with knowledge please postnour picks till 2030
Example :
25 - den #25, 2 srp
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Black and Blue wrote:FFBlitzace wrote:VFX wrote:
Bane and Suggs do not orchestrate or run offense. They are not point guards that can operate a pick and roll game.
This is putting more emphasis on Paolo and Franz to “run” on-ball offense neither of which player are considered great from outside and need to improve in that area.
It’s random in terms of taking a risk in assuming his translatable skill set and tendencies will match what we have seen of him in Memphis. The Grizzlies offense is not Orlando’s. They have a point guard that draws in defenses and averages 7.5-8 assists per game. Nobody in Orlando is that player.
I will love to hear what the excuses are IF Bane’s numbers do not match his past production with this in mind.
Ja Morant has only played a combined 59 games over the past two seasons. I really don't think it's fair to suggest Bane has been a product of Ja Morant. Bane is the guy who has had to step up and essentially lead that team amidst Ja's unreliability.
Precisely.
When Ja Morant was out during the 2024–25 Grizzlies season, Desmond Bane stepped up as a primary playmaker and ran the offense in a point guard-type role. Bane produced several impressive “point guard-like” stat lines in Morant’s absence:
On December 21, 2024, he posted a triple-double: 35 points, 10 rebounds, 10 assists in 36 minutes.
Other standout lineups included 22 points, 12 rebounds, 6 assists (Jan 30) and 24 points, 7 rebounds, 8 assists in mid-January—all while Morant was sidelined.
Bane consistently took on ball-handling and playmaking duties, facilitating the offense and keeping Memphis afloat until Morant’s return.
Bane effectively slid into a primary point guard role, doing more than just scoring—he organized the offense and created plays.
Since the Magic are all about position versatility, it’s at least more than in his wheelhouse if they want to go that route.
BadMofoPimp wrote:Durant thinks Vooch is one of the Best Centers in the NBA. I will take his word over a couch-GM yelling at a TV.
Even if Bane just stands in the corner, he is still pretty good. He averaged 43% in Catch and shoot 3s last year, more than anyone of our team.VFX wrote:Black and Blue wrote:FFBlitzace wrote:
Ja Morant has only played a combined 59 games over the past two seasons. I really don't think it's fair to suggest Bane has been a product of Ja Morant. Bane is the guy who has had to step up and essentially lead that team amidst Ja's unreliability.
Precisely.
When Ja Morant was out during the 2024–25 Grizzlies season, Desmond Bane stepped up as a primary playmaker and ran the offense in a point guard-type role. Bane produced several impressive “point guard-like” stat lines in Morant’s absence:
On December 21, 2024, he posted a triple-double: 35 points, 10 rebounds, 10 assists in 36 minutes.
Other standout lineups included 22 points, 12 rebounds, 6 assists (Jan 30) and 24 points, 7 rebounds, 8 assists in mid-January—all while Morant was sidelined.
Bane consistently took on ball-handling and playmaking duties, facilitating the offense and keeping Memphis afloat until Morant’s return.
Bane effectively slid into a primary point guard role, doing more than just scoring—he organized the offense and created plays.
Since the Magic are all about position versatility, it’s at least more than in his wheelhouse if they want to go that route.
We will see how well this translates.
I remember people popping champagne bottles a year ago when we acquired KCP because he was a “shooter” in Denver.
Yeah, Bane is significantly better than him. We will see how the “by committee” thing works when Paolo and Franz have the ball in their hands 100% of the time and Mosely can’t draw anything up. Hopefully he isn’t standing in a corner and he’s able to move the offense.
fendilim wrote:Even if Bane just stands in the corner, he is still pretty good. He averaged 43% in Catch and shoot 3s last year, more than anyone of our team.VFX wrote:Black and Blue wrote:
Precisely.
When Ja Morant was out during the 2024–25 Grizzlies season, Desmond Bane stepped up as a primary playmaker and ran the offense in a point guard-type role. Bane produced several impressive “point guard-like” stat lines in Morant’s absence:
On December 21, 2024, he posted a triple-double: 35 points, 10 rebounds, 10 assists in 36 minutes.
Other standout lineups included 22 points, 12 rebounds, 6 assists (Jan 30) and 24 points, 7 rebounds, 8 assists in mid-January—all while Morant was sidelined.
Bane consistently took on ball-handling and playmaking duties, facilitating the offense and keeping Memphis afloat until Morant’s return.
Bane effectively slid into a primary point guard role, doing more than just scoring—he organized the offense and created plays.
Since the Magic are all about position versatility, it’s at least more than in his wheelhouse if they want to go that route.
We will see how well this translates.
I remember people popping champagne bottles a year ago when we acquired KCP because he was a “shooter” in Denver.
Yeah, Bane is significantly better than him. We will see how the “by committee” thing works when Paolo and Franz have the ball in their hands 100% of the time and Mosely can’t draw anything up. Hopefully he isn’t standing in a corner and he’s able to move the offense.
VFX wrote:fendilim wrote:Even if Bane just stands in the corner, he is still pretty good. He averaged 43% in Catch and shoot 3s last year, more than anyone of our team.VFX wrote:
We will see how well this translates.
I remember people popping champagne bottles a year ago when we acquired KCP because he was a “shooter” in Denver.
Yeah, Bane is significantly better than him. We will see how the “by committee” thing works when Paolo and Franz have the ball in their hands 100% of the time and Mosely can’t draw anything up. Hopefully he isn’t standing in a corner and he’s able to move the offense.
Yeah shooting was never my argument. Suggs shot .400 two seasons ago and the offense wasn’t good.
For some reason people are incapable of separating two completely distinct ideas.
How the offense is run comes down to specific things. I know Bane can shoot a basketball.
Audi wrote:If this board had sniffed any semblance of Bane being available over the course of the 300+ page thread we had, he would’ve been our consensus #1 target and we would have been worked into a frenzy trying to figure out how to get him without losing Suggs.
honestly, i think moritz might be amenable to a cheaper contract. He will be out for like still half of the season next year, if im not mistaken.Knightro wrote:Where things stand right now financially...
The Magic have $200.9M in committed salary on 14 players. That puts them $5M over the first apron and $13M over the luxury tax.
They have the 25th pick in the 2025 draft incoming which will be a year 1 salary of $2.9M. They also have the 46th and 57th picks in Round 2, but they are not locked in to paying those players if they choose to not sign them.
The 25th pick will put the Magic $7.9M over the first apron and $15.9M over the luxury tax.
I very strongly believe the Magic will choose to decline their team options on Moritz ($11M), Gary ($7.5M) and CoJo ($3.4M) to lower their salary commitments to $181.9M for 12 players.
That would put them $6M under the luxury tax and $14M under the first apron. This would also allow them to use the non-taxpayer mid-level which is $14.1M in year 1 as opposed to the taxpayer mid-level which is $5.6M in year 1.
If the Magic choose to use their the non-taxpayer mid-level, it will trigger a hard cap for them at the first apron, which is $195.9M.
If the Magic do use the full MLE to sign a player, that would put them up against the hard cap with 13 players under contract. That would also mean no Moritz back either.
Just purely guessing here... if the Magic want to use their MLE and retain Moritz, they will have to find someone who will take Jonathan Isaac into a TPE or cap space for no return (Sacramento being the obvious choice here).
They could also potentially punt Jett Howard into someone's cap space, although that wouldn't really provide enough savings for Moritz, unless he was willing to take roughly 5.5M in year 1 which seems somewhat unlikely.
SlimShady83 wrote:Laker fan, "you guys still want Reaves, Reaves for WCJ?"
thelead wrote:SlimShady83 wrote:Laker fan, "you guys still want Reaves, Reaves for WCJ?"
Yes
dsg2021 wrote:Some things I am starting to catch from commentary and statheads is that no one could average more in all three of Desmond Bane's PPG, APG, and RPG categories last season than none other than Nikola Jokic and LeBron James ONLY. No one else.
fendilim wrote:..
The fact that Bane is tied up for 4- more years at a slightly lower Jalen Suggs-esque salary is a very good acquisition for us....
