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Playoffs G4: Toronto Raptors (2) @ Orlando Magic (7)

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Re: Playoffs G4: Toronto Raptors (2) @ Orlando Magic (7) 

Post#601 » by Knightro » Mon Apr 22, 2019 1:20 am

BlueBalls wrote:You don’t seem to understand that we, as Magic fans, have little external efficacy towards our FO making smart basketball moves. The ONLY reason this team is where it is now is because of lotto picks. And even then we’ve either blown those (Elfried, Mario) or traded them for a pile of magic beans (Dipo, Sabonis). So no, many of is don’t think this WeHam Portmanteau is going to be any different. But a higher draft pick statistically leads to better players, regardless of who is calling the shots.


So essentially you’re admitting that you’re working off a “the guys who were here before sucked so the guys here now obviously will also suck!” rationale?

Sorry man, but that doesn’t work for me.

This team just improved by 17 wins from one season to the next. No matter what anyone wants to say about it, that’s real tangible progress.

Getting beat in 5 games (which mind you almost every single poster on this board picked the Magic to lose in 4 or 5) to a really good Toronto team doesn’t make me any less excited and interested to see how the front office and coaching staff will look to build off the clear progress that was made this season.
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Re: Playoffs G4: Toronto Raptors (2) @ Orlando Magic (7) 

Post#602 » by Rainwater » Mon Apr 22, 2019 1:20 am

MagicStarwipe wrote:I think Ross is gone. At his age he'll be looking to sign on with a contender to put them over the top.

Vuc will probably prioritise staying here, but only if the price is right. I'm not sure he'll get many big offers elsewhere though. I may be wrong about his desire to stay here after what happened in these Playoffs though.



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Post#603 » by NavalAviator94 » Mon Apr 22, 2019 1:21 am

Bensational wrote:Unless we see some miracle performances after this, Ive got to hope that Fournier has played himself off the team this series. And that DJ has played himself back into a backup PG role.


At the end of the day, getting into the playoffs(and during) has shown what guys need to work on and what holes we need to fill.

We are a top 5 defensive team as is which is something to build off of.


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Post#604 » by MagicStarwipe » Mon Apr 22, 2019 1:21 am

Bensational wrote:Unless we see some miracle performances after this, Ive got to hope that Fournier has played himself off the team this series. And that DJ has played himself back into a backup PG role.


I don't even want DJ as a backup. His weaknesses bother me that much.
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Post#605 » by Bensational » Mon Apr 22, 2019 1:22 am

Clifford said that the good players figure things out as the playoffs go on. Gordon looks like he's figuring things out. Can't say the same for many others on the team.
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Post#606 » by J the Drafter » Mon Apr 22, 2019 1:22 am

So frustrating to see Issac get taken out of the game with those first half fouls.
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Post#607 » by BadMofoPimp » Mon Apr 22, 2019 1:23 am

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Magic#1 wrote:In the biggest game of our season, Norman Powell would be the third highest scorer on our team right now. That's a problem.

The biggest problem is that our all star center, who is looking for a huge payday, has only shown up for 1 of 16 quarters so far. He consistently has made mistakes and rushed easy plays. He does not play winning basketball in the modern NBA.


By that type of analysis, nobody should be kept on this team as they all sucked ass.
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Post#608 » by Howard Mass » Mon Apr 22, 2019 1:23 am

This is very disappointing to watch The Magic get blown out in this game. Many assume now that Game 5 will be the final game of the season and because of that, the offseason talk has already started.
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Post#609 » by 407Junkie » Mon Apr 22, 2019 1:24 am

11 measly points in the biggest game of the year from the best center to ever play for this Magic franchise. Sign me up for five more years of this. I sure he’s still on the incline.
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Post#610 » by zaymon » Mon Apr 22, 2019 1:24 am

J the Drafter wrote:So frustrating to see Issac get taken out of the game with those first half fouls.

Taking him out turned to be Clifford worst decision this game. He preseved him for nothing
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Post#611 » by basketballRob » Mon Apr 22, 2019 1:24 am

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zaymon wrote:next year will be tough, Toronto really showed all our weaknesses other coaches can just do the same
Not Necessarily.... Next Season we're getting bamba back, fultz back and #16.... Should be better next season with that infusion of talent and internal improvement.

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Well Bamba will not be ready physically, Fultz is like a rookie and 16 will be a rookie. I am not so certain we will be better but i hope so for sure.
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Re: Playoffs G4: Toronto Raptors (2) @ Orlando Magic (7) 

Post#612 » by SOUL » Mon Apr 22, 2019 1:24 am

BadMofoPimp wrote:
thelead wrote:
Magic#1 wrote:In the biggest game of our season, Norman Powell would be the third highest scorer on our team right now. That's a problem.

The biggest problem is that our all star center, who is looking for a huge payday, has only shown up for 1 of 16 quarters so far. He consistently has made mistakes and rushed easy plays. He does not play winning basketball in the modern NBA.


By that type of analysis, nobody should be kept on this team as they all sucked ass.


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Post#613 » by ORL_on_FIRE » Mon Apr 22, 2019 1:24 am

Taking the fact Gordon looks ready and I’m running with it. He’s been a bright spot.
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Post#614 » by NavalAviator94 » Mon Apr 22, 2019 1:24 am

Bensational wrote:Clifford said that the good players figure things out as the playoffs go on. Gordon looks like he's figuring things out. Can't say the same for many others on the team.


Definitely will be interesting to see how things shake out with that lense.


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Post#615 » by MagicMatic » Mon Apr 22, 2019 1:25 am

Bensational wrote:Clifford said that the good players figure things out as the playoffs go on. Gordon looks like he's figuring things out. Can't say the same for many others on the team.


I’ll entirely eat crow in regards to Gordon. He was feasting when we were down by a lot with Vuc on the bench with a higher tempo. We can kiss that version of him goodbye if we bring back Vuc regardless of what we pay him.
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Post#616 » by basketballRob » Mon Apr 22, 2019 1:25 am

Toronto very well could win a championship this year.

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Post#617 » by npiper17 » Mon Apr 22, 2019 1:28 am

FFBlitzace wrote:Fournier strikes me as the type of guy that will guarantee a game 5 win in his interview tonight and then go 3-15 in the game with 4 turnovers.


Throughout the season, there’s been bits of praise for Evan’s post-loss interviews where he ‘tells it like it is.’

Has he followed it up with his play? No.
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Post#618 » by Howard Mass » Mon Apr 22, 2019 1:28 am

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Howard Mass wrote:Well, Steve Clifford is waving the White Flag.

There's still a game 5 to play.

Probably better to rest the guys and not risk injury, even if it's only for a marginal upgrade of a slim chance to extend the series.

I guess it outweighs any emotional arguments to have the starters in there for their (likely) last game in the Amway Center this season.

It's a bit of a bad look by the fans though, imo. I mean I get a few people leaving early but it was like 80%+ empty (the part that was visible on the broadcast).


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Post#619 » by npiper17 » Mon Apr 22, 2019 1:28 am

basketballRob wrote:Toronto very well could win a championship this year.

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Post#620 » by 407Junkie » Mon Apr 22, 2019 1:28 am

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