FIRE WELTMAN

[eyriq]

So what’s the big picture, if 8 years isn’t enough to judge?

The big picture is that we are in year 4 of the rebuild, ahead of schedule, and have successfully tanked for 2 franchise players

Year 0: blow-up, tank for Franz and Suggs
Year 1: tank for Paolo. Franz and Suggs are rookies
Year 2: Paolo ROY, +12 wins
Year 3: Paolo all-star, +13 wins, 5th seed
Year 4: obliques, Franz ascendence

We've been rebuilding since Dwight left, your four year claim is just objectively false. When has this team been a contender, or anywhere close to it, in the post Dwight era? It simply hasn't, not once.

The roster is constructed poorly, the offense is consistently bad, and outside of a couple of players the drafting has been poor as well. It's like some of you don't understand what purpose a GM serves, you let him off the hook for aspects of the franchise he's 100 percent responsible for. To say that we should retain him is to also say it's perfectly acceptable to have poor (and never improving) offense, and that roster construction is entirely meaningless. I'm not sure you realize that's what you're saying.

The guy needs to go, nothing could be more clear.

The first rebuild started after Dwight left and never got off the ground. Hennigan botched it up badly and failed to acquire a franchise player. Weltman came in, tried some re-tooling moves, and ultimately blew up the team that Hennigan built. That was the end of that build. It didn't culminate in anything because it sucked. Now we're in a new rebuild.

There's a cycle to these things.
1. Tank and asset accumulation
2. Development and identity formation
3. Playoff contention
4. Re-tooling
5. Championship contention
6. Blowing it up and resetting

Not every build passes through these phases. Some builds never get off the ground. Hennigan's build barely sniffed playoff contention and re-tooling failed because the core was terrible. But it did end when the team was blown-up. We are in a new build on a new timeline.

[fendilim]

Even reddit fans turning on him.

That Brian Windhorst segment is brutal. How da f**** can you run nba team if you don't even ingage into conversation with others? You think somebody called Pelinka and asked to dump Luka? That MFer was filmed at Dallas coffe shop talking with Dallas Nico Harrison.

Where was Weltman last ? Golf court?

Who da hell gave all the power to a guy who's only job was taking care of Raptors bench in first place? He pushed Hammond to retire and now we have "GM" that most people forgot even exsited and who is doing his first nba job as executive.

It's borderline crazy situation.
41% win rate since he took over 7 years ago.

Get him off before off season, i don't want this tool to resign Corey Joseph " on friendly" 4 years $60M contract because we are "family" .

To be fair, in the same podcast, they did say that we are in the same scenario (not active in trade deadline) OKC was in LAST YEAR.

[Skybox]

Wow. I'm not really pro-Weltman at all (I'd replace him IMO), but this board has gone full meltdown mode lol. The season was ruined by massive injuries to 4 core players - and now their spirit is broken. I'd almost shut Paolo down the rest of the year and have him focus on coming back ready to go in 2025-26. Let Franz cook the rest of the year.

It's just a select few of the loud posters. You've got the camp that think we are contenders and are underperforming our potential. You've got the camp the prefer trades and free agency for player acquisition over the draft and player development. You've got the camp prefer offense to defense and don't like our style. You've got the camp that are just tired of losing and don't really care about the current state or the nuance of team development and just want results.

Put them all together and you get a loud minority that are missing the big picture.

This is bang on IMO. We really aren't giving the injury grenade lobbed at the team this season enough credit for the impact it has had.

That said, I do sympathise with the frustration, I want to be winning like we were early this season too (or last season for that matter).

Don't know how you can point to "The Draft" as the big fix at this point in our ascendance...ORL has more o
f its own draftees than anyone in the league...that was a recent "Is This Anything" from David Steele. You draft BPA, which isn't unwise at the time, but then you can't be surprised that these individuals don't magically fit as a team, so you move some for better fitting ones.

Also don't think it's reasonable to suggest that people who want to see a progressive move have any illusions about immediate contention...It's not skipping steps (more bumper sticker BS) - it's taking steps.

[JF5]

Nah, they've done enough with drafting a Superstar core to warrant them 2 more years of work. I find it weird that nobody in this thread will give them grace given what we have.

I think this thread everyone is too angsty to let these things playout.

How generous of you to give them 2 more years, when in 2027 Paolo's max hits and they are effectively out of options and drafting with super late picks.

You know the job consists of more than winning the lottery and drafting in the top 10 right?

No trades for 4 years and now faced with direct evidence they aren't proactive in the league to improve the team?
Yeah fans.. your expectations are too high. Too angsty.

Are you just saying **** at this point to be contrarian?

They drafted Paolo and Franz... 2 guys who are likely to be top 5-10 players in the league within a few years. This on top of turning the team around to a 47 win team the previous season.

The idea you fire GMs who drafted like they did within the last 3-4 years is laughable.

Also, I find this bizarre. The team won 47 games last year with with their core 3 guys being all under 22 years old at the time. And the other key role players all being under 27-28 years old.

When you have success like that with the players you have. you typically add one or two vets who won't hurt the continuity of the team and the growth of your young core. You want to see if your core gets better and outplay their contracts so you won't have to spend a bunch of money or lose a bunch of assets just going after one or two players. And you can just allocate those assets/money to other elite/good complimentay role players.

What I'm saying is trade and make moves with a purpose and make sense.

Especially in today's league you've seen teams like the Sixers add Paul George to a bloated contract. Now they don't have much depth and don't enough complimentary pieces to surround Maxey while Embiid is dealing with his knee issues for them to be competitive.

Samething with the the Suns who absolutely capped themselves by adding/trading for 2 Star players who played very similar to their homegrown star in Devin Booker. Now they have to blow it up to get assets back to try to rebuild in the next few years.

Those are cautionary tales as to how you needs to make the right move when needed. Like you said. Paolo's max contract is in 2 offseasons and I think Weltman given the last few reports and interviews knows it's time to make moves for complimentary veteran pieces.

[Bensational]

The team will be fine. There’s really only two roads ahead:

- they continue to struggle and regardless of playoff-play-in seeding they get a better draft pick as a result.

- they get healthy and turn things around and begin to resemble the team from last season or early this season.

Can’t control or ask for significant change until the season is over so may as well cheer for them to get it all back on track again.

[JF5]

I have given them grace already. Action is required now.

I mean given the length it took the Magic to become good again I understand. But the team is damn young (I believe 2nd or 3rd youngest team in the league).

They just got good again last year and had setbacks this year due to their entire team being injured the whole year and not having the continuity/chemistry at all with their major players.

And honestly it was a blessing in disguise and a very successful season (to me) as Franz ended up ascending and being a 1b. option rather than the 2nd and even maybe 3rd option we all projected him to be. If this team had Banchero the whole season Franz would've been held back, and people would've complained that we needed a true 2nd option like Devin Booker or Tyrese Haliburton.

That analysis going back to my point of letting things playout and not forcing things in the moment is why you've got 2 guys who will eventually end up being top 10 players in the league one day (at minimum) on your squad and you'll be multiple titles in the rafters.

Seriously, Weltman got Paolo and Franz. 2 cornerstone Superstar franchise pieces in back to back drafts and people are saying he's not a good GM. It's absolutely laughable to me. GMs ever drafting like that is rare. You keep GMs like this.

Neither PB or Franz are superstars, they have a lot to prove before they reach that status. And getting the top pick is a reward for being terrible. Congratulations, he drafted a good player while being able to pick any player he wanted. That's not as commendable as you think it is. Franz was the much better pick, considering where he went in the draft, but outside of those two it has been nearly all swings and misses. Two good players, and Suggs who has no ability to stay healthy, does not excuse all of the misses. The reason this team has such terrible depth is directly related to how poor we've drafted. All of those blown picks are supposed to be, at worst, our current depth.

So I've learned in this thread that our GM isn't responsible for providing an offensively competent team, constructing a roster of players that compliment each other properly, or providing adequate depth in the event that one of your many players with an injury history winds up missing even more games. So I guess I can add that to the list, the GM is also not responsible for finding players that can stay healthy.

I'm not exactly sure what he's responsible for, it sure seems like "nothing" is the answer some of you have arrived at. Nice gig, get paid millions of dollars and have no responsibility or expectations of any kind.

GMs have to draft players... you can't just say it's "nothing" to me. Especially looking at the 2022 NBA draft threads on this forum. You remember how many of us thought we should've drafted Jabari Smith Jr? It was easily around 60-70 percent of the board including myself, lmao. You can easily go back and look at those threads and see how most of us were idiots.

Banchero was the 3rd pick/3rd Option with very little fanfare. I even remember when we drafted him a lot of us thought it was just a draft and trade to get Jabari and additional picks but that wasn't the case. So if we as a consensus decided to draft a player as GMs as fans that year we would've had Jabari Smith Jr... So you can't tell me Weltman doesn't get credit for that.

[basketballRob]

I’m weird when it comes of my view of Weltman, I agree that building thru the draft and patience is a good strategy, and to a degree that’s worked. The Magic have two superstars and a solid supporting class, and generally are on an upward trajectory.

Injuries can take a great deal of blame for where the Magic are. However…having been losing with Franz and Paolo back has re-exposed the team weaknesses that Weltman has refused to address for years. We need a point guard and we need a shooter/perimeter scorer. Outside of Suggs we don’t have a quality starter guard on this team.

Weltman has had 8 seasons. If I’m the ownership, if this collapse continues and we don’t pull thru to make the playoff ( not the play in) then Weltman and Anthony Parker need to be replaced.

Like 4 of those seasons were building the value of what they had. Vuc, Fournier, and AG. He said the first season he got here that none of the players had any value because they hadn't made the playoffs. At the time, we were just hoping to have a 20 ppg player one day. They developed Vuc into a 20 ppg player eventually.

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[tiderulz]

I disagree, I'm still confident in him. I think the angst against Weltman is delusional. It just shows an undisciplined and emotional approach to thinking about Weltman's performance. His decision to blow it up was the correct one. His decision to draft Paolo Franz and Suggs were the correct ones. His decision to hire Mosely was the correct one. His philosophy dictates his strategy and explains his organic approach to building the team. It's the same playbook that Presti uses and everyone loves Presti.

There's no point in accelerating the build when Paolo and Franz and Suggs are not a contending core. They are still developing.

Injuries have set back the growth in our win rate. The past few seasons though we've seen tremendous increases in wins season over season.

You can nitpick about his extensions, you can cry about his passivity, but all the opportunities he's missed or the decisions he's made that you disagree with are at the margins and don't impact the long-term trajectory of the team.

I don't even think his seat is mildly warm.

JOSH ROBBINS:
“It looks to me the team does not have enough shooting to be competitive. The team was 28th in 3-point shooting last season. It doesn’t seem the team added players with strong track records as shooters. Is shooting a concern?”

WELTMAN:
“We have a bunch of concerns, areas where we can improve on the court and off the court. But I would counter that (statement of yours). I can think of one shooter that we didn’t have last year: Terrence Ross (who was injured most of the season). I really think it’s hard to make broad statements about our team when we were just so banged-up last year.”

Buddy when this is a direct question AND answer from 2018 AND STILL IS A MAIN PROBLEM TODAY IN 2025 something is wrong .

He has a philosophy where you can teach shooting and solve the problem through player development. He's actually right you can it's a teachable skill. We're a young and developing team that's been primarily drafting for versatility and defensive upside and leaning on player development for improvement in shooting. That's the strategy for building this team and there's nothing wrong with it.

i dont disagree, but it isnt easy. thats why we see so many bad shooters all over the league and players out of the league.

[eyriq]

JOSH ROBBINS:
“It looks to me the team does not have enough shooting to be competitive. The team was 28th in 3-point shooting last season. It doesn’t seem the team added players with strong track records as shooters. Is shooting a concern?”

WELTMAN:
“We have a bunch of concerns, areas where we can improve on the court and off the court. But I would counter that (statement of yours). I can think of one shooter that we didn’t have last year: Terrence Ross (who was injured most of the season). I really think it’s hard to make broad statements about our team when we were just so banged-up last year.”

Buddy when this is a direct question AND answer from 2018 AND STILL IS A MAIN PROBLEM TODAY IN 2025 something is wrong .

He has a philosophy where you can teach shooting and solve the problem through player development. He's actually right you can it's a teachable skill. We're a young and developing team that's been primarily drafting for versatility and defensive upside and leaning on player development for improvement in shooting. That's the strategy for building this team and there's nothing wrong with it.

i dont disagree, but it isnt easy. thats why we see so many bad shooters all over the league and players out of the league.

Facts.

[tiderulz]

He has a philosophy where you can teach shooting and solve the problem through player development. He's actually right you can it's a teachable skill. We're a young and developing team that's been primarily drafting for versatility and defensive upside and leaning on player development for improvement in shooting. That's the strategy for building this team and there's nothing wrong with it.

i dont disagree, but it isnt easy. thats why we see so many bad shooters all over the league and players out of the league.

Facts.

ad you cant rely on that improvement

[byeganyo]

Even reddit fans turning on him.

That Brian Windhorst segment is brutal. How da f**** can you run nba team if you don't even ingage into conversation with others? You think somebody called Pelinka and asked to dump Luka? That MFer was filmed at Dallas coffe shop talking with Dallas Nico Harrison.

Where was Weltman last ? Golf court?

Who da hell gave all the power to a guy who's only job was taking care of Raptors bench in first place? He pushed Hammond to retire and now we have "GM" that most people forgot even exsited and who is doing his first nba job as executive.

It's borderline crazy situation.
41% win rate since he took over 7 years ago.

Get him off before off season, i don't want this tool to resign Corey Joseph " on friendly" 4 years $60M contract because we are "family" .

To be fair, in the same podcast, they did say that we are in the same scenario (not active in trade deadline) OKC was in LAST YEAR.

to be fair OKC last year were first in the west (and they made a trade), we are 9th in the east currently, apples and oranges...

[fendilim]

Even reddit fans turning on him.

That Brian Windhorst segment is brutal. How da f**** can you run nba team if you don't even ingage into conversation with others? You think somebody called Pelinka and asked to dump Luka? That MFer was filmed at Dallas coffe shop talking with Dallas Nico Harrison.

Where was Weltman last ? Golf court?

Who da hell gave all the power to a guy who's only job was taking care of Raptors bench in first place? He pushed Hammond to retire and now we have "GM" that most people forgot even exsited and who is doing his first nba job as executive.

It's borderline crazy situation.
41% win rate since he took over 7 years ago.

Get him off before off season, i don't want this tool to resign Corey Joseph " on friendly" 4 years $60M contract because we are "family" .

To be fair, in the same podcast, they did say that we are in the same scenario (not active in trade deadline) OKC was in LAST YEAR.

to be fair OKC last year were first in the west (and they made a trade), we are 9th in the east currently, apples and oranges...

like i said, by standing pat last year. Lol

[fendilim]

Y’all whine too much haha

Has there ever been a championship team that has star players the same age as Paolo and Franz? Even Kobe with the Lakers had Shaq at the peak of his career. Lol

New management will likely mean change in coach and, more often than not, another re-build. We exceeded expectations last year (thanks in part to injuries), its disappointing how the team is performing now (thanks also to injuries). If weltman doesnt do any change in the offseason, he definitely will be in the hot seat. But certainly wanting him gone now, after what happened last year, is certainly unrealistic. Wake up guys. Lol

[pepe1991]

Some of you guys would believe your wife didn't cheat on you, she just fell on naked neighbour and lost all her clothes in process.

April 26th, 2010.
That is last time Orlando Magic team passed first round of playoffs.
if your kid is younger than some 20 y.o. or you are younger than 20-22, you probably don't even remember it.

Weltman got Hennigan roster. He didn't invest anything in it, he didn't seek to get better, he just resigned existing guys on new deal, he didn't make any trades. He just sit pat for 3 years until Gordon, Fournier and Vuc told him they are done.

Evan flat out said to French media that he won't stay with Orlando, where Gordon said that he asked a trade in private, nothing happened, so he went in public.
SO even when guys ask to get to GTFO, Weltman was still too lazy to actually do his job until players leaked it to media.

Gordon said he made the request because of his "frustration" with the team on a number of issues. The Athletic reported Monday that Gordon asked the Magic for a trade in February.

- March 21st, 2021 - is when he said he wants to get out in public.

So FOR AT LEAST A MONTH Weltman knew Gordon wants out and did nothing.

So he just hoped Gordon will change his mind? Why he wasn't fired right there, at spot?


This pattern of having no guts nor know-how to make decisions goes all the way.
Mo Bamba was a bust. Even biggest homers could see no talent in second year. Well, not everybody. Weltman kept him for year 2, year 3, picked up his rather expensive rookie option for year 4, ofc never once thought about trading him. Instead he even picked up his qualifying offer for year 5 and payed that bum $11M.
Just to trade him for: drumroll: Cash considerations (from Los Angeles) and Nuggets second round pick.

Let's just think about it for a minute. Your lottery pick, former 6th overall pick from draft that gave 5 all stars, two MVP candidates, multiple elite upper level role players turned into:
money
nothing


107 offensive rating in 2025 on a team that isn't active tanker. It's actually impressive to build roster this incompetent.
110,3. That was Magic offensive rating. 15 years ago..



And last - this orgasms for "making right pick" ( for once? ).

2017 - has 6th overall pick : player drafted - Isaac.
Alternatives: Donovan Mitchell, Lauri, Adebayo, Allen
has 23rd pick " talent flattened out "-trades pick
-left on table : OG, Josh Hart, Derrick White, I Hart, Monte Morris, Kyle Kuzma

2018- has 6th overall pick- already said above

2019- 16th pick- Chuma Okeke.
Flat out only drafted guy because he agreed to not sign right away.
Alternatives: NAW, Goga, Clarke, Ty Jerome, Jordan Poole, Nic Claxston

2020- for start, we trade back to 76ers pick for that bum Fultz that he kept investing into.
That pick lands 21# and turns in Maxey ( all star)
He has 15th pick- Cole Anthony
Alternatives: Maxey, Prichard, Quickley ( pretty much same arhytpye just much better )

2021- Franz & Suggs- first time in 5 drafts he actually menages to draft player that does not have 15 players better than him ,taken after his pick.
But ofc, he has to screw up something, so he trades 33rd pick and guess names left on table:
Herb Jones, Miles McBride, Ayo.

2022- Paolo and 1# pick. Nobody but him made all those smokescreens about drafting Jabari. Poor guy was escorted around arena like clown in Weltman's desperate attempt to pull Ainge and draft down. He really thought he can play out Presti

2023 - lol just ... lol.
How to rationalize that same guy passed on LIvley. Twice.
How to rationalize drafting Jett Howard?
How to rationalize not trading 11th pick ?


And here you are talking about how smart it was to "don't make trades" because that's what 2023 title winner and 43-9 team did.

Building through draft does not mean sitting on hands until they go from $8M a year to $48 M a year so you can tell "see, no money". Building through draft means collecting assets that will be either: implemented on winning roster or flipped to players that fit new, winning roster.


I feel like i entered twilight zone on this tread. You should not make trade when team is hurt because "not enough time to evaluate" but if they are healthy you shouldn't make a trade to not hinder feelings? Gtfo

[GelbeWand09]

Even reddit fans turning on him.

That Brian Windhorst segment is brutal. How da f**** can you run nba team if you don't even ingage into conversation with others? You think somebody called Pelinka and asked to dump Luka? That MFer was filmed at Dallas coffe shop talking with Dallas Nico Harrison.

Where was Weltman last ? Golf court?

Who da hell gave all the power to a guy who's only job was taking care of Raptors bench in first place? He pushed Hammond to retire and now we have "GM" that most people forgot even exsited and who is doing his first nba job as executive.

It's borderline crazy situation.
41% win rate since he took over 7 years ago.

Get him off before off season, i don't want this tool to resign Corey Joseph " on friendly" 4 years $60M contract because we are "family" .

To be fair, in the same podcast, they did say that we are in the same scenario (not active in trade deadline) OKC was in LAST YEAR.

Same scenario like the 57 win OKC? Same scenario like the 57 win okc with open cap space next summer? Same scenario as the 57 win OKC who get a elite player like Chet back for free the next season? Same sneraio as the 57 win OKC with more picks than 70% of the leaque combined as future asset to get cheap players or to do any trade they want?

No, that's not the same scenario.

[pepe1991]

Even reddit fans turning on him.

That Brian Windhorst segment is brutal. How da f**** can you run nba team if you don't even ingage into conversation with others? You think somebody called Pelinka and asked to dump Luka? That MFer was filmed at Dallas coffe shop talking with Dallas Nico Harrison.

Where was Weltman last ? Golf court?

Who da hell gave all the power to a guy who's only job was taking care of Raptors bench in first place? He pushed Hammond to retire and now we have "GM" that most people forgot even exsited and who is doing his first nba job as executive.

It's borderline crazy situation.
41% win rate since he took over 7 years ago.

Get him off before off season, i don't want this tool to resign Corey Joseph " on friendly" 4 years $60M contract because we are "family" .

To be fair, in the same podcast, they did say that we are in the same scenario (not active in trade deadline) OKC was in LAST YEAR.

Same scenario like the 57 win OKC? Same scenario like the 57 win okc with open cap space next summer? Same scenario as the 57 win OKC who get a elite player like Chet back for free the next season? Same sneraio as the 57 win OKC with more picks than 70% of the leaque combined as future asset to get cheap players or to do any trade they want?

No, that's not the same scenario.

This is most epic part of all this.
OKC traded their former 6th overall pick for 30+ years old role player because it fitted their vision, they signed starter from other playoff team.
They won 57-58 games last year AND made moves after passing first round of playoffs and playing 7 games to eventual finalist.

Magic lost in first round to a team without starting C, backup PF who lost in very next round, signed one low usage 3 and D player because "championship pedigree" , ignored guy plays same position and role as Suggs, resigned two most injury prone players from 2017 draft and called a year.
Midway through next year team is falling apart and we learn our Front office does not engage in trade talks, and most of a league views them as awkward goofballs.

Also isn't it fitting how same people who bring injuries as excuse, but bring OKC as defending point in very next sentence tend to "forget" how OKC lost Chet Holmgren, their second best player for 40 games and didn't used that as excuse? Hmm... interesting

[I Rasharted]

Neither PB or Franz are superstars

This is the blinking red warning light that a lot of the "trust the long-term plan" guys don't seem to understand. I think it's been so long since the Magic have had a superstar that they don't remember what it's like to watch one. We don't have an SGA, Wemby, Giannis, Tatum or the like. We have two star players that aren't a natural on-court fit. It's going to take more than Banchero and Wagner to become contenders.

[T-Cat]

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[fendilim]

To be fair, in the same podcast, they did say that we are in the same scenario (not active in trade deadline) OKC was in LAST YEAR.

Same scenario like the 57 win OKC? Same scenario like the 57 win okc with open cap space next summer? Same scenario as the 57 win OKC who get a elite player like Chet back for free the next season? Same sneraio as the 57 win OKC with more picks than 70% of the leaque combined as future asset to get cheap players or to do any trade they want?

No, that's not the same scenario.

This is most epic part of all this.
OKC traded their former 6th overall pick for 30+ years old role player because it fitted their vision, they signed starter from other playoff team.
They won 57-58 games last year AND made moves after passing first round of playoffs and playing 7 games to eventual finalist.

Magic lost in first round to a team without starting C, backup PF who lost in very next round, signed one low usage 3 and D player because "championship pedigree" , ignored guy plays same position and role as Suggs, resigned two most injury prone players from 2017 draft and called a year.
Midway through next year team is falling apart and we learn our Front office does not engage in trade talks, and most of a league views them as awkward goofballs.

Also isn't it fitting how same people who bring injuries as excuse, but bring OKC as defending point in very next sentence tend to "forget" how OKC lost Chet Holmgren, their second best player for 40 games and didn't used that as excuse? Hmm... interesting

that’s actually true.

But okc also has a mvp caliber cornerstone already. Not to mention, a treasure trove of assets.

OKC is already in the 6th year of the rebuild. Took them a while to reach this point as well. This is like our third/fourth year. Y’all have to relax.

Obviously, no moves during the deadline don’t make sense. But at the same time, you have to look at the mirror and ask yourself is it worth it to give those assets, when at best we’re just gonna be a second round team. We don’t even have a player playing at an mvp level.

The best of the best wins when they are around 25-28 years old. Even Tatum is 26, when he won his first ring. Kobe had shaq who was already at the peak of his career already. It is unrealistic to go all in and make a big splash at this point, tbh.

Slowly acquiring pieces around Franz and Paolo, sure, but, if what weltman says is true that teams are squeezing assets since we are on a losing streak, then it is not worth it.

Also, we’ve really been bugged by injuries this season.

[fendilim]

Even reddit fans turning on him.

That Brian Windhorst segment is brutal. How da f**** can you run nba team if you don't even ingage into conversation with others? You think somebody called Pelinka and asked to dump Luka? That MFer was filmed at Dallas coffe shop talking with Dallas Nico Harrison.

Where was Weltman last ? Golf court?

Who da hell gave all the power to a guy who's only job was taking care of Raptors bench in first place? He pushed Hammond to retire and now we have "GM" that most people forgot even exsited and who is doing his first nba job as executive.

It's borderline crazy situation.
41% win rate since he took over 7 years ago.

Get him off before off season, i don't want this tool to resign Corey Joseph " on friendly" 4 years $60M contract because we are "family" .

To be fair, in the same podcast, they did say that we are in the same scenario (not active in trade deadline) OKC was in LAST YEAR.

Same scenario like the 57 win OKC? Same scenario like the 57 win okc with open cap space next summer? Same scenario as the 57 win OKC who get a elite player like Chet back for free the next season? Same sneraio as the 57 win OKC with more picks than 70% of the leaque combined as future asset to get cheap players or to do any trade they want?

No, that's not the same scenario.

Lol like i said, same scenario where both teams didnt do anything major during the deadline.