Would you trade Franz for Giannis?

[Skybox]

Freak Summer: Take 1...
objective - contend ASAP with no regard for financial well-being or long term, get a ring or two and tear it back down if you have to.

Trade #1:
ORL sends Suggs & #25 to CLE for Garland

Trade #2:
ORL sends Franz (honestly I'd -MIL would too- rather trade Paolo for Giannis, but salaries...), Moe, Cole, Jett & #16
for Giannis (he'd have to ask for ORL) and Bobby Portis, who agrees to opt in and ring-chase

Trade #3:
ORL sends Goga Bitadze to WAS for Cory Kispert

ORL drafts declines Gary & Caleb, exercises option on CoJo

WCJ, Portis
Giannis, Isaac
Paolo, TdS
KCP, AB, Kispert
Garland, CoJo

Whoa...that could work. Lineups are obviously just thrown around but almost everyone but the TWO TRUE PGs are multi-positional defenders

[T-Cat]

Freak Summer: Take 1...
objective - contend ASAP with no regard for financial well-being or long term, get a ring or two and tear it back down if you have to.

Trade #1:
ORL sends Suggs & #25 to CLE for Garland

Trade #2:
ORL sends Franz (honestly I'd -MIL would too- rather trade Paolo for Giannis, but salaries...), Moe, Cole, Jett & #16
for Giannis (he'd have to ask for ORL) and Bobby Portis, who agrees to opt in and ring-chase

Trade #3:
ORL sends Goga Bitadze to WAS for Cory Kispert

ORL drafts declines Gary & Caleb, exercises option on CoJo

WCJ, Portis
Giannis, Isaac
Paolo, TdS
KCP, AB, Kispert
Garland, CoJo

Whoa...that could work. Lineups are obviously just thrown around but almost everyone but the TWO TRUE PGs are multi-positional defenders

I'm almost certain Milwaukee will want to include Damian Lilliard in any trade with Giannis! Even though Dame will miss next season, will a team like Orlando bite the bullet and acquire him and Giannis because they know no other team will participate in that acquisition?

[Skybox]

Freak Summer: Take 1...
objective - contend ASAP with no regard for financial well-being or long term, get a ring or two and tear it back down if you have to.

Trade #1:
ORL sends Suggs & #25 to CLE for Garland

Trade #2:
ORL sends Franz (honestly I'd -MIL would too- rather trade Paolo for Giannis, but salaries...), Moe, Cole, Jett & #16
for Giannis (he'd have to ask for ORL) and Bobby Portis, who agrees to opt in and ring-chase

Trade #3:
ORL sends Goga Bitadze to WAS for Cory Kispert

ORL drafts declines Gary & Caleb, exercises option on CoJo

WCJ, Portis
Giannis, Isaac
Paolo, TdS
KCP, AB, Kispert
Garland, CoJo

Whoa...that could work. Lineups are obviously just thrown around but almost everyone but the TWO TRUE PGs are multi-positional defenders

I'm almost certain Milwaukee will want to include Damian Lilliard in any trade with Giannis! Even though Dame will miss next season, will a team like Orlando bite the bullet and acquire him and Giannis because they know no other team will participate in that acquisition?

From all indications, they won’t do that to Giannis…it would cut the trade return in half…better off getting kids & picks and wait and see what Dame’s recovery looks like or just ride the contract out while tanking

[pepe1991]

Freak Summer: Take 1...
objective - contend ASAP with no regard for financial well-being or long term, get a ring or two and tear it back down if you have to.

Trade #1:
ORL sends Suggs & #25 to CLE for Garland

Trade #2:
ORL sends Franz (honestly I'd -MIL would too- rather trade Paolo for Giannis, but salaries...), Moe, Cole, Jett & #16
for Giannis (he'd have to ask for ORL) and Bobby Portis, who agrees to opt in and ring-chase

Trade #3:
ORL sends Goga Bitadze to WAS for Cory Kispert

ORL drafts declines Gary & Caleb, exercises option on CoJo

WCJ, Portis
Giannis, Isaac
Paolo, TdS
KCP, AB, Kispert
Garland, CoJo

Whoa...that could work. Lineups are obviously just thrown around but almost everyone but the TWO TRUE PGs are multi-positional defenders

I'm almost certain Milwaukee will want to include Damian Lilliard in any trade with Giannis! Even though Dame will miss next season, will a team like Orlando bite the bullet and acquire him and Giannis because they know no other team will participate in that acquisition?

From all indications, they won’t do that to Giannis…it would cut the trade return in half…better off getting kids & picks and wait and see what Dame’s recovery looks like or just ride the contract out while tanking

Good luck with that. Who will take $110M salary with half of it being dead cap?

PIstons or Nets. Those are only teams that can.

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[T-Cat]

I'm almost certain Milwaukee will want to include Damian Lilliard in any trade with Giannis! Even though Dame will miss next season, will a team like Orlando bite the bullet and acquire him and Giannis because they know no other team will participate in that acquisition?

From all indications, they won’t do that to Giannis…it would cut the trade return in half…better off getting kids & picks and wait and see what Dame’s recovery looks like or just ride the contract out while tanking

Good luck with that. Who will take $110M salary with half of it being dead cap?

PIstons or Nets. Those are only teams that can.

According to hoopshype.com salary, Orlando can give up Jalen Suggs($35m), Franz Wagner($38m), Anthony Black($7m), TDS($3m), Jett Howard($5m), Cole Anthony($13m) and WCJ($10).

That's not even including the draft capital Orlando could offer in exchange for Giannis($57m) & Lillard($58m) with final year $62 million play option.

Paolo's contract extension also kicks in that same year Dame could opt out and save us even more $$

C- Goga/Dwight Howard (Sign for Cheap)
PF-Banchero/JI
SF-Giannis
SG-KCP
PG-Chris Paul/Markelle Fultz/Dame Lillard

[basketballRob]

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He's probably talking about Miami

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[89Magicfan]

From all indications, they won’t do that to Giannis…it would cut the trade return in half…better off getting kids & picks and wait and see what Dame’s recovery looks like or just ride the contract out while tanking

Good luck with that. Who will take $110M salary with half of it being dead cap?

PIstons or Nets. Those are only teams that can.

According to hoopshype.com salary, Orlando can give up Jalen Suggs($35m), Franz Wagner($38m), Anthony Black($7m), TDS($3m), Jett Howard($5m), Cole Anthony($13m) and WCJ($10).

That's not even including the draft capital Orlando could offer in exchange for Giannis($57m) & Lillard($58m) with final year $62 million play option.

Paolo's contract extension also kicks in that same year Dame could opt out and save us even more $$

C- Goga/Dwight Howard (Sign for Cheap)
PF-Banchero/JI
SF-Giannis
SG-KCP
PG-Chris Paul/Markelle Fultz/Dame Lillard

There’s no outside shooting coming from that roster.

[AdamTheGreek]

Giannis is going to the Lakers or Spurs. Moot discussion.

He does not want to go West.

It’s an easier path to get to the Finals through the East.

What are options for him on East?

Knicks? That's probably it.

Don’t underestimate the Greek fan factor.
The other factor is Gianni is a financially savvy person who if he can save a buck (taxes) he will.

Toronto. Big Greek population. Masai has always been a fan of him. They could put a good team around him.

Both New York teams. Huge Greek presence, largest in North America.
Nets might be a worse supporting cast than he currently has in Milwaukee.
Knicks are in the ECF. Do they want to make large scale changes (they should, but will they?).

Orlando. Tax advantage. Family-friendly city, Weltman and Hammond ties.

Chicago. Good Greek presence. He respects that franchise’s history. Kind of similar to the Nets though after a trade would happen there wouldn’t be much left for a supporting cast.
Detroit is possible, but I doubt the Bucks want to send Gianni to a division team.

I’ve seen people mention Miami but they have no assets for a trade and their team supporting cast would suck.

My pitch for Gianni is a 2-season sprint with Paolo and Franz to win a title and then Gianni can go elsewhere or return to Milwaukee.
That’s why I’m not offering anything bigger than Suggs for what would be a 2-season rental.

[89Magicfan]

He does not want to go West.

It’s an easier path to get to the Finals through the East.

What are options for him on East?

Knicks? That's probably it.

Don’t underestimate the Greek fan factor.
The other factor is Gianni is a financially savvy person who if he can save a buck (taxes) he will.

Toronto. Big Greek population. Masai has always been a fan of him. They could put a good team around him.

Both New York teams. Huge Greek presence, largest in North America.
Nets might be a worse supporting cast than he currently has in Milwaukee.
Knicks are in the ECF. Do they want to make large scale changes (they should, but will they?).

Orlando. Tax advantage. Family-friendly city, Weltman and Hammond ties.

Chicago. Good Greek presence. He respects that franchise’s history. Kind of similar to the Nets though after a trade would happen there wouldn’t be much left for a supporting cast.
Detroit is possible, but I doubt the Bucks want to send Gianni to a division team.

I’ve seen people mention Miami but they have no assets for a trade and their team supporting cast would suck.

My pitch for Gianni is a 2-season sprint with Paolo and Franz to win a title and then Gianni can go elsewhere or return to Milwaukee.
That’s why I’m not offering anything bigger than Suggs for what would be a 2-season rental.

Let’s say for conversation sake we trade for Giannis. We kept Franz. I don’t think we even get a hello from them without Franz involved but let’s just say…

We’d run Franz/Giannis/Paolo at 2,3,4. Who’s the PG?

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HE DIDN'T SAY "MIAMI" OR "CITY"

[Skybox]

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He's probably talking about Miami

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I'm sure he knows how to say "Miami"...he didn't

[AdamTheGreek]

What are options for him on East?

Knicks? That's probably it.

Don’t underestimate the Greek fan factor.
The other factor is Gianni is a financially savvy person who if he can save a buck (taxes) he will.

Toronto. Big Greek population. Masai has always been a fan of him. They could put a good team around him.

Both New York teams. Huge Greek presence, largest in North America.
Nets might be a worse supporting cast than he currently has in Milwaukee.
Knicks are in the ECF. Do they want to make large scale changes (they should, but will they?).

Orlando. Tax advantage. Family-friendly city, Weltman and Hammond ties.

Chicago. Good Greek presence. He respects that franchise’s history. Kind of similar to the Nets though after a trade would happen there wouldn’t be much left for a supporting cast.
Detroit is possible, but I doubt the Bucks want to send Gianni to a division team.

I’ve seen people mention Miami but they have no assets for a trade and their team supporting cast would suck.

My pitch for Gianni is a 2-season sprint with Paolo and Franz to win a title and then Gianni can go elsewhere or return to Milwaukee.
That’s why I’m not offering anything bigger than Suggs for what would be a 2-season rental.

Let’s say for conversation sake we trade for Giannis. We kept Franz. I don’t think we even get a hello from them without Franz involved but let’s just say…

We’d run Franz/Giannis/Paolo at 2,3,4. Who’s the PG?

I have a 4-way trade that gets us Simons.

Any trade involving Gianni is going to be a 3 or 4-way for any team acquiring him because the Bucks want to get rid of Lillard’s deal, too.

If we get Gianni, CoJo could be ‘point’ and we’d be fine because Gianni, Paolo, and Franz would be running pick-and-rolls all day with the uninvolved guy leaking to the rim and the other two guys on the floor open for 3s.
Weltman is about positionless basketball, this is his dream coming true.

[Skybox]

He does not want to go West.

It’s an easier path to get to the Finals through the East.

What are options for him on East?

Knicks? That's probably it.

Don’t underestimate the Greek fan factor.
The other factor is Gianni is a financially savvy person who if he can save a buck (taxes) he will.

Toronto. Big Greek population. Masai has always been a fan of him. They could put a good team around him.

Both New York teams. Huge Greek presence, largest in North America.
Nets might be a worse supporting cast than he currently has in Milwaukee.
Knicks are in the ECF. Do they want to make large scale changes (they should, but will they?).

Orlando. Tax advantage. Family-friendly city, Weltman and Hammond ties.

Chicago. Good Greek presence. He respects that franchise’s history. Kind of similar to the Nets though after a trade would happen there wouldn’t be much left for a supporting cast.
Detroit is possible, but I doubt the Bucks want to send Gianni to a division team.

I’ve seen people mention Miami but they have no assets for a trade and their team supporting cast would suck.

My pitch for Gianni is a 2-season sprint with Paolo and Franz to win a title and then Gianni can go elsewhere or return to Milwaukee.
That’s why I’m not offering anything bigger than Suggs for what would be a 2-season rental.

MIA is very international...but that doesn't sound like Greek to me

Devos can buy him a place in Tarpon Springs and fund the Brightline to make a stop...this is a pretty exciting development that I did not see coming...

[89Magicfan]

Don’t underestimate the Greek fan factor.
The other factor is Gianni is a financially savvy person who if he can save a buck (taxes) he will.

Toronto. Big Greek population. Masai has always been a fan of him. They could put a good team around him.

Both New York teams. Huge Greek presence, largest in North America.
Nets might be a worse supporting cast than he currently has in Milwaukee.
Knicks are in the ECF. Do they want to make large scale changes (they should, but will they?).

Orlando. Tax advantage. Family-friendly city, Weltman and Hammond ties.

Chicago. Good Greek presence. He respects that franchise’s history. Kind of similar to the Nets though after a trade would happen there wouldn’t be much left for a supporting cast.
Detroit is possible, but I doubt the Bucks want to send Gianni to a division team.

I’ve seen people mention Miami but they have no assets for a trade and their team supporting cast would suck.

My pitch for Gianni is a 2-season sprint with Paolo and Franz to win a title and then Gianni can go elsewhere or return to Milwaukee.
That’s why I’m not offering anything bigger than Suggs for what would be a 2-season rental.

Let’s say for conversation sake we trade for Giannis. We kept Franz. I don’t think we even get a hello from them without Franz involved but let’s just say…

We’d run Franz/Giannis/Paolo at 2,3,4. Who’s the PG?

I have a 4-way trade that gets us Simons.

Any trade involving Gianni is going to be a 3 or 4-way for any team acquiring him because the Bucks want to get rid of Lillard’s deal, too.

If we get Gianni, CoJo could be ‘point’ and we’d be fine because Gianni, Paolo, and Franz would be running pick-and-rolls all day with the uninvolved guy leaking to the rim and the other two guys on the floor open for 3s.
Weltman is about positionless basketball, this is his dream coming true.

So you’d run CoJo at point and Simons off the bench or Simons at point and CoJo off the bench?

Goga at the 5?

[Skybox]

Let’s say for conversation sake we trade for Giannis. We kept Franz. I don’t think we even get a hello from them without Franz involved but let’s just say…

We’d run Franz/Giannis/Paolo at 2,3,4. Who’s the PG?

I have a 4-way trade that gets us Simons.

Any trade involving Gianni is going to be a 3 or 4-way for any team acquiring him because the Bucks want to get rid of Lillard’s deal, too.

If we get Gianni, CoJo could be ‘point’ and we’d be fine because Gianni, Paolo, and Franz would be running pick-and-rolls all day with the uninvolved guy leaking to the rim and the other two guys on the floor open for 3s.
Weltman is about positionless basketball, this is his dream coming true.

So you’d run CoJo at point and Simons off the bench or Simons at point and CoJo off the bench?

Goga at the 5?

I'd start Simons, like we would without Giannis...just for the floor spreading. Franz & Paolo (if by some miracle...) and Giannis are on-ball a lot anyway. The complaints I have about our offensive scheme go out the window when you add a force of nature like Giannis next to a force of nature like Paolo...I'm assuming this story involves Suggs, maybe Isaac and a million picks going out the door? (the math works but we'd be up the Apron Creek while immediately contending...but we could tear it down in a couple of years after fighting for rings right away). Nobody ever regrets deals that directly relate to a ring(s). Waive everyone that's not guaranteed and have vet ring-chasers fighting for your vet min slots with that lineup.Wow.

I really have to take a breath re: Giannis' tweet about "Florida Cities"...could Weltman's connection to young Giannis really be a thing here? along with taxes, weather, Adam's podcast, etc

[89Magicfan]

I have a 4-way trade that gets us Simons.

Any trade involving Gianni is going to be a 3 or 4-way for any team acquiring him because the Bucks want to get rid of Lillard’s deal, too.

If we get Gianni, CoJo could be ‘point’ and we’d be fine because Gianni, Paolo, and Franz would be running pick-and-rolls all day with the uninvolved guy leaking to the rim and the other two guys on the floor open for 3s.
Weltman is about positionless basketball, this is his dream coming true.

So you’d run CoJo at point and Simons off the bench or Simons at point and CoJo off the bench?

Goga at the 5?

I'd start Simons, like we would without Giannis...just for the floor spreading. Franz & Paolo (if by some miracle...) and Giannis are on-ball a lot anyway. The complaints I have about our offensive scheme go out the window when you add a force of nature like Giannis next to a force of nature like Paolo...I'm assuming this story involves Suggs, maybe Isaac and a million picks going out the door? (the math works but we'd be up the Apron Creek while immediately contending...but we could tear it down in a couple of years after fighting for rings right away). Nobody ever regrets deals that directly relate to a ring(s). Waive everyone that's not guaranteed and have vet ring-chasers fighting for your vet min slots with that lineup.Wow.

I really have to take a breath re: Giannis' tweet about "Florida Cities"...could Weltman's connection to young Giannis really be a thing here? along with taxes, weather, Adam's podcast, etc

It’s not out of the realm of possibility.


Can we do this and still maintain some depth?

[basketballRob]

If Paolo was already making the max, it would be an easier swap. If you swapped Paolo for Giannis, we would be a favorite in the east.

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[89Magicfan]

If Paolo was already making the max, it would be an easier swap. If you swapped Paolo for Giannis, we would be a favorite in the east.

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Nah. I’m keeping Paolo.

[cedric76]

SA will make Milwaukee an offer they can't refuse