How can this team turn from a Playoff team to Championship Contention?

[BadMofoPimp]

When was the last time a team won the title without having All-NBA player on its roster?

By the time the Magic win a ship, either Franz or Paolo will become one.

[eyriq]

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[pepe1991]

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Non of his very long list of injuries occured because of contact with other players. We are all concerned because his body has nasty habbit of collapsing and putting more pressure on already shaky knees and ankles sounds like very dumb idea. Because it normally is- very dumb idea.

[SOUL]

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Non of his very long list of injuries occured because of contact with other players. We are all concerned because his body has nasty habbit of collapsing and putting more pressure on already shaky knees and ankles sounds like very dumb idea. Because it normally is- very dumb idea.

I think opposite, if he tries to play more like a 5 and less like a 3 (hurt doing Eurosteps or quick twitchy stuff), may help him be less reckless with his body. Don't think there is any real correlation between injuries and weight with Isaac (unless a player is overweight) considering he got hurt already so much being skinnier.

[BadMofoPimp]

I think what others are saying is that in order for Orlando to be in true contention, that their asset pool of talent needs to become more than what they have shown to an exponential degree relative to their draft position.

Not only in terms of contribution on the court, but in terms of asset value for potential trades down the road.

Orlando has spent a lot of draft capital to build this roster. Paolo, Franz, Suggs have met or exceeded expectations at this point. AB and Jett will need to at the very least meet expectations in order for Orlando to start being considered contenders IF the bar being set is the current Boston Celtics roster.

I’d agree also that one of Paolo or Franz MUST be considered an all nba talent as well.

If that ends up being Vegas odds, I would put a grand or two on that bet.

[SHAQ32]

They're still trying to sell 58-game, 16-mpg Isaac, smh

[Knightro]

ESPN predicts a 43 win season, and if "Paolo Banchero takes the next step", then 45 wins.

What a joke. Reasonably assuming F-Wagner and Banchero will be more efficient on offense, that the Magic will take and make more threes, and still continue to be an elite defensive team, all simple predictions, this team wins more than 45 games.

And let's go to extremes, I think this roster is more likely to win 60 games than 40 (or less). (of course they won't but it emphasizes my point).

Orlando is now better than mediocre. Will the team contend this year? No. But it will compete every night.

Here's my bold prediction: Orlando will lose by 10 (or more) in less than 10 games.
For perspective, last year the Magic lost 19 games by 10-or more. And the Celts lost 5 such games.
"Never" being blown out will show real growth for this roster. That's what I see as a goal this season.

40 wins is WAY more likely than 60, man. C’mon now.

[drsd]

ESPN predicts a 43 win season, and if "Paolo Banchero takes the next step", then 45 wins.

What a joke. Reasonably assuming F-Wagner and Banchero will be more efficient on offense, that the Magic will take and make more threes, and still continue to be an elite defensive team, all simple predictions, this team wins more than 45 games.

And let's go to extremes, I think this roster is more likely to win 60 games than 40 (or less). (of course they won't but it emphasizes my point).

Orlando is now better than mediocre. Will the team contend this year? No. But it will compete every night.

Here's my bold prediction: Orlando will lose by 10 (or more) in less than 10 games.
For perspective, last year the Magic lost 19 games by 10-or more. And the Celts lost 5 such games.
"Never" being blown out will show real growth for this roster. That's what I see as a goal this season.

40 wins is WAY more likely than 60, man. C’mon now.

I agree. But UNDER 40 is less likely than MORE than 50.
Restated: a 50 win season would not surprise me.

Go MAGIC!


p.s. my not-money is currently on 49 wins. Let's see how the preseason games go to modify that view of mine.


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[drsd]

They're still trying to sell 58-game, 16-mpg Isaac, smh

Carter wants 82 games; one can dream!

[anothermagicfan]

ESPN predicts a 43 win season, and if "Paolo Banchero takes the next step", then 45 wins.

What a joke. Reasonably assuming F-Wagner and Banchero will be more efficient on offense, that the Magic will take and make more threes, and still continue to be an elite defensive team, all simple predictions, this team wins more than 45 games.

And let's go to extremes, I think this roster is more likely to win 60 games than 40 (or less). (of course they won't but it emphasizes my point).

Orlando is now better than mediocre. Will the team contend this year? No. But it will compete every night.

Here's my bold prediction: Orlando will lose by 10 (or more) in less than 10 games.
For perspective, last year the Magic lost 19 games by 10-or more. And the Celts lost 5 such games.
"Never" being blown out will show real growth for this roster. That's what I see as a goal this season.

40 wins is WAY more likely than 60, man. C’mon now.

I agree. But UNDER 40 is less likely than MORE than 50.
Restated: a 50 win season would not surprise me.

Go MAGIC!


p.s. my not-money is currently on 49 wins. Let's see how the preseason games go to modify that view of mine.


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I agree that we're closer to 50 than under 40. There's 4 teams in the east that are the clear favorites for home court advantage. We're in the next tier of playoff bound teams.

2 of those top 4 teams have trajectories that could change drastically with the health and availability of guys like embiid and PG or the Greek freak and liliard. Of course we're subject to the same line of thinking health wise.

As for the other teams that would appear playoff bound none of them including us has set themselves apart to really be in consideration of jumping one of the top four teams. That will be what this season is about.

[eyriq]

I have the reasonable range of wins as between 42 and 57.

[p0peye]

I'd be surprised if we have less than 42 or more then 48 wins.

[RichCollab]

I'd be surprised if we have less than 42 or more then 48 wins.

I will take the over on 48 wins.

[p0peye]

I'd be surprised if we have less than 42 or more then 48 wins.

I will take the over on 48 wins.

Sounds good, willing to bet 50 USD (EUR) Amazon eGift card for fun.

[RichCollab]

I'd be surprised if we have less than 42 or more then 48 wins.

I will take the over on 48 wins.

Sounds good, willing to bet 50 USD (EUR) Amazon eGift card for fun.

Absolutely.

[p0peye]

I will take the over on 48 wins.

Sounds good, willing to bet 50 USD (EUR) Amazon eGift card for fun.

Absolutely.

It's a bet then. From my perspective, whatever happens it is a win.

[magicfan217]

There is absolutely no reason not to expect this team to improve this year. I am not attaching a number of wins to that because there are a ton of factors that go into that but when your best players are all this young and you've been able to have this much continuity you should expect improvement.

Adding a vet like KCP and the improved depth of the roster only bolsters that expectation.

[p0peye]

I will take the over on 48 wins.

Sounds good, willing to bet 50 USD (EUR) Amazon eGift card for fun.

Absolutely.

It's pretty much a sure thing I am winning this bet two weeks into the season. I will let you off the hook because it's Paolo's injury that is deciding factor so early.

[p0peye]

Sounds good, willing to bet 50 USD (EUR) Amazon eGift card for fun.

Absolutely.

It's pretty much a sure thing I am winning this bet two weeks into the season. I will let you off the hook because it's Paolo's injury that is deciding factor so early.

If you still think you have a chance, we can keep the bet, I am not avoiding it.

[RichCollab]

Absolutely.

It's pretty much a sure thing I am winning this bet two weeks into the season. I will let you off the hook because it's Paolo's injury that is deciding factor so early.

If you still think you have a chance, we can keep the bet, I am not avoiding it.

I’m good keeping it.