Official 2024-2025 Magic Trade ideas thread continued

[Airgordon00]

Trade 1: on draft night.
Magic get Malik monk and Jonas valanciunas

Kings get Johnathan Isaac, #25 pick and #46 pick.

Trade 2 after July 1st but agreed on draft night so they pick who they want.
Magic get Kevin Durant

Suns get KCP, Cole, Dell, AB, Rights to the 16th pick, their 2026 pick swap back, 2027 1st unprotected and. 2029 pick swap.

You roll with a starting lineup of Suggs, Franz, Durant, Paolo, Goga. With Monk, TDS, Moe, and some ring chasing vets to fill out the rest could be a dangerous combination. Plus KD expires when Paolo’s extension kicks in and he might take a discount since he is getting older(37 this year) and if not you cleared a bunch of long term contracts off the books that were not contributing for what they were paid.

I think monk would thrive as a 6th man for us and we could even finish some games with Monk, Suggs, Franz, Durant and Paolo at small ball center.

The East is wide open and these moves could push us to the top.

Thoughts?

Salary doesn’t work out.

I checked it in fanspo trade machine under the 2025-2026 season. We would have to decline Moes option for it to work but could resign him later in the summer after filling out the roster.

[VFX]

Trade 1: on draft night.
Magic get Malik monk and Jonas valanciunas

Kings get Johnathan Isaac, #25 pick and #46 pick.

Trade 2 after July 1st but agreed on draft night so they pick who they want.
Magic get Kevin Durant

Suns get KCP, Cole, Dell, AB, Rights to the 16th pick, their 2026 pick swap back, 2027 1st unprotected and. 2029 pick swap.

You roll with a starting lineup of Suggs, Franz, Durant, Paolo, Goga. With Monk, TDS, Moe, and some ring chasing vets to fill out the rest could be a dangerous combination. Plus KD expires when Paolo’s extension kicks in and he might take a discount since he is getting older(37 this year) and if not you cleared a bunch of long term contracts off the books that were not contributing for what they were paid.

I think monk would thrive as a 6th man for us and we could even finish some games with Monk, Suggs, Franz, Durant and Paolo at small ball center.

The East is wide open and these moves could push us to the top.

Thoughts?

Salary doesn’t work out.

I checked it in fanspo trade machine under the 2025-2026 season. We would have to decline Moes option for it to work but could resign him later in the summer after filling out the roster.

Is Orlando competing for a championship next season?

Because what you are doing with this trade is attempting to do what the Suns just did. And nobody in the NBA would trade places with that organization right now. Nobody.

[Airgordon00]

Salary doesn’t work out.

I checked it in fanspo trade machine under the 2025-2026 season. We would have to decline Moes option for it to work but could resign him later in the summer after filling out the roster.

Is Orlando competing for a championship next season?

Because what you are doing with this trade is attempting to do what the Suns just did. And nobody in the NBA would trade places with that organization right now. Nobody.

The east is wide open. Why wouldn’t we want to go for a championship? It’s not like the Pacers are that much better than us. If Giannis goes west then the opportunity to get there is right in front of us. Well the difference between us and the Suns is we still would have Paolo, Franz and Suggs and some assets still available to trade. Unlike the suns who only have Booker and an empty chest of assets.

[VFX]

I checked it in fanspo trade machine under the 2025-2026 season. We would have to decline Moes option for it to work but could resign him later in the summer after filling out the roster.

Is Orlando competing for a championship next season?

Because what you are doing with this trade is attempting to do what the Suns just did. And nobody in the NBA would trade places with that organization right now. Nobody.

The east is wide open. Why wouldn’t we want to go for a championship? It’s not like the Pacers are that much better than us. If Giannis goes west then the opportunity to get there is right in front of us. Well the difference between us and the Suns is we still would have Paolo, Franz and Suggs and some assets still available to trade. Unlike the suns who only have Booker and an empty chest of assets.

Here I’ll simplify my answer.

No.

[eyriq]

Next season we’ll have Franz on a max and Suggs right near it. This is a big boy cap sheet now. Calling us true contenders might be a year early, but 50+ wins and a final eight appearance as a dark horse? That’s a fair bar to set.

[SOUL]

I don't think they are signing a guy to a higher deal off an ACL tear who won't be playing over half of the season in a summer where we need to manage finances well to help our team.

Umm .....

Orlando signed Isaac to a four-year, $69.9 million extension in Dec. 2020, four months after tearing his ACL.

1. Old CBA
2. Isaac was 22/23 not 28.
3. Probably still a risky extension even not knowing if he would re-injure or not
4. Magic at that point had only been good when Isaac was playing and helping them secure a good defense

Mo is a solid scoring bench big who can help the team no doubt, but he's a big on a team that already has a bunch of bigs and will be coming off an injury, and we have a lot of other holes to fill.

[89Magicfan]

https://www.si.com/nba/magic/massive-mock-trade-links-orlando-magic-with-trae-young-01jweggvtgmb

[Cammo101]

https://www.si.com/nba/magic/massive-mock-trade-links-orlando-magic-with-trae-young-01jweggvtgmb

Yes please.

[cedric76]

https://www.si.com/nba/magic/massive-mock-trade-links-orlando-magic-with-trae-young-01jweggvtgmb

Yes please.

Wtf lol

Hawks Receive: Jalen Suggs, Anthony Black, Goga Bitadze, 2025 first-round pick (ORL or den? ), 2027 first-round pick and 2029 first-round pick swap.

that s a LOT, we don't have much assets to improve our roster, nearly 3 max contract is gonna hurt our flexibility, we need to turn Cole+ Jett into défensive pièces


Another proposal from someone that don't understand how the new CBA works.

Get Malcom brogdon in FA?
Resign cojo on the cheap?
If we r trading the den 2025, we would have to use our #16 on someone like clifford
Trade Cole + SRP for a back up C vet

Trae, brogdon, cojo
KCP, Clifford, Jett
Franz, Niang, TDS
Paolo, JI, Houstan
WCJ , Moe , back up vet

TBH, I m not a fan of this team, I don't like that trade

[pepe1991]

I don't think they are signing a guy to a higher deal off an ACL tear who won't be playing over half of the season in a summer where we need to manage finances well to help our team.

Umm .....

Orlando signed Isaac to a four-year, $69.9 million extension in Dec. 2020, four months after tearing his ACL.

1. Old CBA
2. Isaac was 22/23 not 28.
3. Probably still a risky extension even not knowing if he would re-injure or not
4. Magic at that point had only been good when Isaac was playing and helping them secure a good defense

Mo is a solid scoring bench big who can help the team no doubt, but he's a big on a team that already has a bunch of bigs and will be coming off an injury, and we have a lot of other holes to fill.

All logical stuff goes out of window when you talk about brother of your best player.

They probably simply can't cut ties now with him due fear of friction in relationship with Franz.

[Bensational]

https://www.si.com/nba/magic/massive-mock-trade-links-orlando-magic-with-trae-young-01jweggvtgmb

Yes please.

Wtf lol

Hawks Receive: Jalen Suggs, Anthony Black, Goga Bitadze, 2025 first-round pick (ORL or den? ), 2027 first-round pick and 2029 first-round pick swap.

that s a LOT, we don't have much assets to improve our roster, nearly 3 max contract is gonna hurt our flexibility, we need to turn Cole+ Jett into défensive pièces

Yeah that’s an overpay in my opinion. It’s either Suggs or Black + KCP. Cole + Jett for salary filler. No Goga. Picks are fine if they let us keep the #25 and 2026 PHO swap.

My thinking is that a lot of big names will get moved and amongst that someone is going to get moved for pennies on the dollar. I want to be the team moving Smart for Porzingis. Or Nesmith for Brogdon. Or Zach Collins and Tre Jones for Fox.

[drsd]

Is Orlando competing for a championship next season?

Because what you are doing with this trade is attempting to do what the Suns just did. And nobody in the NBA would trade places with that organization right now. Nobody.

Orlando is trying to model Indiana and OKC, not Phoenix!

[drsd]

Yes please.

Wtf lol

Hawks Receive: Jalen Suggs, Anthony Black, Goga Bitadze, 2025 first-round pick (ORL or den? ), 2027 first-round pick and 2029 first-round pick swap.

that s a LOT, we don't have much assets to improve our roster, nearly 3 max contract is gonna hurt our flexibility, we need to turn Cole+ Jett into défensive pièces

Yeah that’s an overpay in my opinion. It’s either Suggs or Black + KCP. Cole + Jett for salary filler. No Goga. Picks are fine if they let us keep the #25 and 2026 PHO swap.

My thinking is that a lot of big names will get moved and amongst that someone is going to get moved for pennies on the dollar. I want to be the team moving Smart for Porzingis. Or Nesmith for Brogdon. Or Zach Collins and Tre Jones for Fox.

The new CBA does not allow a team to carry three max players. Such trade options are economically impossible.

If the team want Young, financially, it would cost either F-Wagner or Banchero. That's just how it is.

[fendilim]

Wtf lol

Hawks Receive: Jalen Suggs, Anthony Black, Goga Bitadze, 2025 first-round pick (ORL or den? ), 2027 first-round pick and 2029 first-round pick swap.

that s a LOT, we don't have much assets to improve our roster, nearly 3 max contract is gonna hurt our flexibility, we need to turn Cole+ Jett into défensive pièces

Yeah that’s an overpay in my opinion. It’s either Suggs or Black + KCP. Cole + Jett for salary filler. No Goga. Picks are fine if they let us keep the #25 and 2026 PHO swap.

My thinking is that a lot of big names will get moved and amongst that someone is going to get moved for pennies on the dollar. I want to be the team moving Smart for Porzingis. Or Nesmith for Brogdon. Or Zach Collins and Tre Jones for Fox.

The new CBA does not allow a team to carry three max players. Such trade options are economically impossible.

If the team want Young, financially, it would cost either F-Wagner or Banchero. That's just how it is.

i agree.

Theoretically, if the Magic really do want to form a big 3 and enter the 2nd apron, IMO, they are confident enough that they have a really good chance to win the title.

And honestly, I dont know if a big 3 of Trae, Paolo and Franz will give you that. Trae is too one dimensional, imo, and can be easily exploited on defense.

[Bensational]

Wtf lol

Hawks Receive: Jalen Suggs, Anthony Black, Goga Bitadze, 2025 first-round pick (ORL or den? ), 2027 first-round pick and 2029 first-round pick swap.

that s a LOT, we don't have much assets to improve our roster, nearly 3 max contract is gonna hurt our flexibility, we need to turn Cole+ Jett into défensive pièces

Yeah that’s an overpay in my opinion. It’s either Suggs or Black + KCP. Cole + Jett for salary filler. No Goga. Picks are fine if they let us keep the #25 and 2026 PHO swap.

My thinking is that a lot of big names will get moved and amongst that someone is going to get moved for pennies on the dollar. I want to be the team moving Smart for Porzingis. Or Nesmith for Brogdon. Or Zach Collins and Tre Jones for Fox.

The new CBA does not allow a team to carry three max players. Such trade options are economically impossible.

If the team want Young, financially, it would cost either F-Wagner or Banchero. That's just how it is.

It does allow it, it just incurs a substantial penalty. But, the Magic won’t have 2 max contracts until 2026-27 season. It’s just Franz (and Suggs) next season.

Even then - this is the cheapest our max guys will ever be. If we’re gonna push all in and be prepared to spend big for 2-3 seasons to chase a championship then financially that window is now.

Paolo + Franz + Suggs = $89M
Tatum + Brown = $106M (+JRue/White = $139/135M)
Durant + Booker + Beal = $162M
KAT + OG + Brunson + Bridges + Hart = $171M

Our big 3 are almost half the cost of Phoenix’s big 3. We can add a Trae Young max to our big 3 and still be paying less than Boston does for their top 3 paid guys. Even when Paolo’s max kicks in, Suggs’ deal starts going down. And big names will be in flux this summer. The time is now.

[cedric76]

Wtf lol

Hawks Receive: Jalen Suggs, Anthony Black, Goga Bitadze, 2025 first-round pick (ORL or den? ), 2027 first-round pick and 2029 first-round pick swap.

that s a LOT, we don't have much assets to improve our roster, nearly 3 max contract is gonna hurt our flexibility, we need to turn Cole+ Jett into défensive pièces

Yeah that’s an overpay in my opinion. It’s either Suggs or Black + KCP. Cole + Jett for salary filler. No Goga. Picks are fine if they let us keep the #25 and 2026 PHO swap.

My thinking is that a lot of big names will get moved and amongst that someone is going to get moved for pennies on the dollar. I want to be the team moving Smart for Porzingis. Or Nesmith for Brogdon. Or Zach Collins and Tre Jones for Fox.

The new CBA does not allow a team to carry three max players. Such trade options are economically impossible.

If the team want Young, financially, it would cost either F-Wagner or Banchero. That's just how it is.

It s doable but you have to be very clever with the 12 other contracts

[drsd]

Tatum + Brown = $106M (+JRue/White = $139/135M)
Durant + Booker + Beal = $162M
KAT + OG + Brunson + Bridges + Hart = $171M

These are all old CBA examples.

Look at the salary commitments to the two Finalists this year:
https://hoopshype.com/salaries/indiana_pacers/
https://hoopshype.com/salaries/oklahoma_city_thunder/


Indiana and OKC "get it". This is what winning will look like over the next seven years.

[GelbeWand09]

Tatum + Brown = $106M (+JRue/White = $139/135M)
Durant + Booker + Beal = $162M
KAT + OG + Brunson + Bridges + Hart = $171M

These are all CBA examples.

Look at the salary commitments to the two Finalists this year:
https://hoopshype.com/salaries/indiana_pacers/
https://hoopshype.com/salaries/oklahoma_city_thunder/


Indiana and OKC "get it". This is what winning will look like over the next seven years.

OKC still got 2 of his 3 stars at rookie cost. Not repeatable / Indiana is only in the final because the few top teams in the east were injured.

[T-Cat]

https://www.si.com/nba/magic/massive-mock-trade-links-orlando-magic-with-trae-young-01jweggvtgmb

Yes please.

No massive NBA trade is going to happen until the Giannis trades falls through!

Teams won't trade in their big chips until Giannis is either staying or getting traded.

We could participate in a minor Magic/Rockets swap:

WCJ, 25th first round pick and future second for Reed Sheppard!

Orlando should also look into signing Chris Paul to help solidify the starting PG role. He can help our young guys

[orlando_joe]

Tatum + Brown = $106M (+JRue/White = $139/135M)
Durant + Booker + Beal = $162M
KAT + OG + Brunson + Bridges + Hart = $171M

These are all CBA examples.

Look at the salary commitments to the two Finalists this year:
https://hoopshype.com/salaries/indiana_pacers/
https://hoopshype.com/salaries/oklahoma_city_thunder/


Indiana and OKC "get it". This is what winning will look like over the next seven years.

OKC still got 2 of his 3 stars at rookie cost. Not repeatable / Indiana is only in the final because the few top teams in the east were injured.

add to that okc and pacers star is 25 and 26....magic 22 and 23...when those stars were 22 and 23 they were lottery teams magic made 2 playoffs