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Braggins wrote:Rough start to the season, but I still believe in this squads talent.
SloNick Russia wrote:Its all part of Paolo experience, when he is bad it goes toxic on a team. He is just not a star player outside of scoring, maybe not even a good player.
Last season after the injury until he got going was the ugliest stretch of games I can remember.
In 2023-24 he started 38% FG as well, but got it right in November, hope he can do it again. Lack of assists is very conserning, on paper this is the most talented group of players he ever had next to him.
Sad part is Franz is a much better overall player now who just can't take over with Paolo been active
eyriq wrote:Man we wasted a good AB game. AB is already up to 29 MPG and Tyus is on ice.
His turnovers were painful, though.
BadMofoPimp wrote:Reached for a 2nd round talent in Nicholson.
basketballRob wrote:The shooting has to be related to their legs. The conditioning routine has to be suspect at this point. I don't think this coaching staff understands player's legs. This has been multiple years, and players who've shot career worst when they come to the Magic.
I'm a big Franz fan and honestly he has looked gassed in the 2nd halves in each of the 3 games. It appears Mosley didn't do a whole lot of conditioning in training camp. To play that up tempo style you really have to be fit.GelbeWand09 wrote:Haven't watched this game yet, but at least the 3 point thing isn't so surprising. I wrote a few times over the summer that I don't know why people thought we fixed that with the Bane trade. We were the by faaaaaaaar worst 3 point shooting team in the leaque and added 1 mid to high volume shooter. The rest of the starting 5 are still all mediocre to bad shooters including Suggs based on last year.
Was Franz gased again in 2nd half? As much as the fast pace fits his play style even at the euro when Germany played much faster style than usual and Franz being a one man fastbreak, he slowed down and became much less efficient in the 2nd halves.
The assist to turnover ratio so far is really comical bad. The to you at least can explain with new style and new players but the assists... Holy moly. Paolo 1 apg in those 3 games WTF
Tyus doesn't seem to fit with iso players like in Phoenix already. Black is great in the things he does well so far defense and attacking crambled defenses but has more to than assists and no 3point volume that it matters. But AB's +/- success probably shows that the team would look much better again with a defense 1st approach.
That's possible. The rest of the team looks extremely fatigued. I know they practiced the day before the 3 games in 4 nights. Also, Mosely likes to have weekends off, and it doesn't matter if it forces the team to practice on the day before a b2b.Bergmaniac wrote:basketballRob wrote:The shooting has to be related to their legs. The conditioning routine has to be suspect at this point. I don't think this coaching staff understands player's legs. This has been multiple years, and players who've shot career worst when they come to the Magic.
That's what I suspect too. Did Suggs, Franz and TDS, who have shot better so far, had different conditioning regimes than the rest due to Suggs recovering from injury and the Germans playing in Eurobasket until mid September?
I'm no expert but I think a lot of it has to do with playing iso heavy offense with Paolo and Franz (especially Paolo) which runs down the clock and then we get a 3 point shot out of rhythm. Then the misses get in their head's and it snowballs.zaymon wrote:KillMonger wrote:Not worried about it, he has every incentive to play better.... Literally had dollars riding on it...... no excuses..... Honestly I don't really care how he plays in the regular season as long as he is playing well towards the end peaking at the right time, I want this team to make the second round at leastDucklett wrote:
We ain't making any playoffs if his bum ass keeps playing like this.
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You like how our offense looked in the playoffs ? I think our offense looks bad regardless how many midrangers Paolo hits.
Same old questions appear regardless of number of shooters in the lineup.
Why do you think our shooters are out of rhythm and players hit well below their averages ? Is it a curse ? Is it just random ?
thelead wrote:
Bro, a ton of good points but we're 3 games in. You're going to have a coronary before Thanksgiving at this rate.thelead wrote:
I think it's more than mental. Players come to the Magic, and they suddenly can't shoot. Even Franz has gotten progressively worse each year.Optimus_Steel wrote:This team does have PTSD from missed shots. If they miss a string of shots they put their heads down and check out.
Bergmaniac wrote:Our defence was statistically very good in this game (102.8 DRTG), sure there were mistakes, but if you cherrypick examples, especially on b2b night, you can almost always find ones for a video of several minutes. Plus some of the comments in the video are just dumb, if Vucevic wants to take 15 foot fadeaway, statistically a bad shot, you don't pressure him close enough to allow him to spin off you and get closer to the basket, you let him do it. Nothing wrong with giving Patrick Williams some cushion in a semi transition out at the 3 point line. Some screaming idiot making clickbait videos is not a better defensive coach than Mosley.
