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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt XIII: Trade Deadline con 

Post#621 » by papa_clipse » Thu Mar 1, 2012 10:29 pm

Josh Robbins Cautions: Don’t jump to any conclusions yet about the Monta Ellis rumors

Here is what we know for sure: Magic officials planned to speak with Howard, either formally or informally, on or about March 1 to see if there is any chance he would remain long-term. Magic CEO Alex Martins has communicated with Howard for months now, ever since Martins took over for Bob Vander Weide and inherited a situation that had reached a crisis point.


It’s possible — if the Ellis rumor is accurate — that the Magic simply are going for a Hail Mary. Maybe they have not received any assurances from Howard, but they know that Howard publicly has said that he would love to play with Ellis (and with Stephen Jackson, Anthony Morrow, Chris Paul and Deron Williams). Having Ellis could help the Magic’s chances to re-sign Howard this summer.


Howard probably will continue to keep mum for at least the next couple of weeks.

He has been criticized over the last two months for saying the Magic did not follow his personnel suggestions. All you have to do is connect the dots. Since Howard was making personnel suggestions, he clearly was not satisfied with the composition of the roster and was, as General Manager Otis Smth has said, indirectly throwing at least one player “under the bus.”


All indications over the last few weeks were that Howard was hell-bent on testing free agency this upcoming summer and that he even would have been happy to agree with a new team to a four-year deal at 4.5 percent annual raises that included an opt-out after three seasons.



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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt XIII: Trade Deadline con 

Post#622 » by The Real Dalic » Thu Mar 1, 2012 10:30 pm

Hater_X wrote:I love how people always complain how we always bring in aging players with little left in the tank and never a young player in their prime. Then the second we try to bring in a young player in his prime (Monta), People start talking about bringing in a aging player with little left in the tank (Nash although he's in great shape for his age, but c'mon he's 38 and still can't play defense) to the team. What is it that we want people?

I know. :lol: people will honestly never be happy.... but, I somewhat understand bringing him in. he's an elite playmaker who's going to be a HoF. the thing that scares me is that he will probably sign with us for 2 more years and that's it. and, who knows how he'll do during his last 2 years.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt XIII: Trade Deadline con 

Post#623 » by The Real Dalic » Thu Mar 1, 2012 10:31 pm


I'm pretty sure the Lakers would rather trade Monta for Pau straight up.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt XIII: Trade Deadline con 

Post#624 » by rcklsscognition » Thu Mar 1, 2012 10:33 pm

I'm getting excited for the first game where someone is pulled because they're being traded.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt XIII: Trade Deadline con 

Post#625 » by ADRajX » Thu Mar 1, 2012 10:37 pm

papa_clipse wrote:Josh Robbins Cautions: Don’t jump to any conclusions yet about the Monta Ellis rumors

Here is what we know for sure: Magic officials planned to speak with Howard, either formally or informally, on or about March 1 to see if there is any chance he would remain long-term. Magic CEO Alex Martins has communicated with Howard for months now, ever since Martins took over for Bob Vander Weide and inherited a situation that had reached a crisis point.


It’s possible — if the Ellis rumor is accurate — that the Magic simply are going for a Hail Mary. Maybe they have not received any assurances from Howard, but they know that Howard publicly has said that he would love to play with Ellis (and with Stephen Jackson, Anthony Morrow, Chris Paul and Deron Williams). Having Ellis could help the Magic’s chances to re-sign Howard this summer.


Howard probably will continue to keep mum for at least the next couple of weeks.

He has been criticized over the last two months for saying the Magic did not follow his personnel suggestions. All you have to do is connect the dots. Since Howard was making personnel suggestions, he clearly was not satisfied with the composition of the roster and was, as General Manager Otis Smth has said, indirectly throwing at least one player “under the bus.”


All indications over the last few weeks were that Howard was hell-bent on testing free agency this upcoming summer and that he even would have been happy to agree with a new team to a four-year deal at 4.5 percent annual raises that included an opt-out after three seasons.



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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt XIII: Trade Deadline con 

Post#626 » by MagicFan41 » Thu Mar 1, 2012 10:38 pm

The Real Dalic wrote:

I'm pretty sure the Lakers would rather trade Monta for Pau straight up.


Maybe, but I'm not 100% sure they want him, as they already have their 30 shot per game taker in Kobe. Monta wouldn't be as effective in that system I don't think. That would leave them with a huge hole at PF too...

Plus they can't trade him straight up for Monta....so GSW would have to throw in another piece, maybe Udoh? They prob don't want to do that. They also don't seem to want to take more salary on because of luxury tax, so Monta+DLee for Pau might not work for them either.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt XIII: Trade Deadline con 

Post#627 » by papa_clipse » Thu Mar 1, 2012 10:41 pm

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No problem thought it was a good read and making an attempt to calm everyone down. I just hope we make any trade to keep Dwight!
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt XIII: Trade Deadline con 

Post#628 » by RookieStar » Thu Mar 1, 2012 10:42 pm

Nothing concrete still? Dang it!!!!
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt XIII: Trade Deadline con 

Post#629 » by ADRajX » Thu Mar 1, 2012 10:47 pm

I don't think an Ellis trade will happen unfortunately... I'm going to keep my expectations low for the next two weeks.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt XIII: Trade Deadline con 

Post#630 » by cb1115 » Thu Mar 1, 2012 10:48 pm

It's quiet. Too quiet.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt XIII: Trade Deadline con 

Post#631 » by The Real Dalic » Thu Mar 1, 2012 10:48 pm

cb1115 wrote:It's quiet. Too quiet.

Way too quiet....
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt XIII: Trade Deadline con 

Post#632 » by jjtreyball » Thu Mar 1, 2012 10:51 pm

I think they have a deal but their gonna have to gut the roster for monta... So there gonna talk to Dwight to see what he thinks about it
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt XIII: Trade Deadline con 

Post#633 » by The Real Dalic » Thu Mar 1, 2012 10:54 pm

jjtreyball wrote:I think they have a deal but their gonna have to gut the roster for monta... So there gonna talk to Dwight to see what he thinks about it

I wish, but I doubt it.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt XIII: Trade Deadline con 

Post#634 » by ADRajX » Thu Mar 1, 2012 10:55 pm

The Real Dalic wrote:
cb1115 wrote:It's quiet. Too quiet.

Way too quiet....

If anything is going to happen... I'm going to predict it will happen sometime after March 10th and before the deadline
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt XIII: Trade Deadline con 

Post#635 » by Def Swami » Thu Mar 1, 2012 10:59 pm

Alex Kennedy ‏ @AlexKennedyNBA
The Boston Celtics have been very active in trade talks. League sources expect Boston to make a trade at some point in the next two weeks.


Alex Kennedy ‏ @AlexKennedyNBA
Teams continue to express interest in Ramon Sessions. Many executives see him as a starting point guard. Cavs are weighing their options.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt XIII: Trade Deadline con 

Post#636 » by The Real Dalic » Thu Mar 1, 2012 11:00 pm

DJRajX wrote:
The Real Dalic wrote:
cb1115 wrote:It's quiet. Too quiet.

Way too quiet....

If anything is going to happen... I'm going to predict it will happen sometime after March 10th and before the deadline

That's what I'm expecting too... the only reason I'm not going crazy is because I have the 2k sports combo pack to look forward too in 5 days. :D
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt XIII: Trade Deadline con 

Post#637 » by The Real Dalic » Thu Mar 1, 2012 11:01 pm

VGOSWAMI wrote:
Alex Kennedy ‏ @AlexKennedyNBA
Teams continue to express interest in Ramon Sessions. Many executives see him as a starting point guard. Cavs are weighing their options.

If it doesn't cost an arm and a leg "Git R Done Otis!"
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt XIII: Trade Deadline con 

Post#638 » by chunnyboy » Thu Mar 1, 2012 11:04 pm

i'm sick and tired of being disappointed by trade rumors.

and still i'm here...

as heath ledger once famously said,

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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt XIII: Trade Deadline con 

Post#639 » by MagicFan41 » Thu Mar 1, 2012 11:09 pm

The Real Dalic wrote:
cb1115 wrote:It's quiet. Too quiet.

Way too quiet....


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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt XIII: Trade Deadline con 

Post#640 » by Nemesis21 » Thu Mar 1, 2012 11:10 pm

The Real Dalic wrote:
VGOSWAMI wrote:
Alex Kennedy ‏ @AlexKennedyNBA
Teams continue to express interest in Ramon Sessions. Many executives see him as a starting point guard. Cavs are weighing their options.

If it doesn't cost an arm and a leg "Git R Done Otis!"

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