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MagicNolesFSU · Post #581 » by **MagicNolesFSU** » Thu Mar 20, 2008 2:17 am

Miami scored 54 points in the GAME...wow

taruky1 · Post #582 » by **taruky1** » Thu Mar 20, 2008 2:30 am

I missed the game tonight, so I can't comment on the exact circumstances of Hedo not passing to Dwight. Clearly he had some goofs in the 4th (missing free throws and possibly missing Dwight at the end). But I'm not sure it's fair to say that he didn't pass it because he was full of himself. Hedo's a good passer, but even better passers than him at times just don't see the open guy, especially at crunch time. Or maybe he didn't think there was enough time on the clock. Let's just call it a mitake in an otherwise good game but skip the theories on ulterior motives from BOTH sides ("full of himself" or "Dwight didn't deserve a pass" crap).

magictreat · Post #583 » by **magictreat** » Thu Mar 20, 2008 2:36 am

After a loss like this, I wonder how many guys here, are going to complaint, about the "LACK OF RESPECT", the media has against the Magic??? lol

TheRevTy · Post #584 » by **TheRevTy** » Thu Mar 20, 2008 2:52 am

I didn't catch the game except the 4th quarter, so I have to ask:

How in the blue world did Jameer Nelson manage 9 assists when we shot 34% from the field?

Optimus_Steel · Post #585 » by **Optimus_Steel** » Thu Mar 20, 2008 3:00 am

TheRevTy wrote:I didn't catch the game except the 4th quarter, so I have to ask:

How in the blue world did Jameer Nelson manage 9 assists when we shot 34% from the field?

I dont know, but i thought he played a terrible game, among others though. He had 2-3 TO's were he just fumbled the ball while dribbling for no reason. You cant have your starting PG fumbling the ball like that.

GilArenas88 · Post #586 » by **GilArenas88** » Thu Mar 20, 2008 3:17 am

How did Haywood flop, stop whinning and be a graceful loser. The one play were Haywood did fall over was when Howard got a little pissed at Haywood for talking smack, and Howard lowered his shoulder and rocketed up into Howards chest, how is that a flop?

Why can't you give Haywood credit for his actual excellent post defense. People still dont seem to relize that Haywood is probably the best 1 on 1 post defender in the league, and I swear Im not even being a homer, and his help defense is pretty damn good as well. If you want to argue about it he's at least top 5. The only way to negate Haywood defensively is to either get him switched up on a pick onto a smaller, faster player or just have and amazing shooting night verse him. And even if you have one of those great nights against him, which is rare, I guaruntee you it wasnt easy.

But what do I know Im just a homer...

magicmamma · Post #587 » by **magicmamma** » Thu Mar 20, 2008 3:19 am

I was pretty sure no team had beaten us this year by anything close to as low as 87 points, so I checked. The previous low was 94, in the first game of the season. That alone tells you the problem. Our shots weren't falling. It happens. The team wasn't playing badly. The Wiz were out for revenge, but they wouldn't have had a chance if either Rashard or Dwight had been producing offensively.

Poor Hedo, a career high and he's apologizing for missing some free throws and not being able to overcome three defenders and a ref in the last play. I thought he looked totally exhausted at the FT line at the end of the game and suspect that was why he was having trouble with them.

Dwight sounded really mad in his post game interview. How would you like to be Sam Dalembert on Friday?

Seralin · Post #588 » by **Seralin** » Thu Mar 20, 2008 3:20 am

taruky1 wrote:But I'm not sure it's fair to say that he didn't pass it because he was full of himself. Hedo's a good passer, but even better passers than him at times just don't see the open guy, especially at crunch time. Or maybe he didn't think there was enough time on the clock. Let's just call it a mitake in an otherwise good game but skip the theories on ulterior motives from BOTH sides ("full of himself" or "Dwight didn't deserve a pass" crap).

Based on his comments of the play, it looks as if, he was so concentrated on making the play (which may include avoiding getting fouled before taking the shot) that he missed the opportunity with Dwight. Stan says similar things, he expected him to move to open and shoot, instead of forcing it further. But anyways, what he did seems to be understandable (and definitely not intentional).

I was expecting an overtime bringing play but I guess, even if it would have reached that point, with that off shooting, the result would have hardly changed.

Seralin · Post #589 » by **Seralin** » Thu Mar 20, 2008 3:23 am

GilArenas88 wrote:How did Haywood flop, stop whinning and be a graceful loser. The one play were Haywood did fall over was when Howard got a little pissed at Haywood for talking smack, and Howard lowered his shoulder and rocketed up into Howards chest, how is that a flop?

So, talking smack to force that kind of situation is better?

Post #590 » by **FFBlitzace** » Thu Mar 20, 2008 3:25 am

I think Father Pat was officiating this game.

GilArenas88 · Post #591 » by **GilArenas88** » Thu Mar 20, 2008 3:38 am

So its Haywoods job to get into Howard's head, he's not supposed to be nice to Howard, he's the opponent. Im glad Wood didn't step down and jawwed a little, hey we got a call out of it, and a big foul on Howard, I'll take it...

theTHIEF · Post #592 » by **theTHIEF** » Thu Mar 20, 2008 3:42 am

GilArenas88 wrote:But what do I know Im just a homer...

sounds about right...and your basketball fundamentals knowledge is sub par if you are unable to discern a flop from getting knocked over...especially when he is known league wide as a flopper...i am sorry...

any who, decent game by your club...no team played very well, but your squad was better down the stretch...congrats...

Bay_Areas_Finest · Post #593 » by **Bay_Areas_Finest** » Thu Mar 20, 2008 4:02 am

LOL.

We shot about 32% and Washington can only win by 1 point?

They are so pathetic. This loss doesn't bother me at all.

MoGrAdY · Post #594 » by **MoGrAdY** » Thu Mar 20, 2008 4:14 am

Its actually kinda cool that we really should have won and only got 10 pts combined from Shard n Dwight. I think it shows how much better we are then the Wiz.

Gerhalt11 · Post #595 » by **Gerhalt11** » Thu Mar 20, 2008 4:16 am

GilArenas88 wrote:Haywood is probably the best 1 on 1 post defender in the league

Howard has arguably the worst offensive night of his career (and he's played Haywood plenty in his career) and suddenly Haywood is the best 1 on 1 post defender in the league? Wow. What world did I wake up in?

It's good to know that we have to play like absolute crap for our likely first round opponent to beat us. This is the first game all season where only one of our big three has heated up and the result is only a one-point loss? Well said, BAF. I won't lose any sleep over this one.

MagicNolesFSU · Post #596 » by **MagicNolesFSU** » Thu Mar 20, 2008 4:44 am

rofl wiz fans are out of control. Best 1o1 post defender? Give me some of the drugs you are taking. Our team outside of hedo shoots 20 percent and its a 1 point loss? Wiz aren't on our level

theTHIEF · Post #597 » by **theTHIEF** » Thu Mar 20, 2008 4:47 am

im all for standing behind your team and it's players, you have to as a fan...and i give credit where credit is due...but, c'mon...not even top 20 one on one defenders...

any ways...we have to bounce back hard off this game...

Shishnizzle · Post #598 » by **Shishnizzle** » Thu Mar 20, 2008 5:28 am

I understand this was a tough loss for many but I think we should show a little more respect for how hard Washington competed in this game. I think in the playoffs and when teams play us this tough that Dwight has to work harder at establishing low post position. I think he allowed himself to get pushed off the block to easy. He has to get that deep position to be effective. In the playoffs teams are going to work very hard to keep off the block. When he gets double teamed he needs to be patient and make good passes to really make them pay. He also needs to put a better grasp on the ball. I know they are slapping at it relentlessly but he has to hold onto the ball better. It won't be as easy for him in the playoffs and he can't allow bad offensive nights to take him out of the game. He had a bad night. No big deal, not really critising him, just making an observation about the intensity level in the playoffs. I thought Washington played with a high level of intensity in this game. Thier aggresivness had alot to do with why we did'nt play so well. Reshard did'nt shoot well but i think that was his worst game of the year, and I did'nt think Jameer had a great game either. Just to many careless turnovers, and missed free throws. You have to be able to hit pressure free throws or we will be in bad shape in the playoffs. I think the lesson learned is the Magic are going to have to be ready to play with the pressure when the playoffs roll around and I hope by the time they roll around we are ready. You can't win em all and we have had a great year so I'm not to upset about it.

Shishnizzle · Post #599 » by **Shishnizzle** » Thu Mar 20, 2008 5:44 am

Why did they remove my signature privledges. They sent me an message but I did'nt see it and they just removed it. I had a border on it and I guess it made it bigger and I did'nt realize it. Then I just resized it and it won't show up.

Ok I guess I'm an idiot, what's new.

GilArenas88 · Post #600 » by **GilArenas88** » Thu Mar 20, 2008 6:54 am

theThief you obviously don't know what your talking about by a long shot, your knowledge of basketball is the the one that is subpar my friend. Haywood known for being a flopper,huh? You obviously dont know what a flop is either. When a 6'11 265 pound pure mass of muscle, known as "superman" dips down and goes up full thrust into your chest its usually going to knock you down even if your 7 foot. Hey even if it was a flop Howard shouldnt be dipping his shoulders like that to get to the rim, Haywood if anything did the smart thing.

Second Bay_Areas_Finest and MoGrAdY show some class, make all the excuses you and and cry and whine all you want to "oh Dwight had the worst offensive night of his career" and "you beat us by one on an off night". Guess what it dont matter if you win by 1 or 100 a win is a win and we won fair and square. You don't hear us Wizards fans crying that we have missed Arenas and Etan Thomas all season, Caron has missed 20 or so but trying to diminish our win with little arrogant comments like you guys have done something like ever is petty.

Lastly I knew I'd get slammed for commenting on how good Haywoods defense is because yourgolden boy was on the wrong end of it. Hey don't believe me go to our board, and see how much Haywood is to our defense. You guys have me wrong when I'm saying Haywood is a top post defender in this league, you guys think just because he's on my team means that I'm being I homer. Hey I understand Haywoodis not a big name like Camby, Duncan, Rasheed, or even Garnett so of course if I say something about how good he is at something and Im the Anti-christ. Like I said it's my opinion Haywood is right at the top when it comes to 1 on 1 defense in the post, you could make and argument for some others, but he's up their whether you believe me or not is your choice, which I'm sure you'll just laugh and make comments that I'm a out of my mind, homer.

Piece of advise fellas, dont get your panties in such a bunch when someone says something you dont want to hear. Be open minded the world is full of different ideas, thoughts, and opinions.