Moritz Wagner Out for the Season with a Torn ACL in his Left Knee

[eyriq]

Moe isn't going to get special treatment. That would be toxic and counter productive. Any decisions will be based on putting the team in the best position to achieve their goals.

Isaac got special treatment. Mo has at least earned his.

It’s also bad business to just dump guys. Players and agents notice that behavior.

I don't think Isaac got special treatment. I think we made a bet on a lottery talent getting healthy and providing us value.

Someone already mentioned the contract negotiations from the documentary, he barely got his minimum expectations and we opted for a 1&1, while extending WCJ and JI and giving Goga a multi-year deal. A clear signal about which bigs were part of the long-term build.

[DiplomaticMagic]

You know who wouldve been great to have on this roster right now.......Jay Huff

He was not eligible for a 2 way. We had to sign him outright.

Huh? He originally signed a two way deal with Grizzlies, which he way overperformed and got a standard contract.

[byeganyo]

Moe isn't going anywhere, you don't trade an injured player that means so much this team and you don't trade Franz s brother, this is bad business

Don't be dumb

Based on what exactly?

He is not playing any basketball till the end of the season and he is getting his money no matter what.

So even if he is traded to lets say Toronto - will he be forced to actually be in Toronto, especailly if he is expiring.

He is getting treatment/recovery somewhere. Should we force him to sit in the stands as some kind of 10m dollar mascot?

Trade him and then sign him again in the summer IF he wants to be here. He changed 3 teams in 3 years before coming to Orlando. Its not like he has been here only.

[basketballRob]

Moe isn't going to get special treatment. That would be toxic and counter productive. Any decisions will be based on putting the team in the best position to achieve their goals.

Isaac got special treatment. Mo has at least earned his.

It’s also bad business to just dump guys. Players and agents notice that behavior.

I don't think Isaac got special treatment. I think we made a bet on a lottery talent getting healthy and providing us value.

Someone already mentioned the contract negotiations from the documentary, he barely got his minimum expectations and we opted for a 1&1, while extending WCJ and JI and giving Goga a multi-year deal. A clear signal about which bigs were part of the long-term build.

Isaac's injury also coincided with us tanking. If we were trying to contend, it's a different equation.

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[Ducklett]

Any more of dem giant Georgians we can sign?

[Bergmaniac]

Terrible news, I wish him a full recovery.

Anyway, Suggs and Franz's new big contracts begin from next summer, if we take back salary in a trade where Mo is involved, won't we be well over the cap and thus unable to sign him as a free agent next summer? Plus, if the Nets or another tanking team get him in a trade, they could keep him and exercise the option or negotiate a restructure of the contract, they can afford to think long term .

I doubt we will trade him anyway, not the way the team operates.

[basketballRob]

Any more of dem giant Georgians we can sign?

Dwight Howard is from Georgia.

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[basketballRob]

Terrible news, I wish him a full recovery.

Anyway, Suggs and Franz's new big contracts begin from next summer, if we take back salary in a trade where Mo is involved, won't we be well over the cap and thus unable to sign him as a free agent next summer? Plus, if the Nets or another tanking team get him in a trade, they could keep him and exercise the option or negotiate a restructure of the contract, they can afford to think long term .

I doubt we will trade him anyway, not the way the team operates.

We could draft a couple of centers and not pick up the team option.

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[RookieStar]

Any more of dem giant Georgians we can sign?

How about another German for old times sake?

[GameOver25]

I don't see us getting rid of him, unless both sides are in the know and work out something together.

[RookieStar]

Any more of dem giant Georgians we can sign?

Dwight Howard is from Georgia.

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Yup... a clear fellow countryman of former Magic great Zaza Pachulia and all-time bust Nik Tsch-somwthing.

[ORLMagicGirl15]

You know who wouldve been great to have on this roster right now.......Jay Huff

He was not eligible for a 2 way. We had to sign him outright.

Huh? He originally signed a two way deal with Grizzlies, which he way overperformed and got a standard contract.

You are right, misunderstood.

[ORLMagicGirl15]

Moe isn't going anywhere, you don't trade an injured player that means so much this team and you don't trade Franz s brother, this is bad business

Don't be dumb

Based on what exactly?

He is not playing any basketball till the end of the season and he is getting his money no matter what.

So even if he is traded to lets say Toronto - will he be forced to actually be in Toronto, especailly if he is expiring.

He is getting treatment/recovery somewhere. Should we force him to sit in the stands as some kind of 10m dollar mascot?

Trade him and then sign him again in the summer IF he wants to be here. He changed 3 teams in 3 years before coming to Orlando. Its not like he has been here only.

He has been here for 5 seasons. He was traded from the Lakers to Washington after his rookie year in 2019 (2020 season was a weird season), was traded during the trade deadline in March 2021 to Boston and then waived in April 2021 and we signed him for the rest of the year in 2021. He has been here ever since, this is truly the only team he knows.

[Knightro]

It wouldn't be bad business to trade Moe. It would just be business.

They wouldn't blindside him or Franz with it certainly.

[three3d]

Danny Wolf 7 foot center for Michigan with point center skills, they call him the Jewish Jokic the Mo injury now makes this a more serious option for FO

[byeganyo]

Moe isn't going anywhere, you don't trade an injured player that means so much this team and you don't trade Franz s brother, this is bad business

Don't be dumb

Based on what exactly?

He is not playing any basketball till the end of the season and he is getting his money no matter what.

So even if he is traded to lets say Toronto - will he be forced to actually be in Toronto, especailly if he is expiring.

He is getting treatment/recovery somewhere. Should we force him to sit in the stands as some kind of 10m dollar mascot?

Trade him and then sign him again in the summer IF he wants to be here. He changed 3 teams in 3 years before coming to Orlando. Its not like he has been here only.

He has been here for 5 seasons. He was traded from the Lakers to Washington after his rookie year in 2019 (2020 season was a weird season), was traded during the trade deadline in March 2021 to Boston and then waived in April 2021 and we signed him for the rest of the year in 2021. He has been here ever since, this is truly the only team he knows.

You make it sound like he is some orphaned kid. He is 27 and seems bright enough, if he is traded, he'll get it.
If something is hurting him, it's the fact that he is injured in the year he is playing his best basketball, that's bad both professionally and financially for him.

[ORLMagicGirl15]

Based on what exactly?

He is not playing any basketball till the end of the season and he is getting his money no matter what.

So even if he is traded to lets say Toronto - will he be forced to actually be in Toronto, especailly if he is expiring.

He is getting treatment/recovery somewhere. Should we force him to sit in the stands as some kind of 10m dollar mascot?

Trade him and then sign him again in the summer IF he wants to be here. He changed 3 teams in 3 years before coming to Orlando. Its not like he has been here only.

He has been here for 5 seasons. He was traded from the Lakers to Washington after his rookie year in 2019 (2020 season was a weird season), was traded during the trade deadline in March 2021 to Boston and then waived in April 2021 and we signed him for the rest of the year in 2021. He has been here ever since, this is truly the only team he knows.

You make it sound like he is some orphaned kid. He is 27 and seems bright enough, if he is traded, he'll get it.
If something is hurting him, it's the fact that he is injured in the year he is playing his best basketball, that's bad both professionally and financially for him.

You make it sound like there isn’t a human being behind that trade request. He got injured 1 day ago and all of a sudden he is worthless to the team? He has played his best basketball and that doesn’t even give us a chance to allow him to rehab? We are not winning anything, what is the harm of letting him stay and rehab for the remainder of the season?

[RookieStar]

Danny Wolf 7 foot center for Michigan with point center skills, they call him the Jewish Jokic the Mo injury now makes this a more serious option for FO

White ,MICH and moves like Franz....

We already have thr Bronze Wagner, we need the Jewish Wagner as well? Lol lets get a real BIG.

[byeganyo]

He has been here for 5 seasons. He was traded from the Lakers to Washington after his rookie year in 2019 (2020 season was a weird season), was traded during the trade deadline in March 2021 to Boston and then waived in April 2021 and we signed him for the rest of the year in 2021. He has been here ever since, this is truly the only team he knows.

You make it sound like he is some orphaned kid. He is 27 and seems bright enough, if he is traded, he'll get it.
If something is hurting him, it's the fact that he is injured in the year he is playing his best basketball, that's bad both professionally and financially for him.

You make it sound like there isn’t a human being behind that trade request. He got injured 1 day ago and all of a sudden he is worthless to the team? He has played his best basketball and that doesn’t even give us a chance to allow him to rehab? We are not winning anything, what is the harm of letting him stay and rehab for the remainder of the season?

Because he will rehab anyway? Traded or not. And he will get his 11 m - traded or not. Trading him and then getting him back can easily work.
He is "worthless" in the sense he can not play basketball right now - no one is advocating banish his name or something.
Imagine you there is a bus driver, they are injured in a work-related accident, horrible i know, but will anyone ask for the line to stop working till the driver comes back? or maybe even allow them to drive while rehabing and not being able to walk?

[ORLMagicGirl15]

You make it sound like he is some orphaned kid. He is 27 and seems bright enough, if he is traded, he'll get it.
If something is hurting him, it's the fact that he is injured in the year he is playing his best basketball, that's bad both professionally and financially for him.

You make it sound like there isn’t a human being behind that trade request. He got injured 1 day ago and all of a sudden he is worthless to the team? He has played his best basketball and that doesn’t even give us a chance to allow him to rehab? We are not winning anything, what is the harm of letting him stay and rehab for the remainder of the season?

Because he will rehab anyway? Traded or not. And he will get his 11 m - traded or not. Trading him and then getting him back can easily work.
He is "worthless" in the sense he can not play basketball right now - no one is advocating banish his name or something.
Imagine you there is a bus driver, they are injured in a work-related accident, horrible i know, but will anyone ask for the line to stop working till the driver comes back? or maybe even allow them to drive while rehabing and not being able to walk?

Let me ask you something, if, God forbid, Paolo get injured and he is out for the remainder of this year and he won’t be able to play until 2026-2027 season, do you still sign him to another contract or do you let his next season play out and simply trade him at the trade deadline? I mean, we can let him go and when he has rehabbed we can simply resign him.

I know what you’ll say that Paolo is a little more important on this team. But the difference is, we would wait for Paolo to rehab and we’ll give him full access to the facilities and team doctors to continue his rehab. Nothing would be paid out of his pocket. But Mo? We can simply trade him and hope to get him back after rehab.

I don’t like your analogy. I understand another player is needed to take his place, and we have players who aren’t getting playing time that can fill in. But an injured bus driver would be able to get workers comp and the company would pay for his injuries and rehab even if another bus driver is needed to take his place. If we let Mo go then the rehab is on him and he got hurt on the job. I don’t care how much these players make, they should not have to pay to rehab a work injury.

My point is this, nobody should have to pay for rehab when it is on the job. Trading a player releases the responsibility of the corporation, it is not fair.