Official 2024-2025 Magic Trade ideas thread continued

[MasterGMer]

I think the Pacers are going to end up with Cam Johnson for either Mathurin or Jarace Walker.

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Good for them. Another clear example of a small market team surrounding their star player with good talent.

It wasn’t working out with Sabonis, they traded for Haliburton.

Haliburton was great sooner than they expected so they traded for Siakam to capitalize on the momentum and subsequently make the ECF.

They’re playing good as of late and they realize the East is wide open so they trade for yet another impact player by trading some of their of young players that may or may not be as good as current Cam Johnson.

Example after example of GM’s actually working towards putting together a contending team, not just wanting to get by.

Two sides of things:

a. Our Front Office is very conservative in making moves.

b. But Magic is in a much better situation in contention than Indiana.

Do we need to make a move? idk. But our young core are still young. Don't get me wrong, I want our FO to be more active in improving the team than it is. We could be much better than it is right now. But I think the timing of our rebuild is not now, or even this season. So why giving up assets which could turn out to be massive down the years when Paolo and Franz are ready?

We still have to work thru the Cap. Cause the best cap management will help you win big. I want another star. But I just do not think the timing is now.

[Redick07]

What do I need to give up to get Lavine? I think I’m sold.

Isaac, Cole, Harris, CoJo, Houstan for Lavine and 4 FRPs. I am ok with that!

[Skybox]

Magic fans would've wanted Haliburton traded

6 games ago Magic fans wouldve wanted to tear it all down and waive theWhite Flagg

6 games from now we might again

[Blue_and_Whte]

I think the Pacers are going to end up with Cam Johnson for either Mathurin or Jarace Walker.

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Good for them. Another clear example of a small market team surrounding their star player with good talent.

It wasn’t working out with Sabonis, they traded for Haliburton.

Haliburton was great sooner than they expected so they traded for Siakam to capitalize on the momentum and subsequently make the ECF.

They’re playing good as of late and they realize the East is wide open so they trade for yet another impact player by trading some of their of young players that may or may not be as good as current Cam Johnson.

Example after example of GM’s actually working towards putting together a contending team, not just wanting to get by.

Two sides of things:

a. Our Front Office is very conservative in making moves.

b. But Magic is in a much better situation in contention than Indiana.

Do we need to make a move? idk. But our young core are still young. Don't get me wrong, I want our FO to be more active in improving the team than it is. We could be much better than it is right now. But I think the timing of our rebuild is not now, or even this season. So why giving up assets which could turn out to be massive down the years when Paolo and Franz are ready?

We still have to work thru the Cap. Cause the best cap management will help you win big. I want another star. But I just do not think the timing is now.

Yes. We have one of the worst offenses in the league. There is absolutely a need to improve this roster.

[eyriq]

Yes. We have one of the worst offenses in the league. There is absolutely a need to improve this roster.

Hard to evaluate a roster missing its best players. Probably just need to get healthy.

[three3d]

Yes. We have one of the worst offenses in the league. There is absolutely a need to improve this roster.

Hard to evaluate a roster missing its best players. Probably just need to get healthy.

We evaluated it last year it’s the same thing with the addition of KCP and the decline of JI and the season ending injury to Mo. It’s not like what’s missing isn’t obvious, it’s just some small detail we can’t quite put our finger on. It’s so clear we need shooting and a secondary playmaker. When your problems are so visible that they are slapping you in the face every single game yet nothing js done about it that’s malpractice.

[RichCollab]

Yes. We have one of the worst offenses in the league. There is absolutely a need to improve this roster.

Hard to evaluate a roster missing its best players. Probably just need to get healthy.

We evaluated it last year it’s the same thing with the addition of KCP and the decline of JI and the season ending injury to Mo. It’s not like what’s missing isn’t obvious, it’s just some small detail we can’t quite put our finger on. It’s so clear we need shooting and a secondary playmaker. When your problems are so visible that they are slapping you in the face every single game yet nothing js done about it that’s malpractice.

TOs and 2nd chance points are just as important if not more than shooting. Shooting is a hard variable to control so I’m onboard with the current Mos/FO philosophy of focus on what you can do every game.

Paolo, Franz, and Suggs all have taken offensive leaps. TDS is going to improve the bench. AB improvement. We aren’t the same team as last year.

Adding a 3 and D player like KCP will make a difference.

Goga is now our starter. We aren’t making any moves to change the starting lineup this year. AB, TDS, WCJ, and JI are going to suck up bench minutes.

I do agree upgrading a bench guard to include shooting and secondary play making is a target area but how big of an overall difference is it really going to make?

Getting everyone on the court is still necessary to do more assessments.

[three3d]

Simons with another nice stat line last night, 28 points and 7-14 from the three point line. Scoot might be more available than Simons but I’d prefer Simons. A first round pick thrown in package for Simons should not be a deal breaker. The draft is a lottery ticket and I’d rather hedge that bet on a proven player like Anfernee Simons. It can’t be argued either as a starter or bench player he doesn’t provide EXACTLY what we need.

[RichCollab]

Simons with another nice stat line last night, 28 points and 7-14 from the three point line. Scoot might be more available than Simons but I’d prefer Simons. A first round pick thrown in package for Simons should not be a deal breaker. The draft is a lottery ticket and I’d rather hedge that bet on a proven player like Anfernee Simons. It can’t be argued either as a starter or bench player he doesn’t provide EXACTLY what we need.

I watched last nights game. He can score as an individual and has some play making. He is a great shooter when given the space for sure. Fine for a boost of the bench but he lacks every where else.

Im not opposed but seems limited to a microwave scorer role which again would be nice to have.

[three3d]

Simons with another nice stat line last night, 28 points and 7-14 from the three point line. Scoot might be more available than Simons but I’d prefer Simons. A first round pick thrown in package for Simons should not be a deal breaker. The draft is a lottery ticket and I’d rather hedge that bet on a proven player like Anfernee Simons. It can’t be argued either as a starter or bench player he doesn’t provide EXACTLY what we need.

I watched last nights game. He can score as an individual and has some play making. He is a great shooter when given the space for sure. Fine for a boost of the bench but he lacks every where else.

Im not opposed but seems limited to a microwave scorer role which again would be nice to have.

https://youtu.be/PklKvZl8NaU?si=D9aYNyiT5S_Z4r02

You watched the game last night so you seen these shots but still I have to say, Simons doesn’t just have normal three point range he’s got DEEP DEEP three point range. As a defensive you’ve got to respect that range and when you’re drawing a defender 30 feet from the basket it’s going to creat a WHOLE NEW WORLD for Paolo and Franz on the inside. It’s not just his range though, he’s got play making ability. He’s never played with a Paolo type player, fall asleep on defense and Paolo will pick you apart and find the open man and he loves to pass the ball.

[RichCollab]

Simons with another nice stat line last night, 28 points and 7-14 from the three point line. Scoot might be more available than Simons but I’d prefer Simons. A first round pick thrown in package for Simons should not be a deal breaker. The draft is a lottery ticket and I’d rather hedge that bet on a proven player like Anfernee Simons. It can’t be argued either as a starter or bench player he doesn’t provide EXACTLY what we need.

I watched last nights game. He can score as an individual and has some play making. He is a great shooter when given the space for sure. Fine for a boost of the bench but he lacks every where else.

Im not opposed but seems limited to a microwave scorer role which again would be nice to have.

https://youtu.be/PklKvZl8NaU?si=D9aYNyiT5S_Z4r02

You watched the game last night so you seen these shots but still I have to say, Simons doesn’t just have normal three point range he’s got DEEP DEEP three point range. As a defensive you’ve got to respect that range and when you’re drawing a defender 30 feet from the basket it’s going to creat a WHOLE NEW WORLD for Paolo and Franz on the inside. It’s not just his range though, he’s got play making ability. He’s never played with a Paolo type player, fall asleep on defense and Paolo will pick you apart and find the open man and he loves to pass the ball.

I don’t see him playing with the starters all that much. Defense is still key to being a primary player.

[rcklsscognition]

Our offense is anemic and I think there is an argument to be made that playing so hard on defense to overcome the lack of offense is possibly causing injuries and a self fulfilling prophecy of sorts. Playing hard on defense leads us to being too tired to play good offense which leads to needing harder defense which makes the offense worse yet.

We have the foundation of an elite defense. We need to bring in talent now. You cannot take time for granted in this league. Each game we are closer to losing these players. There is no one on the team we need more time to evaluate. We need a scoring guard that is willing to put in enough effort on defense not to screw the entire system up but is talented enough to get their own shot.

We don’t need a PG. Everyone on the team can bring the ball up including Goga.

We need a scoring guard now.

[three3d]

I watched last nights game. He can score as an individual and has some play making. He is a great shooter when given the space for sure. Fine for a boost of the bench but he lacks every where else.

Im not opposed but seems limited to a microwave scorer role which again would be nice to have.

https://youtu.be/PklKvZl8NaU?si=D9aYNyiT5S_Z4r02

You watched the game last night so you seen these shots but still I have to say, Simons doesn’t just have normal three point range he’s got DEEP DEEP three point range. As a defensive you’ve got to respect that range and when you’re drawing a defender 30 feet from the basket it’s going to creat a WHOLE NEW WORLD for Paolo and Franz on the inside. It’s not just his range though, he’s got play making ability. He’s never played with a Paolo type player, fall asleep on defense and Paolo will pick you apart and find the open man and he loves to pass the ball.

I don’t see him playing with the starters all that much. Defense is still key to being a primary player.

We’re the #2 rated defense and the #27th rated offense. Realize just how scary this my team is with some firepower to go along with Paolo and Franz. Simons for the most part goes unnoticed playing in Portable, big time zone difference so hardly ever see him play live. He puts up numbers in a bad team, but he’s still putting up numbers as a main focal point. Defense is a mind set and effort, offense is a skill. I think if he was doing what he is now for Orlando off the bench you’d be talking about a potential Sith Man Of The Year award candidate.

[pepe1991]

Our offense is anemic and I think there is an argument to be made that playing so hard on defense to overcome the lack of offense is possibly causing injuries and a self fulfilling prophecy of sorts. Playing hard on defense leads us to being too tired to play good offense which leads to needing harder defense which makes the offense worse yet.

We have the foundation of an elite defense. We need to bring in talent now. You cannot take time for granted in this league. Each game we are closer to losing these players. There is no one on the team we need more time to evaluate. We need a scoring guard that is willing to put in enough effort on defense not to screw the entire system up but is talented enough to get their own shot.

We don’t need a PG. Everyone on the team can bring the ball up including Goga.

We need a scoring guard now.

My preference would be combo guard. Somebody who can score on it's own but also run some offense,especially with second unit.

[three3d]

There are players currently on the roster that have no business being here still. Gary Harris must have hamstrings made of glass, guy is constantly in street cloths not playing. There are other guys that should not be here but Harris is the clear cut easiest target. Not making a move is absurd and so lazy with how clear and tnis what’s needed. Players that are great on defense AND offense aren’t easy to come by and when they become available you’ll probably not be able to afford them without tearing your team apart. We are so good defensively as a team it makes it easy to focus on a single player that can carry you on offense.

[three3d]

Our offense is anemic and I think there is an argument to be made that playing so hard on defense to overcome the lack of offense is possibly causing injuries and a self fulfilling prophecy of sorts. Playing hard on defense leads us to being too tired to play good offense which leads to needing harder defense which makes the offense worse yet.

We have the foundation of an elite defense. We need to bring in talent now. You cannot take time for granted in this league. Each game we are closer to losing these players. There is no one on the team we need more time to evaluate. We need a scoring guard that is willing to put in enough effort on defense not to screw the entire system up but is talented enough to get their own shot.

We don’t need a PG. Everyone on the team can bring the ball up including Goga.

We need a scoring guard now.

My preference would be combo guard. Somebody who can score on it's own but also run some offense,especially with second unit.

And there’s a 25 year old from the Orlando area out there named after Penny Hardaway who fits that description. He’s not a complete package, but you have the ingredients there and motivation possible to be something he hasn’t been or maybe hasn’t been asked or coached to do. We have the Chef in Coach Mosley who’s excellent in player development and relations to bring it out if him if it’s there. Worst case scenario you get a 20+ point per night player that’s just strictly your Cole Anthony replacement. Thats a win on its own.

[rcklsscognition]

I forgot about Simons because I’ve been wanting him for so long. He would be a huge addition.

[Skybox]

Simons with another nice stat line last night, 28 points and 7-14 from the three point line. Scoot might be more available than Simons but I’d prefer Simons. A first round pick thrown in package for Simons should not be a deal breaker. The draft is a lottery ticket and I’d rather hedge that bet on a proven player like Anfernee Simons. It can’t be argued either as a starter or bench player he doesn’t provide EXACTLY what we need.

I watched last nights game. He can score as an individual and has some play making. He is a great shooter when given the space for sure. Fine for a boost of the bench but he lacks every where else.

Im not opposed but seems limited to a microwave scorer role which again would be nice to have.

That’s the role…suits him, suits us.

He’s young enough and universally panned enough to accept that more limited role…I just don’t think that he or the NBA community will be outraged by the “demotion”. He’ll have a real shot at 6MOY next year- if he’s on a strong playoff team like ORL.

We’re still playing with house money from AG trade. DEN pick is extra this summer (or ours)…especially true if we unload a guaranteed salary, like Cole’s, at the same time.

[three3d]

Simons with another nice stat line last night, 28 points and 7-14 from the three point line. Scoot might be more available than Simons but I’d prefer Simons. A first round pick thrown in package for Simons should not be a deal breaker. The draft is a lottery ticket and I’d rather hedge that bet on a proven player like Anfernee Simons. It can’t be argued either as a starter or bench player he doesn’t provide EXACTLY what we need.

I watched last nights game. He can score as an individual and has some play making. He is a great shooter when given the space for sure. Fine for a boost of the bench but he lacks every where else.

Im not opposed but seems limited to a microwave scorer role which again would be nice to have.

That’s the role…suits him, suits us.

He’s young enough and universally panned enough to accept that more limited role…I just don’t think that he or the NBA community will be outraged by the “demotion”. He’ll have a real shot at 6MOY next year- if he’s on a strong playoff team like ORL.

We’re still playing with house money from AG trade. DEN pick is extra this summer (or ours)…especially true if we unload a guaranteed salary, like Cole’s, at the same time.

Because he want be paying State Income Tax Simons would actually be getting a raise. Not sure how much money he’s saving or making extra because of that but possibly it really helps us in 2 years when he’s up for a new contract.

[Skybox]

There are players currently on the roster that have no business being here still. Gary Harris must have hamstrings made of glass, guy is constantly in street cloths not playing. There are other guys that should not be here but Harris is the clear cut easiest target. Not making a move is absurd and so lazy with how clear and tnis what’s needed. Players that are great on defense AND offense aren’t easy to come by and when they become available you’ll probably not be able to afford them without tearing your team apart. We are so good defensively as a team it makes it easy to focus on a single player that can carry you on offense.

Seriously, I’m really tired of Harris bouncing around, cracking up, and looking spry in street clothes. He’s a little too content, imo, to NOT be contributing when his brothers could use it. I’m not suggesting he’s not hurt…but he’s either too fragile or too quick to tap out - either way, it’s useless to the team. I’m hesitant to trade him vs guys like Cole w/ guaranteed money…but I’m starting to think trade or even buyout Harris. He can’t be here next year when you have T Queen (or 100 more prospects like him) grateful to be on the end of the bench and ready to run through a wall to get 5 mpg for $1m per year. Lock that dude up for 2+1 and watch him give everything every time he suits up.