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Official Speculation Thread (Pt.LIII "Lottery/Draft"Edition)

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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt.LIII "Lottery/Draft"Edit 

Post#61 » by BadMofoPimp » Sun Apr 7, 2013 2:51 am

Burke or bust now.
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Post#62 » by tiderulz » Sun Apr 7, 2013 3:39 am

BadMofoPimp wrote:Burke or bust now.


Burke kind of looked like a bust this game. not his best by far.
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Post#63 » by Driguez » Sun Apr 7, 2013 5:21 am

Noonskadoodle wrote:
InFlames wrote:
flying_mollusk wrote:Good article on Burke comparing him to Chris Paul.

http://www.kansas.com/2013/04/05/274829 ... right.html


Good read ty


Burke plays with the passion of two-time NBA champion Isiah Thomas. He has court vision similar to that of Steve Nash, as Burke led the Big Ten with 6.6 assists to go along with his 18.8 points. Burke leads like Chris Paul and he can get to the basket with a fearlessness that resembles Allen Iverson.



Talk about praise.

:lol: :lol: :lol:



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Post#64 » by Bensational » Sun Apr 7, 2013 6:04 am

i wouldn't hold this game against Burke, same way i wouldn't hold Smart's performance in the 1st round against him.

the question will be, does Burke have the skills to elevate his game not only to the professional level, but to star-quality level? right now, for me, he's closer to Jameer than he is to Chris Paul/Nash/Thomas/etc, like that article suggested. his advantage is his wingspan, and that he's a better passer. that could be enough to take him well above Nelson's NBA performances.

i can't wait for the lottery, and for more scouting reports to start coming out about these guys.
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Post#65 » by arsenal6106 » Sun Apr 7, 2013 7:53 am

Noonskadoodle wrote:COMPLETELY OT....but any baseball fans just catch that Braves ending?

Braves down 1 going to the bottom of the 9th & BJ Upton (Older Bro) leads it off with a homer to tie it.....after 1 out....Justin Upton (Younger Bro) hits a walkoff homer. Pretty nuts.


That's pretty nifty.
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Post#66 » by drsd » Sun Apr 7, 2013 11:16 am

BadMofoPimp wrote:Burke or bust now.


Maybe the Magic can trade thei high 1st plus Davis and Harrington to draft Burke, Glen Robinson, Mitch McGary, and Tim Hardaway.


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Post#67 » by Furinkazan » Sun Apr 7, 2013 12:16 pm

so he went up from Kemba Walker comparision to Paul?:o

Duhon more likely
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Post#68 » by MoMM » Sun Apr 7, 2013 2:21 pm

Noonskadoodle wrote:
InFlames wrote:
flying_mollusk wrote:Good article on Burke comparing him to Chris Paul.

http://www.kansas.com/2013/04/05/274829 ... right.html


Good read ty


Burke plays with the passion of two-time NBA champion Isiah Thomas. He has court vision similar to that of Steve Nash, as Burke led the Big Ten with 6.6 assists to go along with his 18.8 points. Burke leads like Chris Paul and he can get to the basket with a fearlessness that resembles Allen Iverson.



Talk about praise.

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Uhow... Nash's court vision, CP3 leading and Iverson scoring? How cant he be #1? :P
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Post#69 » by MoMM » Sun Apr 7, 2013 2:22 pm

VGOSWAMI wrote:That paragraph on Burke reminded me of this gem.
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Post#70 » by MoMM » Sun Apr 7, 2013 2:24 pm

drsd wrote:
BadMofoPimp wrote:Burke or bust now.


Maybe the Magic can trade thei high 1st plus Davis and Harrington to draft Burke, Glen Robinson, Mitch McGary, and Tim Hardaway.


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Post#71 » by glennathan » Sun Apr 7, 2013 3:46 pm

Noonskadoodle wrote:COMPLETELY OT....but any baseball fans just catch that Braves ending?

Braves down 1 going to the bottom of the 9th & BJ Upton (Older Bro) leads it off with a homer to tie it.....after 1 out....Justin Upton (Younger Bro) hits a walkoff homer. Pretty nuts.


I sure did!! :D big time Braves fan here!!
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Post#72 » by IGotDaMagicInMe » Sun Apr 7, 2013 8:35 pm

~Snoopy~ wrote:so he went up from Kemba Walker comparision to Paul?:o

Duhon more likely



To be honest I liked Kemba more than I like Burke
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Post#73 » by cvMagic » Sun Apr 7, 2013 11:14 pm

With no clear cut option this year, the Magic have to go with Nerlens Noel. Two big reasons:

1. Solid big men with potential are always killer assets, gives the Magic a killer abundance of them

2. Most important - there's a great chance he misses at least some of next season, cementing the Magic in potential top 5 pick territory in one of the deepest drafts (2014) in almost a decade. The last thing we need is some overachieving and healthy rookie coming in and screwing that up.
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Post#74 » by tiderulz » Mon Apr 8, 2013 1:33 am

cvMagic wrote:With no clear cut option this year, the Magic have to go with Nerlens Noel. Two big reasons:

1. Solid big men with potential are always killer assets, gives the Magic a killer abundance of them

2. Most important - there's a great chance he misses at least some of next season, cementing the Magic in potential top 5 pick territory in one of the deepest drafts (2014) in almost a decade. The last thing we need is some overachieving and healthy rookie coming in and screwing that up.


the number of top 10 "big men" (some top 5) to be less than stellar over the past few years.

Thomas Robinson
Jonas Valančiūnas (opinion still out on him)
Jan VEssely
Epke Udoh
Greg Monroe
Hasheem Thabeet
Jordan Hill
Bismack Biyombo
Tristan Thompson

ones that panned out so far
Blake Griffin
Favors
Cousins
Davis
Drummond

less than 50% success rate over the past 4 years
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Post#75 » by Neon1 » Mon Apr 8, 2013 1:37 am

tiderulz wrote:
the number of top 10 "big men" (some top 5) to be less than stellar over the past few years.

less than 50% success rate over the past 4 years


Pretty sure that can be said regardless of positions.
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Post#76 » by Reverse_Angle » Mon Apr 8, 2013 2:02 am

tiderulz wrote:
cvMagic wrote:With no clear cut option this year, the Magic have to go with Nerlens Noel. Two big reasons:

1. Solid big men with potential are always killer assets, gives the Magic a killer abundance of them

2. Most important - there's a great chance he misses at least some of next season, cementing the Magic in potential top 5 pick territory in one of the deepest drafts (2014) in almost a decade. The last thing we need is some overachieving and healthy rookie coming in and screwing that up.


the number of top 10 "big men" (some top 5) to be less than stellar over the past few years.

Thomas Robinson
Jonas Valančiūnas (opinion still out on him)
Jan VEssely
Epke Udoh
Greg Monroe
Hasheem Thabeet
Jordan Hill
Bismack Biyombo
Tristan Thompson

ones that panned out so far
Blake Griffin
Favors
Cousins
Davis
Drummond

less than 50% success rate over the past 4 years


I would not call most members of the "success column" as successes yet.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt.LIII "Lottery/Draft"Edit 

Post#77 » by RapHippy » Mon Apr 8, 2013 2:12 am

tiderulz wrote:
cvMagic wrote:With no clear cut option this year, the Magic have to go with Nerlens Noel. Two big reasons:

1. Solid big men with potential are always killer assets, gives the Magic a killer abundance of them

2. Most important - there's a great chance he misses at least some of next season, cementing the Magic in potential top 5 pick territory in one of the deepest drafts (2014) in almost a decade. The last thing we need is some overachieving and healthy rookie coming in and screwing that up.


the number of top 10 "big men" (some top 5) to be less than stellar over the past few years.

Thomas Robinson
Jonas Valančiūnas (opinion still out on him)
Jan VEssely
Epke Udoh
Greg Monroe
Hasheem Thabeet
Jordan Hill
Bismack Biyombo
Tristan Thompson

ones that panned out so far
Blake Griffin
Favors
Cousins
Davis
Drummond

less than 50% success rate over the past 4 years


So you consider Drummond,Davis and Favors panned out, but Greg Monroe not..?

Also Valančiūnas is pretty talented, and has been great since all star break, while being injured for most of the time before it. He isn't "panned out" but he is a very talented rookie.
Tristan Thompson has also seemed to be able to take a step in the right direction. He's been playing very well on Cleveland.
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Post#78 » by tiderulz » Mon Apr 8, 2013 2:16 am

^^giving a little benefit of the doubt. And Monroe has looked out of sorts now that he isnt at center. And my comment was less than stellar, not that they havent panned out yet.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt.LIII "Lottery/Draft"Edit 

Post#79 » by I Rasharted » Mon Apr 8, 2013 2:19 am

tiderulz wrote:
cvMagic wrote:With no clear cut option this year, the Magic have to go with Nerlens Noel. Two big reasons:

1. Solid big men with potential are always killer assets, gives the Magic a killer abundance of them

2. Most important - there's a great chance he misses at least some of next season, cementing the Magic in potential top 5 pick territory in one of the deepest drafts (2014) in almost a decade. The last thing we need is some overachieving and healthy rookie coming in and screwing that up.


the number of top 10 "big men" (some top 5) to be less than stellar over the past few years.

Thomas Robinson
Jonas Valančiūnas (opinion still out on him)
Jan VEssely
Epke Udoh
Greg Monroe
Hasheem Thabeet
Jordan Hill
Bismack Biyombo
Tristan Thompson

ones that panned out so far
Blake Griffin
Favors
Cousins
Davis
Drummond

less than 50% success rate over the past 4 years

Utterly absurd post. Some picks are flops, therefore players of similar height should be avoided in the future. Got it.
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Post#80 » by Noonskadoodle » Mon Apr 8, 2013 3:19 am

Will Barton ballin for Portland.

He is crazy athletic at the 2 spot & does so many things on the court.

22 points 8-9 from the line 13 boards 6 assists 4 steals 0 TOs

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