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The Franz Wagner Thread

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What is Franz’s ceiling?

HOF potential (1st team All-NBA)
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8%
Perennial All-star (4+ appearances)
43
61%
High-end starter (Prime Turk)
20
28%
Average starter (Bogdonavic)
2
3%
Borderline starter (Fournier)
0
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Sixth man
0
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Re: The Franz Wagner Thread 

Post#61 » by KillMonger » Mon Feb 5, 2024 4:46 am

There were actually some posters talking about trading Franz.......like huh?

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Re: The Franz Wagner Thread 

Post#62 » by fendilim » Mon Feb 5, 2024 5:14 am

Need to see more of this from him.

He actually talked about this in the redick podcast. About having the killer instinct
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Post#63 » by jezzerinho » Mon Feb 5, 2024 7:46 am

KillMonger wrote:There were actually some posters talking about trading Franz.......like huh?

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Hes personally my fave player on the team and very close between him and Paolo for best player in pinstripes.

But if a trade came up for another star, would i do it? Depending on the guy, why not consider it?

Look at the Sabonis/Haliburton trade. Both teams were objectively much better for having swapped players. Those trades arent conmon but they do exist.

Im not looking to trade either of the 2 stars, but my antenna would be up for a blockbuster that improves the team.
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Re: The Franz Wagner Thread 

Post#64 » by RookieStar » Mon Feb 5, 2024 7:49 am

KillMonger wrote:There were actually some posters talking about trading Franz.......like huh?

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Are those all in good fun? If not... we need receipts.
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Post#65 » by JBSouthpaw » Mon Feb 5, 2024 12:30 pm

eyriq wrote:
JBSouthpaw wrote:
eyriq wrote:That's remarkable

What may be more remarkable, 0-0 FTs, I’m sure the only one on this list with 0 FTs. Wonder if this is a league high points w/o any FTs?
I liked how Mosley emphasized the number of drives into the paint without a call.

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Post#66 » by ORLMagicGirl15 » Mon Feb 5, 2024 12:53 pm

RookieStar wrote:
KillMonger wrote:There were actually some posters talking about trading Franz.......like huh?

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Are those all in good fun? If not... we need receipts.

You can read it on the TWolves game thread. And it's been sprinkled around other threads and they sound serious.
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Post#67 » by tooler » Mon Feb 5, 2024 1:03 pm

It's just from people excited about Paolo and wanting to surround him with shooters. Meanwhile we can't even replace Markelle Fultz with a shooter. :lol: They would never even get to "upgrade Franz" on the todo list.
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Re: The Franz Wagner Thread 

Post#68 » by msmoore66 » Wed Feb 7, 2024 2:21 am

Bin 'em. Nah I love him.
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Post#69 » by MasterGMer » Wed Feb 7, 2024 3:25 am

7 Turnovers today? I still love you, Franz
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Post#70 » by tooler » Wed Feb 7, 2024 4:27 am

MasterGMer wrote:7 Turnovers today? I still love you, Franz

A great reminder that we all make mistakes sometimes.

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Re: The Franz Wagner Thread 

Post#71 » by MagicStarwipe » Thu Feb 8, 2024 9:21 am

I know he's shot a bit better lately, but his shot looks kind of busted to me. I don't have much confidence when he launches a 3 anymore. He's gotta do some work on that this offseason.
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Re: The Franz Wagner Thread 

Post#72 » by Knightro » Sun Feb 11, 2024 10:26 pm

Franz so far in February (5 games, 4-1 record)

28.0 PPG, 4.8 RPG, 4.4 APG, 1.0 SPG, 0.6 BPG, 2.0 TOV on a .563/.371/.826 slash.

And that includes one of the worst games of his career in Miami on 2/6!
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Re: The Franz Wagner Thread 

Post#73 » by KillMonger » Sun Feb 11, 2024 10:41 pm

Knightro wrote:Franz so far in February (5 games, 4-1 record)

28.0 PPG, 4.8 RPG, 4.4 APG, 1.0 SPG, 0.6 BPG, 2.0 TOV on a .563/.371/.826 slash.

And that includes one of the worst games of his career in Miami on 2/6!

we all love paolo but we got to give franz his flowers as well, he's good enough to build around on his own right
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Re: The Franz Wagner Thread 

Post#74 » by jezzerinho » Sun Feb 11, 2024 11:40 pm

He looks more agressive in the past month. Aggressive Franz is a scary prospect for the rest of the league.
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Re: The Franz Wagner Thread 

Post#75 » by zaymon » Mon Feb 12, 2024 8:06 am

It seems like Paolo thinks they are equal. Vs Bulls he deffered to Franz late in the game. That would be the best case scenario, defense cant prepare for one player.
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Re: The Franz Wagner Thread 

Post#76 » by Rainwater » Mon Feb 12, 2024 3:03 pm

zaymon wrote:It seems like Paolo thinks they are equal. Vs Bulls he deffered to Franz late in the game. That would be the best case scenario, defense cant prepare for one player.



Yeah, Paolo definitely deferred as he focused on passing the ball.
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Re: The Franz Wagner Thread 

Post#77 » by eyriq » Mon Feb 12, 2024 3:07 pm

zaymon wrote:It seems like Paolo thinks they are equal. Vs Bulls he deffered to Franz late in the game. That would be the best case scenario, defense cant prepare for one player.
This seems accurate. They seem to have a tremendous mutual respect for each other. I think Franz's no nonsense professional work ethic and "do what wins" mindset allows Paolo to relax and defer when required. They are both mature beyond their years
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Re: The Franz Wagner Thread 

Post#78 » by Knightro » Mon Feb 12, 2024 3:41 pm

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Re: The Franz Wagner Thread 

Post#79 » by Skybox » Mon Feb 12, 2024 3:55 pm

This guy can truly be anything he wants...he can be elite at whatever he prioritizes (maybe not D, but he's long and competitive enough to be solid). I think he's an ideal 3rd option who can still score inside and out, average close to 20ppg and progress as more of a spot-up shooter without giving up his elite ability to navigate to the rim. Paolo is the Alpha Dog, but he's an Alpha Dog in the genre of Jokic (not Iverson or Durant). I think the ideal offensive configuration is another high scoring aggressive guard, which will kind of relegate Franz to more of a Turk role (but much better)...knowing he can get to he hoop anytime he wants, knock down open 3's if that's tonight's assignment, bring up the ball and/or move it around the perimeter...he's an offensive chameleon. This is not, in my mind, a negative thing...I also think he will score 40+ on many nights in his career.
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Re: The Franz Wagner Thread 

Post#80 » by tooler » Mon Feb 12, 2024 5:39 pm

Just like Turk, he might be a 3rd option in the grind of the regular season, but in the playoffs you’ll try your two 6’10” forwards first and let the little guard throw up a shot late if needed.

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