Official 2024-2025 Magic Trade ideas thread continued

[tiderulz]

Also, I think people gloss over the fact that Nembhard is a PG playing out of position because Halliburton is such an exceptional PG.

ehh, Nembhard has always been a combo guard for them.

[tiderulz]

The Simons and sexton talks are about upgrading on Cole.

I want to keep suggs + KCP in starting lineup up for now, with Simons/sexton+ AB coming off the bench.

Lethal guard rotation

I have been thinking about this.
Sexton will cost Anthony and picks vs. Garland will cost Suggs and picks. So, what's bettter?

Well Garland does have better stats: Collin Sexton (2025-2025) vs. Darius Garland (2025-2025): Head-to-Head Stats

But Garland is essentially unafordable whereas Sexton is affordable next season - and then might walk or command a massive salary.

In the end, it's the trade cost that I can't leave behind. I vote Sexton over Garland as the cost is so tiny. I think trading for Garland could actaually blow-up the "culture" of this roster.

if Sexton requires "picks" and not just 1 pick, then move on. I like Sexton for us, but not at multiple picks

[Skybox]

The Simons and sexton talks are about upgrading on Cole.

I want to keep suggs + KCP in starting lineup up for now, with Simons/sexton+ AB coming off the bench.

Lethal guard rotation

I have been thinking about this.
Sexton will cost Anthony and picks vs. Garland will cost Suggs and picks. So, what's bettter?

Well Garland does have better stats: Collin Sexton (2025-2025) vs. Darius Garland (2025-2025): Head-to-Head Stats

But Garland is essentially unafordable whereas Sexton is affordable next season - and then might walk or command a massive salary.

In the end, it's the trade cost that I can't leave behind. I vote Sexton over Garland as the cost is so tiny. I think trading for Garland could actaually blow-up the "culture" of this roster.

if Sexton requires "picks" and not just 1 pick, then move on. I like Sexton for us, but not at multiple picks

I don’t get why people are presuming to know what Sexton’s (or anybody’s) price will be. Ainge is not a moron- he’s known to be a challenge to deal with…it’s not a given that #25 and Cole gets him or that he will agree to a modest extension. I’d guess that Simons is just as available and kind of already in the way of his replacement.

I love Suggs and his contract is superior, but I think we’re being a bit homer delusional to think that a straight up trade for Garland is realistic. I guarantee that the national view of that would be unfavorable. A different question is fit and cap hit, but Garland is far more accomplished.

[MartinsIzAfraud]

Locked On Hosts do NBA Mock drafts and they finished it up yesterday. PRR went into it looking at 3 specific players and those who he thinks the Magic will be after.. Anfernee Simons, Colin Sexton, Austin Reaves. Locked on lakers had wild valuation for Reaves. Put in a bid for Malik Monk but the locked on Kings wanted KCP, AB, 16 for Monk and Terrence Davis.

PRR was between 2 deals Simons and Sexton. Didn't have to give up AB or Isaac (not shocked on Isaac). Trade ultimately narrowed down to KCP, 16, Gary for Anfernee Simons & 2 2nds. 16th pick is the cost to get off KCP money and Simons. PRR mocked Simons at 3/90M extension and said there's no way he's not a 30M player likely the usual Jeff declining number.

Sexton deal was just Cole + 16 for Sexton. Just liked Simons the most in terms of higher upside, scoring abilities and playmaking abilities while not having to have the ball in his hands. Sexton likely is in the 25M range but might creep up big time.

Magic will very likely be over the 1st apron but will likely try to cut payroll by the deadline which is when they have to be under. 20 Point scorers are going for 30M and that's what you have to pay in today's NBA.

[eyriq]

Locked On Hosts do NBA Mock drafts and they finished it up yesterday. PRR went into it looking at 3 specific players and those who he thinks the Magic will be after.. Anfernee Simons, Colin Sexton, Austin Reaves. Locked on lakers had wild valuation for Reaves. Put in a bid for Malik Monk but the locked on Kings wanted KCP, AB, 16 for Monk and Terrence Davis.

PRR was between 2 deals Simons and Sexton. Didn't have to give up AB or Isaac (not shocked on Isaac). Trade ultimately narrowed down to KCP, 16, Gary for Anfernee Simons & 2 2nds. 16th pick is the cost to get off KCP money and Simons. PRR mocked Simons at 3/90M extension and said there's no way he's not a 30M player likely the usual Jeff declining number.

Sexton deal was just Cole + 16 for Sexton. Just liked Simons the most in terms of higher upside, scoring abilities and playmaking abilities while not having to have the ball in his hands. Sexton likely is in the 25M range but might creep up big time.

Magic will very likely be over the 1st apron but will likely try to cut payroll by the deadline which is when they have to be under. 20 Point scorers are going for 30M and that's what you have to pay in today's NBA.

PRR roleplayed that extremely well. B+

[MartinsIzAfraud]

Locked On Hosts do NBA Mock drafts and they finished it up yesterday. PRR went into it looking at 3 specific players and those who he thinks the Magic will be after.. Anfernee Simons, Colin Sexton, Austin Reaves. Locked on lakers had wild valuation for Reaves. Put in a bid for Malik Monk but the locked on Kings wanted KCP, AB, 16 for Monk and Terrence Davis.

PRR was between 2 deals Simons and Sexton. Didn't have to give up AB or Isaac (not shocked on Isaac). Trade ultimately narrowed down to KCP, 16, Gary for Anfernee Simons & 2 2nds. 16th pick is the cost to get off KCP money and Simons. PRR mocked Simons at 3/90M extension and said there's no way he's not a 30M player likely the usual Jeff declining number.

Sexton deal was just Cole + 16 for Sexton. Just liked Simons the most in terms of higher upside, scoring abilities and playmaking abilities while not having to have the ball in his hands. Sexton likely is in the 25M range but might creep up big time.

Magic will very likely be over the 1st apron but will likely try to cut payroll by the deadline which is when they have to be under. 20 Point scorers are going for 30M and that's what you have to pay in today's NBA.

PRR roleplayed that extremely well. B+

yeah its a smaller step that can make a big improvement and then the following year you make you all in trade. Just ready for draft week to be here already because that's when things will heat up

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Yeah, PRR did what most of us would do in that situation. Get off KCP money and acquire Simons for the #16. Pretty self explanatory.

His gripe was attempting to figure out how to get under the first apron, which is a real concern.

Harder to do when you have to pay Isaac $15m to play 10mpg off the bench or Cole $13m to provide nothing. Moving those guys helps, but there likely has to be movement around the role players first before you pull the trigger on a Simons deal.

[MartinsIzAfraud]

Yeah, PRR did what most of us would do in that situation. Get off KCP money and acquire Simons for the #16. Pretty self explanatory.

His gripe was attempting to figure out how to get under the first apron, which is a real concern.

Harder to do when you have to pay Isaac $15m to play 10mpg off the bench or Cole $13m to provide nothing. Moving those guys helps, but there likely has to be movement around the role players first before you pull the trigger on a Simons deal.

I'd imagine there would be other smaller trades that follow if you get Simons. I think Isaac has 1 more year and then he gets shipped with this Phoenix trade swap pick. There's no way you don't move Cole as well could possibly package him with Goga?

[VFX]

Yeah, PRR did what most of us would do in that situation. Get off KCP money and acquire Simons for the #16. Pretty self explanatory.

His gripe was attempting to figure out how to get under the first apron, which is a real concern.

Harder to do when you have to pay Isaac $15m to play 10mpg off the bench or Cole $13m to provide nothing. Moving those guys helps, but there likely has to be movement around the role players first before you pull the trigger on a Simons deal.

I'd imagine there would be other smaller trades that follow if you get Simons. I think Isaac has 1 more year and then he gets shipped with this Phoenix trade swap pick. There's no way you don't move Cole as well could possibly package him with Goga?

As much as I like Goga I think he’s gone.

If I put my GM hat on Cole, Isaac, and KCP are getting moved for sure to get under the first apron and buy me time to find replacements. He actually has to use the draft picks for those rookie scale guys. I know he’d love to hand some nobody $10m to do nothing off the bench, but he can’t anymore.

[89Magicfan]

Locked On Hosts do NBA Mock drafts and they finished it up yesterday. PRR went into it looking at 3 specific players and those who he thinks the Magic will be after.. Anfernee Simons, Colin Sexton, Austin Reaves. Locked on lakers had wild valuation for Reaves. Put in a bid for Malik Monk but the locked on Kings wanted KCP, AB, 16 for Monk and Terrence Davis.

PRR was between 2 deals Simons and Sexton. Didn't have to give up AB or Isaac (not shocked on Isaac). Trade ultimately narrowed down to KCP, 16, Gary for Anfernee Simons & 2 2nds. 16th pick is the cost to get off KCP money and Simons. PRR mocked Simons at 3/90M extension and said there's no way he's not a 30M player likely the usual Jeff declining number.

Sexton deal was just Cole + 16 for Sexton. Just liked Simons the most in terms of higher upside, scoring abilities and playmaking abilities while not having to have the ball in his hands. Sexton likely is in the 25M range but might creep up big time.

Magic will very likely be over the 1st apron but will likely try to cut payroll by the deadline which is when they have to be under. 20 Point scorers are going for 30M and that's what you have to pay in today's NBA.

What do you mean wild? Overpay? I am really intrigued in what Reaves and Suggs would possibly look like.

[Knightro]

Cole + 16 for Sexton is not good IMO.

[orlando_joe]

Locked On Hosts do NBA Mock drafts and they finished it up yesterday. PRR went into it looking at 3 specific players and those who he thinks the Magic will be after.. Anfernee Simons, Colin Sexton, Austin Reaves. Locked on lakers had wild valuation for Reaves. Put in a bid for Malik Monk but the locked on Kings wanted KCP, AB, 16 for Monk and Terrence Davis.

PRR was between 2 deals Simons and Sexton. Didn't have to give up AB or Isaac (not shocked on Isaac). Trade ultimately narrowed down to KCP, 16, Gary for Anfernee Simons & 2 2nds. 16th pick is the cost to get off KCP money and Simons. PRR mocked Simons at 3/90M extension and said there's no way he's not a 30M player likely the usual Jeff declining number.

Sexton deal was just Cole + 16 for Sexton. Just liked Simons the most in terms of higher upside, scoring abilities and playmaking abilities while not having to have the ball in his hands. Sexton likely is in the 25M range but might creep up big time.

Magic will very likely be over the 1st apron but will likely try to cut payroll by the deadline which is when they have to be under. 20 Point scorers are going for 30M and that's what you have to pay in today's NBA.

PRR roleplayed that extremely well. B+

i do not see sexton for sure and even simons getting 20 pts a game for whole season on magic they will not get shots every night and if they want 30 have to pass just get jones for 2/3 yrs or paul for yr..wish those guys luck in fa in new nba ...money reality will slap them in face...4 yr rookie contracts for picks in 16 range have value now more then ever

[cedric76]

Locked On Hosts do NBA Mock drafts and they finished it up yesterday. PRR went into it looking at 3 specific players and those who he thinks the Magic will be after.. Anfernee Simons, Colin Sexton, Austin Reaves. Locked on lakers had wild valuation for Reaves. Put in a bid for Malik Monk but the locked on Kings wanted KCP, AB, 16 for Monk and Terrence Davis.

PRR was between 2 deals Simons and Sexton. Didn't have to give up AB or Isaac (not shocked on Isaac). Trade ultimately narrowed down to KCP, 16, Gary for Anfernee Simons & 2 2nds. 16th pick is the cost to get off KCP money and Simons. PRR mocked Simons at 3/90M extension and said there's no way he's not a 30M player likely the usual Jeff declining number.

Sexton deal was just Cole + 16 for Sexton. Just liked Simons the most in terms of higher upside, scoring abilities and playmaking abilities while not having to have the ball in his hands. Sexton likely is in the 25M range but might creep up big time.

Magic will very likely be over the 1st apron but will likely try to cut payroll by the deadline which is when they have to be under. 20 Point scorers are going for 30M and that's what you have to pay in today's NBA.

PRR roleplayed that extremely well. B+

PRR sucked as usual

This guy will never change

Who will offer 30M to Simons?
Who will offer 25M to sexton?

He doesn't understand the new CBA

[GGforever]

This is my list of players, realistic or not, for us to target in a trade. While keeping the core of Paolo, Franz, Jalen, and Moe.
Booker, Bane, Herro, Trey Murphy, Derrick White, Trae, Lamelo, Garland, KAT, Walker Kessler, Simons, Reaves, Coby White, Vassell

[cedric76]

Cole + 16 for Sexton is not good IMO.

Cole + 25 is the best offer

[Magicman125]

Cole + 16 for Sexton is not good IMO.

Cole + 25 is the best offer

We'll probably throw in a second we'll never use with protections where it may or may not convey.

[89Magicfan]

Sexton just seems like a lateral move to me.

[basketballRob]

Poole has identical per 36 stats as Maxey.

https://stathead.com/basketball/versus-finder.cgi?request=1&seasons_type=perchoice&player_id1=poolejo01&p1yrfrom=2025&p1yrto=2025&player_id2=maxeyty01&p2yrfrom=2025&p2yrto=2025

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[daoneandonly]

Mavs fan here

WOuld you be interested in a deal centered around AD for Suggs? Something like AD/Hardy for Suggs/KCP/Howard/Picks?

[cedric76]

Cole + 16 for Sexton is not good IMO.

Cole + 25 is the best offer

We'll probably throw in a second we'll never use with protections where it may or may not convey.

Yeah SRP maybe but sexton won't land a pick higher than 25