D'Lo Watch: All things D'Lo related

[swarlesbarkley]

Man if we got DLo we'd potentially have top 6 picks at each position on the court:

Fultz: 1st pick, 2017
Russell: 2nd pick, 2015
Isaac: 6th pick, 2017
Gordon: 4th pick, 2014
Bamba: 6th pick, 2018

[MagicFan101]

Man if we got DLo we'd potentially have top 6 picks at each position on the court:

Fultz: 1st pick, 2017
Russell: 2nd pick, 2015
Isaac: 6th pick, 2017
Gordon: 4th pick, 2014
Bamba: 6th pick, 2018

Forget that! What about only top 3 picks! That would be killer!

Fultz: 1st pick, 2017
OJ Mayo: 3rd pick, 2009
Adam Morrison: 3rd pick, 2006
Anthony Bennett: 1st pick, 2013
Hasheem Thabeet: 2nd pick, 2009

[KillMonger]

jesus man, people are really still talking about something that isn't happening? why waste the energy?

[MagicFan101]

jesus man, people are really still talking about something that isn't happening? why waste the energy?

“Talking about something that isn’t happening”

Isn’t that at least 99% of what this place is about?

Speculation, rumors, hope, dreams ... why else come here?

[basketballRob]

Vuc also had bad shot selection for a number of years, which is why he was so inefficient despite being a good scorer/shooter for a big man. I think players just naturally find out what shots are good and bad for them in time, since he's only 23.

Some do, some don't. I wouldn't blame you or anyone else for making that bet tho. Again, if you can sign D-lo in the 17-20 range (or even 21-23) you are happy. I'm not making the case that he isnt a good player. My whole argument is that I wouldn't pay him max money. I think any team that does will regret it.

I'm with you in that I believe that Russell is severely overrated on this forum; perhaps because he happened to scorch us this season. We have a huge issue at the point guard position though, and so I'd be much more amenable to paying Russell than paying Vucevic. It has less to do with Russell versus Vucevic than it does to the fact that Augustin is our starting PG. I see this as a huge problem for the development of our young players.

Augustin doesn't create passing lanes and he rarely sees open teammates. His passes are seldom on time or accurate. It annoys the hell out of me when he throws a pass to the feet of a man in the corner, or when he completely misses a wide open cutter, or when he fails to see someone all alone on the perimeter while they are jumping up and down and waving their hands in the air to get attention.

We need a real point guard if we are going to develop the off ball skills of young bigs. Russell is far from ideal as an option for me though.

Russell put up elite stats for a 22 year old, stats that only hall of famers have done before.

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[KillMonger]

jesus man, people are really still talking about something that isn't happening? why waste the energy?

“Talking about something that isn’t happening”

Isn’t that at least 99% of what this place is about?

Speculation, rumors, hope, dreams ... why else come here?

in general yes, but in this particular situation it makes no sense to me....it had no legs from the rip....and still doesn't

[Nyce_1]

jesus man, people are really still talking about something that isn't happening? why waste the energy?

“Talking about something that isn’t happening”

Isn’t that at least 99% of what this place is about?

Speculation, rumors, hope, dreams ... why else come here?

Facts.

[Rainwater]

I wouldn't like to pay max salary to D-Lo of all people. It would be a big mistake. And honestly I'm sure WeHam won't do it so I'm at ease.

He really is not worth it, pretty overrated but the magic are desperate.

[Rainwater]

This. I trust our FO and their financial responsibility. Pete (assistant GM) is good.

In the end, i think DLo makes ~$20-23M. I dont think he gets max.

How lucky would we be to get a 23yr old guard on the rise, with elite passing, and still improving? If he continues to develop and Fultz becomes anything, I'm saying it now, we'll be an elite team. Great guards, exceptional wings, and some awesome bigs.

who are the exceptional wings?

I feel AG and Isaac have that potential.

AG has had potential the last 6 years lol

[Rainwater]

I'm afraid we missed the boat on Dlo being signed at a reasonable number - we should've had our eyes on him when he was either injured or riding the bench in BK - not after highlight playoff performances. We need to consider how likely it is over the next few years that we draft or sign a player like him. Don't want to give him the max, but we would likely need to if we really value his marked improvements, age, and timeline fit.

He won't be getting paid off of anything he did in the playoffs. Yes, he scored 19ppg but did it with a 35 fg% and 32 3pt fg% while posting a -5.1 BPM (-4.9 obpm, 89 ortg, 117 drtg) for that series. He largely got exposed and showed why there is no world where I would consider giving him a max contract. I would max Vuc before I maxed D-lo and I have no interest in doing that either.

This is the truth. He is as much as a star as Vuc is lol.

[VFX]

jesus man, people are really still talking about something that isn't happening? why waste the energy?

“Talking about something that isn’t happening”

Isn’t that at least 99% of what this place is about?

Speculation, rumors, hope, dreams ... why else come here?

in general yes, but in this particular situation it makes no sense to me....it had no legs from the rip....and still doesn't

While true, at least Magic were listed as an extremely interested party involved in discussions with Russell. It seems like there are never rumors with Orlando and we are never talked about regardless of it being true or not. If the Magic are even remotely connected it’s considered newsworthy.

[pepe1991]

jesus man, people are really still talking about something that isn't happening? why waste the energy?

“Talking about something that isn’t happening”

Isn’t that at least 99% of what this place is about?

Speculation, rumors, hope, dreams ... why else come here?

in general yes, but in this particular situation it makes no sense to me....it had no legs from the rip....and still doesn't

It's almost impossible to go through this type of move.
Magic would have to be 100% sure he'll sign to make all the moves before he signs, that would include moving Mozgov and DJ to free up cap space and would probably require moving pick.

I said it on start, i think it's just D'Lo's agent leaking things to get leverage and push Nets into max contract. Him staying with Nets is more benefitial to him than any other move. Ofc because of Irving interest in Nets he could find himself in position to find new landing spot.

[NotACat]

who are the exceptional wings?

I feel AG and Isaac have that potential.

AG has had potential the last 6 years lol

And AG has continued to improve and evolve his game every damn year.

[Nyce_1]

I feel AG and Isaac have that potential.

AG has had potential the last 6 years lol

And AG has continued to improve and evolve his game every damn year.

All while having a different coach and role every season of 2. Hope to see continued growth with Cliff and stability.

[axl_c_cool]

This is a deal we have to change and I would pay D’Angelo max if that’s what’s needed. A backcourt with Fultz could potentially be very high level. Vucevic can be replaced as people have said. It’s also been missed that the cap space leaves us open to other free agents or we can take on a contract until 2021 for future picks/assets

[cb1115]

AG has had potential the last 6 years lol

And AG has continued to improve and evolve his game every damn year.

All while having a different coach and role every season of 2. Hope to see continued growth with Cliff and stability.

it's actually pretty remarkable that we didn't ruin him, honestly.

ended up being our best player during the postseason despite all of the early-career shenanigans.

[Max Power]

I love how you guys all want to max out a dime a dozen point guard with behavioral problems in his history rather than reward the all star center who’s signed on for less money at one time because he believed in the franchise. Vucevic has only two to three people possibly ahead of him at his position in the entire league, where Deangelo Russell is a mid grade starter at best.

[j-ragg]

I love how you guys all want to max out a dime a dozen point guard with behavioral problems in his history rather than reward the all star center who’s signed on for less money at one time because he believed in the franchise. Vucevic has only two to three people possibly ahead of him at his position in the entire league, where Deangelo Russell is a mid grade starter at best.

"behavioral problems" "because he believed in the franchise" lol

[Skybox]

I love how you guys all want to max out a dime a dozen point guard with behavioral problems in his history rather than reward the all star center who’s signed on for less money at one time because he believed in the franchise. Vucevic has only two to three people possibly ahead of him at his position in the entire league, where Deangelo Russell is a mid grade starter at best.

"behavioral problems" "because he believed in the franchise" lol

Sounds like re-signing Bo Outlaw over Ben Wallace for "loyalty"

[MagicFan101]

Step 1) Sacrifice Vuc and Ross to the basketball gods for D'Lo

Step 2) Draft NAW or KZ Okpala

Step 3) Resign Birch

Step 4) Explore PF depth in the 2nd round

Step 5) Look to move DJ at the trade deadline if Fultz appears capable of offering at least backup minutes.

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D'Lo, Fultz
Evan, KZ
Isaac, Iwandu
AG, DJ trade or 2nd rounder
Bamba + Birch (Bamba isn't ready for the full load)


What I like about this is that D'Lo and Fultz can coexist together in the starting lineup if Fultz returns to form. Else we have an insurance plan in KZ (or NAW or whoever) whenever we can move on from Evan.