JJ Demands Trade?

[lovehoops01]

I'm pretty sure that's what he measured at the predraft camp.

Look, you can't say everything on Sirius is bad. I'll admit I've never heard Scott Ferrell's show on Sirius, but I know he used to do some Fox Radio work, and I can't say I have a lot of respect for anyone who works on that radio network.

Also, I think it's important not to jump to conclusions based on what you heard someone said on a radio network. It's kind of like that game of telephone that we used to play when we were kids. By the time the story gets to the end of the circle, the story is nothing like it started.

Having said all that, it's no stretch to see that J.J. can't be happy because he's not playing. I mean, there was a story in the Sentinel on Thursday that said he was tired of sitting on the bench. In that story, he didn't demand a trade but he said he really needs to get in the rhythm of a game to show what he can do. Tt's not like he wasn't among the very best college players when he was in college, but that doesn't necessarily mean that he'll ever work out in the NBA. There have been some great Duke players who never did make it in the NBA.

I'm not quite sure what he expects, though. He played on Tuesday night, and he helped the team and got to take a bunch of shots. The minutes he played in Wednesday's game were disastrous. Are the Magic supposed to just keep playing him until they lose games that they have a shot at winning because J.J. wants to play more? Does it make any sense that the Magic wouldn't play him more if he helped them win? Does it make any sense that his teammates would not give him the ball if he could help them win? C'mon. I think that is a stretch. They are going to lose on purpose so they don't have to give J.J. the ball? That's like taking money out of their own pockets. I have seen times when they have chosen to pass to someone besides Rashard and Dwight, too. I'm guessing they just saw something else on the floor that they thought was better.

While I will agree with you that a lot of good ex-Magic players are no longer playing for the Magic, I cannot agree with you that players with a lot of talent were just kept down in Orlando. The Magic have lost some talented players -- but not because they didn't play them. All of the really good players the Magic had here played well when they were in Orlando, too. They just aren't here anymore because 1). The Magic were looking for a player at a different position than that guy played and traded him to try to acquire that other guy; or 2). That player didn't want to be here anymore.

I do agree, though, that the Magic need to do something about J.J. They either need to play him at least a little or they need to trade him for someone who they will play. As it is now, they have his option for next season, too. It doesn't help J.J. not to play, and it doesn't help the Magic if he starts causing trouble. I can't say honestly that I know what they have in Redick. Sometimes when he gets to play, he looks like Reggie Miller. I have seen him play when he clearly showed that he is a smart basketball player. And other times when he gets to play, he cannot seem to make one correct play and just looks flat out clumsy. I really don't have an opinion on him as a player right now because of that.

[OrlandoMagic]

love, dont ever write something that long again

[lovehoops01]

Too late.

Look, everything is not right or wrong and can be summed up in one sentence.

[Pancho_Pantera]

Send him to Golden State for Peitrus already. Geesh.

[magicfanejc42]

I will be VERY upset if JJ is traded over Bogans or Dooling.. I have to be honest, we may lack in defense, but JJ fits our system better than anyone... His three point shot is spot on..

I see where he is coming from if this is true, how hard can it be for SVG to give him 20 mins? honestly? Put him in the game and give him a few shots.. He can turn the game around QUICKLY.. if you couldnt tell against the Kings... He comes in plays well, almost every time he gets a few solid minutes and then he is pulled to never see the court again..at least not for 10 games..

As a magic fan I am suprised at how many of you jumped all over him the second you heard he " wanted to be traded" We all have hoped for the best and that he would turn out and we all still have the feeling that he hasn't had that chance..

Oh and about the Langdon bull....GET OUTA HERE. JJ has come in and been very consisntent when he plays.. Yes he makes mistakes.. But he has probably played a total of 1000 NBA minutes maybe... to be honest he probably has half of that... He deserves a shot and I really hope it's on this team, if not, and he really gets a true shot in the NBA we are going to wish we didn't trade him.. No doubt in my mind.. You don't trade a shooter that good.... You find time for him in the game.. it's so frustrating as a fan, imagine how he feels.. I have a few friends that have played on high levels and are very strong competitors and when they didn't get to play they became depressed and had all sorts of troubles. JJ is headed that direction, his confidence is down, his defensive skill cannot get any better from sittin on the bench and his shot is declining during game time, because the bench doesn't help... Once again the Magic are wasting another talent. I am sick of it, I hope we can add him to the list of " we shoulda kept him"



He's going to do well in the NBA with us or not, I would rather it be us.. People need to have more faith.. Every one has been down on him since the day we drafted him, people need to sit and really look at him as a player... He hustles, is a great shooter, could be a great leader.. Competitors like him turn out to be great leaders, because to lose isn't in their vocabulary...He won't ever turn out to be great but without a doubt in my mind, if he got constant minutes he could put up 10-15 points a game...

GIVE HIM A CHANCE!! DON'T TRADE HIM!!!

[noblejedi777]

you cant be serious... for one JJ isnt a cancer, but to throw Stan under the bus, you are completely out of your mind. Stan has been by far the best coach this franchise has ever seen, bar none. Time will be the judge, but I'm telling you right now, if Stan isnt playing him, there is a reason for it. You also have to remember, there is a huge clog in guards, we have a lot of guards on this team, just the other day, Stan admitted that he made the mistake in not putting in Dooling, and he's by far our best guard off the bench. I have confidence in JJ, but we are not the ones coaching this team. I want to see more of JJ, i think the lot of us want to see more of him. The other night he came out and played magnificent for our team in the 4th. It's too bad it came in a loss, but yeah I am with the lot of you, I want to see this kid play. Right now though, I just don't see how Stan can play him when he's buried on the bench.

Jameer, Carlos, Keyon, Bogans, Evans, Reddick. Am I missing any guards from that list? Reddick sits behind Keyon and Mo Evans in the lineup. Unless he shows otherwise, he's not moving from that spot. JJ isnt a 1, he's a 2, if he was more of a pass first distributor, or he had the skills to run the point, it would be a different story, but he's a straight up 2. He's not as versatile as the other guards. The guy has no d, and although he hustles, he's a defensive liablity and we need lock down defenders to man the back court. Keyon and Bogans are probably our best guards that can both play d and score. These two guys are the ones, if I had a say in player movement would be the ones I would keep, and ship the rest out if it gave us a chance to land a reliable point guard who has what it takes the run this club.

[noblejedi777]

if you have read any of my past posts, you know that I am a Jameer fan, and i dont want to see him go, i'm also a carlos arroyo fan, but I'd send both of them packing if we were able to land a guard that we knew could take us to the next level. Right now, I just dont know who that guy is? We need a proven field general who can run this team efficiently, and no one on this team fits that role.

If they step their game up and prove to us that they deserve to play alongside Dwight, then this discussion would be a moot one. I hate to say it, but our point guard position is the weakest position on this team, and the most glaring. the next is the 4. We need someone to help Dwight out, and right now, we are hurting. It really hurts having Tony out for the season.

[magicmamma]

I think that SVG was perfectly sincere this time when he said that he would find playing time for JJ. Too bad that JJ came out, promptly turned the ball over, and went downhill from there. SVG had to take him out, but we all have days like that. The biggest problem with getting PT for JJ is that almost every game is really close. In a close game, you almost have to go with experience.

I think SVG wants to keep JJ. The kid has good trade value, and would probably be gone by now if he didn't.

[tontoz]

Redick is 6'4" w/o shoes but does have short arms. Here are his combine numbers:

http://www.draftexpress.com/nba-pre-dra ... t=15&sort=


He timed as fast as Roy and Gay in the sprint.

[theTHIEF]

well look at that, NOT 6'5" in shoes, let alone 6'5 1/2"

[LBPTarHeel27]

How long is it going to be until everyone finally admits that JJ is not an NBA player and I am no longer just a Duke hater for saying he won't amount to anything in the NBA?

[theTHIEF]

until he gets a chance to have significant playing time...

[LBPTarHeel27]

until he gets a chance to have significant playing time...

Don't ya think if he were good enough he would play? Especially considering we have no true great starting SG. I highly doubt SVG just has a grudge with JJ and is sitting him to piss JJ off.

That being said...while JJ sits the bench his entire career, never cracking an average of 20 MPG, you won't ever give up on him because he "didn't get a chance"?

[y 2 a B]

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Don't ya think if he were good enough he would play? Especially considering we have no true great starting SG. I highly doubt SVG just has a grudge with JJ and is sitting him to piss JJ off.

That being said...while JJ sits the bench his entire career, never cracking an average of 20 MPG, you won't ever give up on him because he "didn't get a chance"?

No, not really. Was that the same case with Ariza? We certainly knew he could play, but look at him now starting for the Lakers.

Also, I talked to John Denton the other day and he told me SVG thinks JJ is too soft, which makes sense, but that still doesn't mean he shouldn't be cracking the rotation if he proved he can produce. I don't think he is trying to "piss" him off, it's just he hasn't put the full trust in JJ yet be a core part of the team.

[LBPTarHeel27]

Both JJ and Ariza played for Brian Hill. Ariza played a lot, JJ didn't at all. Ariza and JJ both played for SVG, Ariza still got in the game...just not much, and JJ still doesn't play at all.

SVG called Ariza a situational player, in contrast to JJ being called soft.

JJ has not shown that he can produce, despite what some people say and want to believe. Just because he gets in a game and makes a shot or two does not mean he can produce for an NBA team.

When he gets in the game he does look lost at times and is frequently out of place on D. Everyone here complains about how we often leave a guy for a wide open 3. Watch JJ when he gets in the game. He is the king of this. He doesn't look AWFUL with his man to man defense because he is rarely on his man or where he should be. Mentally he is still playing a college defense where he helps out wayyyyyyyyy too much, leaving his man open.

People have so much hope for him to be good that they look past what he is actually doing and capable of doing.

No matter how good of a shooter he is, he will always be a defensive liability and give up more points than he actually scores.

He IS soft. He would even get knocked around by better defenders in college. The best way to make a shooter uncomfortable is to play physically. EVERY player JJ will go up against will be stronger and tougher.

Face reality people.

[craig01]

until he gets a chance to have significant playing time...

Or even just time.

I'm not a believer of Redick as a solid contributor, but geez, lets find out what he can or can't do. We'll never know as long as he keeps piling up cd-dnp's 6 out of 7 games.

There are some limited situations he could help.

[OrlandoMagic]

maybe we can trade JJ back to Duke??

[LBPTarHeel27]

maybe we can trade JJ back to Duke??

JJ Redick+$2,000,000 for Kyle Singler or Gerald Henderson

Get it done.

[theTHIEF]

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Or even just time.

I'm not a believer of Redick as a solid contributor, but geez, lets find out what he can or can't do. We'll never know as long as he keeps piling up cd-dnp's 6 out of 7 games.

There are some limited situations he could help.

that's all i was trying to say...

[sChOlaRlY_Magi]

Glad I got the Howard jersey last game I went to instead of his... That definitely was ONE of the reasons I got Dwight's. Saw this coming...

That being said, I would still like to see him get some playing time.

What would really be nice is to see the Magic get off to a great start in games, and build a solid lead... Then let JJ into the game and see what he can do. That though, has probably been SVG's mindset as well, but we all see how that has worked out.