Official 2024-2025 Magic Trade ideas thread continued

[cedric76]

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Would love Powell but his contract may be a problem.

Goga has value

[89Magicfan]

Not a fan of Sexton.

I like Garland but I don’t like Suggs for him. Garland has a history of not showing up when it matters.

[89Magicfan]

New big 3! Paolo, Giannis, Booker.

Magic get Booker and Giannis.

Bucks get Franz, Cole, 16th pick, 25th pick, 2027 unprotected first, 2026 pick swap, 2032 pick swap.

Suns get Suggs, Carter jr., TDS, their 2026 pick swap back, 2028 unprotected 1st, 2030 unprotected 1st., 2031 pick swap.

Suns rebuild around Durant and get much needed depth.

Bucks get a soon to be allstar in Franz who can keep them competitive until Dame comes back.

Magic get an unstoppable big 3. That still has years to grow together. They can get cheap ring chasing vets every year to fill out the roster. Roll out a lineup of Booker, Kcp, Black, Paolo, Giannis. That would be dangerous.

That would be nuts!

[eyriq]

It’s shaping up to be a great offseason for us to be buyers. With several teams heading into rebuilds or retools and the new CBA putting pressure on over-the-apron contenders, the trade market is ripe for consolidation moves. That’s exactly the kind of environment where we thrive, we’ve got depth, youth, cap flexibility, and a clear need for shooting and secondary creation. It’s a buyer’s market, and we’re in a strong position to capitalize. Contract year Weltman gonna hit different.

[tiderulz]

I like Sexton more than Garland, and it wouldn't cost Suggs.

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Garland is the MUCH better player. The funny thing is, we even have real life example of that. They played together. When Sexton got injured Cleveland won 47 games and would have won over 50 if Garland hadnt a injury. All lead by Garland. Sexton is a career losing player.
Sexton is good at driving but a bad playmaker & low volume 3point shooter. There is not one argument skill & impactwise for Sexton over Garland, especially for our team, that doesnt need another iso player who can sometimes pass when all his scoring options are not there.
You try out Sexton if the better options are gone and you can get him for cheap.

4+ attempts a game isnt low volume. And Sexton was traded to get Cleveland Mitchell, so yeah, Cleveland had more talent with Garland than Sexton. yes, Garland is a better player, but we cant handle Garland's contract either. I think Sexton has now settled into his role in the NBA. He didnt know what it was when he first came into the NBA.

[tiderulz]

I’m bias and emotional attached and not a GM. I’m not trading Suggs this offseason. Injuries are a big concern.

Suggs is a two-way player just godly on D. He can become a volume shooter if he stays healthy.

I’m giving him more time here.

Garland over Sexton for what we needs seems simple and I wanted Sexton at the trade deadline over Simons.

I would welcome Sexton for sure. Contract value is going to be pretty critical but if I’m comparing impact on the team offense it’s Garland.

is he though? only 1 good year on offense over 4 years in the league. no one can convincingly say he is a solid 2 way player. We hope his offense from year 3 continues, but he didnt start this past year as good as he did the year before.

[Knightro]

I'm not a Garland fan. I think he can be taken out of a game or series by a good defender. Poole is a better creator.

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I mean we’re just saying stuff now.

Come on.

[RichCollab]

I’m bias and emotional attached and not a GM. I’m not trading Suggs this offseason. Injuries are a big concern.

Suggs is a two-way player just godly on D. He can become a volume shooter if he stays healthy.

I’m giving him more time here.

Garland over Sexton for what we needs seems simple and I wanted Sexton at the trade deadline over Simons.

I would welcome Sexton for sure. Contract value is going to be pretty critical but if I’m comparing impact on the team offense it’s Garland.

is he though? only 1 good year on offense over 4 years in the league. no one can convincingly say he is a solid 2 way player. We hope his offense from year 3 continues, but he didnt start this past year as good as he did the year before.

Paolo and Franz went down and he stepped up. Also, there was no offense when Suggs went out during that period.

[tiderulz]

I’m bias and emotional attached and not a GM. I’m not trading Suggs this offseason. Injuries are a big concern.

Suggs is a two-way player just godly on D. He can become a volume shooter if he stays healthy.

I’m giving him more time here.

Garland over Sexton for what we needs seems simple and I wanted Sexton at the trade deadline over Simons.

I would welcome Sexton for sure. Contract value is going to be pretty critical but if I’m comparing impact on the team offense it’s Garland.

is he though? only 1 good year on offense over 4 years in the league. no one can convincingly say he is a solid 2 way player. We hope his offense from year 3 continues, but he didnt start this past year as good as he did the year before.

Paolo and Franz went down and he stepped up. Also, there was no offense when Suggs went out during that period.

im optimistic, but not sold yet on Suggs being a true 2-way player

[RichCollab]

It’s shaping up to be a great offseason for us to be buyers. With several teams heading into rebuilds or retools and the new CBA putting pressure on over-the-apron contenders, the trade market is ripe for consolidation moves. That’s exactly the kind of environment where we thrive, we’ve got depth, youth, cap flexibility, and a clear need for shooting and secondary creation. It’s a buyer’s market, and we’re in a strong position to capitalize. Contract year Weltman gonna hit different.

Hopefully we play our cards well.

[89Magicfan]

It’s shaping up to be a great offseason for us to be buyers. With several teams heading into rebuilds or retools and the new CBA putting pressure on over-the-apron contenders, the trade market is ripe for consolidation moves. That’s exactly the kind of environment where we thrive, we’ve got depth, youth, cap flexibility, and a clear need for shooting and secondary creation. It’s a buyer’s market, and we’re in a strong position to capitalize. Contract year Weltman gonna hit different.

Hopefully we play our cards well.

Nap time is over.

[Skybox]

I would do Suggs and picks for Garland in a second.

And I love Suggs.

I and-1 it but I certainly have my reservations...

-Mitchell/Suggs beats the snot out of Garland/KCP and that's a main competitor for the East for the next few years
...I've often thought how IF we ever traded Suggs - I'd prefer he was FAR away out West, where we don't have to face him 4x + playoffs
-I just don't know how long we can count on KCP (he's fine for a while) but Suggs could be here for the long haul - on a much better deal than Garland
-Garland is just awesomely skilled but I've only really paid attention in the playoffs - where he routinely gets bullied
-I would think we could get Reaves for less and pay him considerably less and he might be a better fit...next to Suggs

presuming Derrick White isn't gettable...I'm calling LAL and pushing hard but keeping Suggs.

Simons is my strong #2...I just think he's got a lot more to unlock and he's already shown a lot more consistent shooting/scoring than Coby or Sexton

I'd be excited about any of them, but those preferences are becoming clearer to me...there are very few I'd trade Suggs for.

[Skybox]

I'm not a Garland fan. I think he can be taken out of a game or series by a good defender. Poole is a better creator.

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I mean we’re just saying stuff now.

Come on.

silly...Poole is intriguing but definitely a fallback plan if better options don't pan out. Garland has concerns but he's miles ahead of Poole, imo.

[VFX]

If you are considering:

Simons, Reaves, Poole, or Sexton without the need to trade Jalen Suggs over acquiring Darius Garland with trading Suggs, then you aren’t serious.

The chasm in talent isn’t that steep.

The bigger question is how to balance the cap space after you acquire those players. That comes down to moving KCP, Cole, and Isaac. Those guys are **** for the money they make.

[Knightro]

If you are considering:

Simons, Reaves, Poole, or Sexton without the need to trade Jalen Suggs over acquiring Darius Garland with trading Suggs, then you aren’t serious.

The chasm in talent isn’t that steep.

The bigger question is how to balance the cap space after you acquire those players. That comes down to moving KCP, Cole, and Isaac. Those guys are **** for the money they make.

I disagree.

Garland is a much better player than Simons, Poole or Sexton (or Suggs factoring everything). Garland is a legitimate 2x all-star and on the cusp of being an all-star every year.

I would put Reaves closer to Garland than those other three.

The Ringer's NBA Rank gimmick has them...

32. Garland
44. Reaves
62. Suggs
85. Simons
96. Poole
Outside the top 100 Sexton.

[Knightro]

If I could get Reaves without giving up Suggs, I'd do that for sure. That would be my first preference.

But getting Garland, even at the expense of Suggs, would be a strong second preference.

Simons and Poole and Sexton are secondary to those two options.

[Knightro]

EPM rankings for the 24-25 season

20. Garland
25. D. White
41. Reaves
77. Suggs (48th two years ago)
146. Poole
163. Sexton
192. C. White
193. Simons

[89Magicfan]

If you are considering:

Simons, Reaves, Poole, or Sexton without the need to trade Jalen Suggs over acquiring Darius Garland with trading Suggs, then you aren’t serious.

The chasm in talent isn’t that steep.

The bigger question is how to balance the cap space after you acquire those players. That comes down to moving KCP, Cole, and Isaac. Those guys are **** for the money they make.

I disagree.

Garland is a much better player than Simons, Poole or Sexton (or Suggs factoring everything). Garland is a legitimate 2x all-star and on the cusp of being an all-star every year.

I would put Reaves closer to Garland than those other three.

The Ringer's NBA Rank gimmick has them...

32. Garland
44. Reaves
62. Suggs
85. Simons
96. Poole
Outside the top 100 Sexton.

I don’t know a ton about Reaves. Just watching him though, he’s a player. Smart player. I wonder how much better can he get? If he has more to tap into, he might be the best candidate to pursue and if we can keep Suggs, even better. Only other issue is how much he’s going to ask for but I’d worry about that later.

[basketballRob]

I'm not a Garland fan. I think he can be taken out of a game or series by a good defender. Poole is a better creator.

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I mean we’re just saying stuff now.

Come on.

I like Poole more when the defense is pressuring.

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[basketballRob]

EPM rankings for the 24-25 season

20. Garland
25. D. White
41. Reaves
77. Suggs (48th two years ago)
146. Poole
163. Sexton
192. C. White
193. Simons

I think being on a good team can help your EPM.

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