Official Speculation Thread (Pt.XL Off-Season Edition)

RickB-Orlando · Post #61 » by **RickB-Orlando** » Tue Jul 17, 2012 10:02 pm

TheMagicOne wrote:"There are people that do it a certain, established way, and it has become tradition. Not a big deal. If you want to do a spec thread cause you think it would be cool to be part of that tradition, feel free, but keep in mind that it will need to be formatted according to certain established parameters. If you throw up what can only be described as a very poor thread it will not be received well, and honestly I can't imagine why you'd want to do so in the first place. "

That is from mod eyriq for all you who look up to these mods thinking that they are the end all be all. See on RealGM there is a way to conform or don't post at all.

So eryiq DO NOT PM me again and try to school me on how to properly post a pretty thread.

This post reminds me of a bit that Norm MacDonald used to doin his stand-up routine, it goes something like this (It's a little dated, but the key message still applies):

"So somebody shot the Pope. The POPE! I mean, if you're going to assassinate someone, why pick the Pope of all people? I can only imagine what his explanation must have been: I want to go to Hell, and I don't want to have to wait in line."

InFlames · Post #62 » by **InFlames** » Tue Jul 17, 2012 10:03 pm

Zmill wrote:
InFlames wrote:http://blogs.thescore.com/tbj/2012/05/10/why-andrew-bynum-is-the-worst/ Natural leader right here.

@ reading a playboy equating to a bad attitude

@ parking in Handicapped spots equating to a bad attitude

@ criticizing one of the worst coaches in the league equating to a bad attitude

@ at a cheap shot (like everyone in the league hasnt thrown a few) equating to a bad attitude

He is 24 years old and came into the league at 17...obviously he has some growing up to do. Dwight Howard was thought to be a "good attitude" guy and Shaq was thought to be a "bad attitude" guy, look how that turned out.

Is that you Andrew Bynum?

mhectorgato · Post #63 » by **mhectorgato** » Tue Jul 17, 2012 10:03 pm

AshBlackstone wrote:We're not getting Bynum, so I don't know why this is even being discussed.

The reason it's being discussed is because of the Tweets/Wiretap articles about them talking about to us about D12.

Who else would they send over? As far as I know, they don't have picks, young talent, etc..

rcklsscognition · Post #64 » by **rcklsscognition** » Tue Jul 17, 2012 10:06 pm

InFlames wrote:http://blogs.thescore.com/tbj/2012/05/10/why-andrew-bynum-is-the-worst/ Natural leader right here.

Honestly, the only dude in the league I can think of with worse body language than Andrew is Daniel Orton of the Magic, but that just may be his face, I dunno.

RickB-Orlando · Post #65 » by **RickB-Orlando** » Tue Jul 17, 2012 10:06 pm

InFlames wrote:Rob definitely doesn't want Bynum. He's been saying all along that he wants high character guys. Bynum is a mental midget with an awful attitude.

The problem is there are very few brain surgeons that are working as NBA superstars in their spare time.

Sometimes you have to take the good with the bad. If Bynum told him he was looking forward to coming to Orlando and doing everything possible to help the team win a championship, my guess is Henny would take him.

rcklsscognition · Post #66 » by **rcklsscognition** » Tue Jul 17, 2012 10:07 pm

Why do we not want a guy who doesn't join huddles because he is “getting my Zen on.”? You people can't be satisfied.

InFlames · Post #67 » by **InFlames** » Tue Jul 17, 2012 10:08 pm

rcklsscognition wrote:
InFlames wrote:http://blogs.thescore.com/tbj/2012/05/10/why-andrew-bynum-is-the-worst/ Natural leader right here.

Honestly, the only dude in the league I can think of with worse body language than Andrew is Daniel Orton of the Magic, but that just may be his face, I dunno.

He's probably right about that.

OrlChamps2030 · Post #68 » by **OrlChamps2030** » Tue Jul 17, 2012 10:08 pm

InFlames wrote:
Zmill wrote:
InFlames wrote:http://blogs.thescore.com/tbj/2012/05/10/why-andrew-bynum-is-the-worst/ Natural leader right here.

@ reading a playboy equating to a bad attitude

@ parking in Handicapped spots equating to a bad attitude

@ criticizing one of the worst coaches in the league equating to a bad attitude

@ at a cheap shot (like everyone in the league hasnt thrown a few) equating to a bad attitude

He is 24 years old and came into the league at 17...obviously he has some growing up to do. Dwight Howard was thought to be a "good attitude" guy and Shaq was thought to be a "bad attitude" guy, look how that turned out.

Is that you Andrew Bynum?

No that article is just funny.. in a league where stars get DUIs, have tons of illegitimate children, gun charges, etc reading a playboy and parking in handicapped spots screams bad attitude? :lol:

Phil Jackson once raved about Bynum's intelligence and his enthusiasm to understand how things work.. Maturity is something you grow into. Intelligence is something you have or do not. (See: Dwight Howard)

Is that you JJ Barrea?

RickB-Orlando · Post #69 » by **RickB-Orlando** » Tue Jul 17, 2012 10:09 pm

InFlames wrote:
Zmill wrote:
InFlames wrote:Rob definitely doesn't want Bynum. He's been saying all along that he wants high character guys. Bynum is a mental midget with an awful attitude.

I'm not sure if I'd have a great attitude myself if I was the most gifted offensive center in the league, yet I was only getting 12 shots per game. Definitely reaching there buddy.

That must be why he shoved Barea in mid air potentially ending his career. He just didn't get enough shots.

Yeah, but that's not about getting shots. It's something that happened in the heat of the moment. Not his best moment without a doubt, but everybody makes mistakes. I mean, look at Dwight, the paragon of virtue, leaving illegitimate kids in his wake and trashing his franchise. Bynum would be worse...?

Michael Lucky · Post #70 » by **Michael Lucky** » Tue Jul 17, 2012 10:10 pm

Mark Spears was on 710 Espn reporting that Dwight seems to be warming up to playing in LA.

InFlames · Post #71 » by **InFlames** » Tue Jul 17, 2012 10:10 pm

rcklsscognition wrote:Why do we not want a guy who doesn't join huddles because he is “getting my Zen on.”? You people can't be satisfied.

Yes, we don't want Bynum because he didn't join a huddle once, obviously.

T-Rob · Post #72 » by **T-Rob** » Tue Jul 17, 2012 10:10 pm

thelead wrote:Leadership in sports is way overrated. I wouldn't call lebron, wade, or bosh great leaders and they're not doing too bad.

And I hate all of those players, let me know when we can get a Duncan or nowitzki type.

rcklsscognition · Post #73 » by **rcklsscognition** » Tue Jul 17, 2012 10:11 pm

InFlames wrote:
rcklsscognition wrote:Why do we not want a guy who doesn't join huddles because he is “getting my Zen on.”? You people can't be satisfied.

Yes, we don't want Bynum because he didn't join a huddle once, obviously.

Finally got you to admit your real stance on this issue.

thelead · Post #74 » by **thelead** » Tue Jul 17, 2012 10:11 pm

T-Rob wrote:
thelead wrote:Leadership in sports is way overrated. I wouldn't call lebron, wade, or bosh great leaders and they're not doing too bad.

And I hate all of those players, let me know when we can get a Duncan or nowitzki type.

And win? Very, very low percentage of that actually happen.

InFlames · Post #75 » by **InFlames** » Tue Jul 17, 2012 10:11 pm

RickB-Orlando wrote:Yeah, but that's not about getting shots. It's something that happened in the heat of the moment. Not his best moment without a doubt, but everybody makes mistakes. I mean, look at Dwight, the paragon of virtue, leaving illegitimate kids in his wake and trashing his franchise. Bynum would be worse...?

Right but my point is that this isn't the only douche thing he has done. You can take 2 seconds to google him and find all sorts of ****. If you have been listening to what Rob has been saying, he won't trade for this guy.

InFlames · Post #76 » by **InFlames** » Tue Jul 17, 2012 10:12 pm

rcklsscognition wrote:
InFlames wrote:
rcklsscognition wrote:Why do we not want a guy who doesn't join huddles because he is “getting my Zen on.”? You people can't be satisfied.

Yes, we don't want Bynum because he didn't join a huddle once, obviously.

Finally got you to admit your real stance on this issue.

What?

arsenal6106 · Post #77 » by **arsenal6106** » Tue Jul 17, 2012 10:13 pm

I want to win a championship within the next 5 years. Which realistic trade gives us the best chance to do that?

InFlames · Post #78 » by **InFlames** » Tue Jul 17, 2012 10:15 pm

arsenal6106 wrote:I want to win a championship within the next 5 years. Which realistic trade gives us the best chance to do that?

I don't really know. Personally, I hope we blow it all up and trade with Houston.

MAGICian619 · Post #79 » by **MAGICian619** » Tue Jul 17, 2012 10:15 pm

arsenal6106 wrote:I want to win a championship within the next 5 years. Which realistic trade gives us the best chance to do that?

Trade ur alience to the Heat. :banghead:

OrlChamps2030 · Post #80 » by **OrlChamps2030** » Tue Jul 17, 2012 10:16 pm

InFlames wrote:
arsenal6106 wrote:I want to win a championship within the next 5 years. Which realistic trade gives us the best chance to do that?

I don't really know. Personally, I hope we blow it all up and trade with Houston.

I think we all know what you hope happens :lol:

Bynum is the best retooling option.. Rockets are the best rebuilding option. I would be happy with either.

IMO you shouldn't rebuild when you have the option of retooling, but its up to Henny.