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Re: Official 2024-2024 Magic Trade Ideas Thread 

Post#61 » by cedric76 » Mon Oct 28, 2024 11:47 am

drsd wrote:
cedric76 wrote:Cole + worst of our 2025 FRP (ORL - denver) for Dorian Finney-Smith

Mosley loved him in Dallas and he is a wepark type of player


Suggs, black, cojo
Kcp, Harris, Jett
Franz,DFS, Jett
Paolo,JI, DFS
Wcj, Moe,goga

No more Cole bonehead plays
We get another good 2 way player


I love the idea of trading Anthony + a low FRP for a quality backup SF. I am not sure that Finney-Smith is a SF though.


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I d say he is more a pf now but can defend SF , coach mose liked him a lot in Dallas and wepark love 2 way players
Suggs, AB, Jase
Bane, Melton, Jett
Franz, TDS, Houstan
P5, JI, Panda
Wcj, Goga, Moe
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Re: Official 2024-2024 Magic Trade Ideas Thread 

Post#62 » by JoshuaPotter » Mon Oct 28, 2024 1:09 pm

Honestly guys, I do not see us doing addition by addition. I see us doing addition by subtraction.

7-11 could be more top heavy or use more minutes. Some of these trade ideas while in theory making us better still need minutes to pan out.
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Re: Official 2024-2024 Magic Trade Ideas Thread 

Post#63 » by CarraT » Mon Oct 28, 2024 2:29 pm

We need a quality combo F backup. Cam Johnson or Dorian Finney-Smith for Cole plus filler would be great.
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Re: Official 2024-2024 Magic Trade Ideas Thread 

Post#64 » by basketballRob » Mon Oct 28, 2024 3:01 pm

CarraT wrote:We need a quality combo F backup. Cam Johnson or Dorian Finney-Smith for Cole plus filler would be great.
I agree. I hate the 3 guard lineups we've been playing.

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Re: Official 2024-2024 Magic Trade Ideas Thread 

Post#65 » by RichCollab » Mon Oct 28, 2024 3:07 pm

CarraT wrote:We need a quality combo F backup. Cam Johnson or Dorian Finney-Smith for Cole plus filler would be great.


Cole is not an asset so other teams aren’t going to take him unless we add a sweetener.
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Re: Official 2024-2024 Magic Trade Ideas Thread 

Post#66 » by basketballRob » Mon Oct 28, 2024 3:13 pm

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CarraT wrote:We need a quality combo F backup. Cam Johnson or Dorian Finney-Smith for Cole plus filler would be great.


Cole is not an asset so other teams aren’t going to take him unless we add a sweetener.
We could add TDS.

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Re: Official 2024-2024 Magic Trade Ideas Thread 

Post#67 » by RichCollab » Mon Oct 28, 2024 3:20 pm

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RichCollab wrote:
CarraT wrote:We need a quality combo F backup. Cam Johnson or Dorian Finney-Smith for Cole plus filler would be great.


Cole is not an asset so other teams aren’t going to take him unless we add a sweetener.
We could add TDS.

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Cam Johnson is making 23 million per. Not sure we can add that much for a backup.

To make the money work.
Harris
TDS
Cole

That would result in:

Suggs / Black / Corey
KCP / Jett / Open
Franz / Cam Johnson / Caleb
Paolo / JI / Open
WCJ / Moe / Goga
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Post#68 » by djguevara114 » Mon Oct 28, 2024 4:01 pm

The answer IMO would be to trade Anthony, Harris, and Houstan and 2-3 2nd Round Picks for DFS and Schroeder.

WCJ / Mo / Goga
Banchero / Isaac / DFS
Franz / DFS / TDS
Suggs / KCP / Howard
Black / Schroeder / Joseph
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Post#69 » by eyriq » Mon Oct 28, 2024 4:10 pm

djguevara114 wrote:The answer IMO would be to trade Anthony, Harris, and Houstan and 2-3 2nd Round Picks for DFS and Schroeder.

WCJ / Mo / Goga
Banchero / Isaac / DFS
Franz / DFS / TDS
Suggs / KCP / Howard
Black / Schroeder / Joseph
I love this
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Post#70 » by Skybox » Mon Oct 28, 2024 5:10 pm

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djguevara114 wrote:The answer IMO would be to trade Anthony, Harris, and Houstan and 2-3 2nd Round Picks for DFS and Schroeder.

WCJ / Mo / Goga
Banchero / Isaac / DFS
Franz / DFS / TDS
Suggs / KCP / Howard
Black / Schroeder / Joseph
I love this


Might take a frp, imo...DFS can play. He's arguably better (certainly defensively ) than Cam Johnson and certainly at a better salary.

Certainly interesting to ponder. Maybe go bigger and send Mo and/or Goga and get Claxton..

ORL sends Cole Anthony, Mo Wagner, Goga Bitadze, ORL 25 frp (lottery protected, then top 8, then 2srps) and DEN 25 frp
BRK sends DFS, Nic Claxton
(eligible Jan 15, 2025...enough time to integrate and contend)

*sorry about Mo, but if we add Claxton, he's not playing anyway. Mo got a great deal for his talent level and he'll have an opportunity to up his present and future value with PT in BRK. Goga basically the same story. A Claxton/WCJ platoon at C is an absolute monster, considering how nasty our defense is WITHOUT a rim-protector already. WCJ tends to miss time, but he's a very good, versatile big who can actually play quality minutes at PF too - especially next to Claxton or Isaac. DFS just adds to the awful nights one looks forward to when playing ORL. Schroeder is certainly interesting and could somehow be added but he's not the most lovable locker room guy and I don't want him changing that dynamic, especially with AB's emergence...we'd have until January to eval that anyway). Claxton doesn't shoot from any range, but rotations could certainly be staggered to accomodate him and his elite defense.
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Re: Official 2024-2024 Magic Trade Ideas Thread 

Post#71 » by basketballRob » Mon Oct 28, 2024 5:26 pm

eyriq wrote:
djguevara114 wrote:The answer IMO would be to trade Anthony, Harris, and Houstan and 2-3 2nd Round Picks for DFS and Schroeder.

WCJ / Mo / Goga
Banchero / Isaac / DFS
Franz / DFS / TDS
Suggs / KCP / Howard
Black / Schroeder / Joseph
I love this
I wouldn't trade Harris, he's the backup 2. I'm not sold on Schroeder.

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Re: Official 2024-2024 Magic Trade Ideas Thread 

Post#72 » by tiderulz » Mon Oct 28, 2024 7:47 pm

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basketballRob wrote:
RichCollab wrote:
Cole is not an asset so other teams aren’t going to take him unless we add a sweetener.
We could add TDS.

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Cam Johnson is making 23 million per. Not sure we can add that much for a backup.

To make the money work.
Harris
TDS
Cole

That would result in:

Suggs / Black / Corey
KCP / Jett / Open
Franz / Cam Johnson / Caleb
Paolo / JI / Open
WCJ / Moe / Goga

why cant TDS be the backup PF? they are both the same size. I think thats why they drafted a senior, so he would be more ready to play
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Re: Official 2024-2024 Magic Trade Ideas Thread 

Post#73 » by RichCollab » Mon Oct 28, 2024 8:04 pm

tiderulz wrote:
RichCollab wrote:
basketballRob wrote:We could add TDS.

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Cam Johnson is making 23 million per. Not sure we can add that much for a backup.

To make the money work.
Harris
TDS
Cole

That would result in:

Suggs / Black / Corey
KCP / Jett / Open
Franz / Cam Johnson / Caleb
Paolo / JI / Open
WCJ / Moe / Goga

why cant TDS be the backup PF? they are both the same size. I think thats why they drafted a senior, so he would be more ready to play



TDS doesn’t seem strong enough to guard PFs yet.
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Re: Official 2024-2024 Magic Trade Ideas Thread 

Post#74 » by tiderulz » Mon Oct 28, 2024 9:09 pm

RichCollab wrote:
tiderulz wrote:
RichCollab wrote:
Cam Johnson is making 23 million per. Not sure we can add that much for a backup.

To make the money work.
Harris
TDS
Cole

That would result in:

Suggs / Black / Corey
KCP / Jett / Open
Franz / Cam Johnson / Caleb
Paolo / JI / Open
WCJ / Moe / Goga

why cant TDS be the backup PF? they are both the same size. I think thats why they drafted a senior, so he would be more ready to play



TDS doesn’t seem strong enough to guard PFs yet.

but Cam Johnson can, who TDS outweighs
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Re: Official 2024-2024 Magic Trade Ideas Thread 

Post#75 » by drsd » Mon Oct 28, 2024 10:20 pm

RichCollab wrote:
CarraT wrote:We need a quality combo F backup. Cam Johnson or Dorian Finney-Smith for Cole plus filler would be great.


Cole is not an asset so other teams aren’t going to take him unless we add a sweetener.


The Clippers would take "anything" for P.J. Tucker.
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Re: Official 2024-2024 Magic Trade Ideas Thread 

Post#76 » by RichCollab » Mon Oct 28, 2024 10:22 pm

tiderulz wrote:
RichCollab wrote:
tiderulz wrote:why cant TDS be the backup PF? they are both the same size. I think thats why they drafted a senior, so he would be more ready to play



TDS doesn’t seem strong enough to guard PFs yet.

but Cam Johnson can, who TDS outweighs


Weight and strength are two completely different things.
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Re: Official 2024-2024 Magic Trade Ideas Thread 

Post#77 » by RichCollab » Tue Oct 29, 2024 2:41 am

We are desperate for Cole’s offense in the second unit but it’s not there.
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Re: Official 2024-2024 Magic Trade Ideas Thread 

Post#78 » by Knightro » Tue Oct 29, 2024 2:58 am

My only concern with trading Cole is that he seems beloved by his teammates and this franchise is so big on chemistry and family and all that.

On the court, he's the odd man out by a wide margin.
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Post#79 » by thelead » Tue Oct 29, 2024 3:21 am

Cole, Houstan, and a pick for Sexton.
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Re: Official 2024-2024 Magic Trade Ideas Thread 

Post#80 » by Knightro » Tue Oct 29, 2024 3:45 am

thelead wrote:Cole, Houstan, and a pick for Sexton.


How good of a pick are we talking here?

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