2012 Orland Magic NBA draft thread ...

[Neon1]

Like Ive said 100 times Harkless's shot can improve because of his mechanics and he has a very strong work ethic. Imo miller is the type of player who depends on his ability and less on working hard.

Based on what??

[Truth24]

[Skin]

I'm really starting to hop on board that Quincy Miller bandwagon!

welcome aboard...i'm the conductor....

Yep! CHOO!!! CHOOOO!!!!

At only 19 years old, his upside is scary. I can't see him being a bust with good coaching. Seems to have the kind of personality that would mesh with Dwight too.

[dsg2021]

Starting to get on the Quincy Miller bandwagon too. If not, I still like Harkless, Taylor.

[arkknight1988]

quincy isn't explosive at all. will he come back 100% from the injury? after gilbert arenas i don't want to have to watch another player struggle with bad knees

[Truth24]

quincy isn't explosive at all. will he come back 100% from the injury? after gilbert arenas i don't want to have to watch another player struggle with bad knees

He isn't the most explosive but he is still able to get to the cup and he is showing more signs of his athleticism getting back to where it was.

[ChildishGambino]

quincy isn't explosive at all. will he come back 100% from the injury? after gilbert arenas i don't want to have to watch another player struggle with bad knees

His claim to fame is not his athleticism it's that he's very skilled for his height....not many 6"10 guys can handle and shoot the rock like he can plus he can operate on the block....combine that with his great wingspan and his sky high potential it's not that hard a decision to me to roll the dice on him....yes his knock is he is only 1 year removed from tearing that ACL but he's only what 19/20? he's got time to work back into shape with great coaching and realize some of that potential.....To me he can contribute right now but only as a backup.....If we develop him the right way when he's around 22/23 we're looking at a player similar to Kevin Durant

[arkknight1988]

quincy isn't explosive at all. will he come back 100% from the injury? after gilbert arenas i don't want to have to watch another player struggle with bad knees

His claim to fame is not his athleticism it's that he's very skilled for his height....not many 6"10 guys can handle and shoot the rock like he can plus he can operate on the block....combine that with his great wingspan and his sky high potential it's not that hard a decision to me to roll the dice on him....yes his knock is he is only 1 year removed from tearing that ACL but he's only what 19/20? he's got time to work back into shape with great coaching and realize some of that potential.....To me he can contribute right now but only as a backup.....If we develop him the right way when he's around 22/23 we're looking at a player similar to Kevin Durant

if he can get his bounce back i agree 100%, risky pick though

[Truth24]

quincy isn't explosive at all. will he come back 100% from the injury? after gilbert arenas i don't want to have to watch another player struggle with bad knees

His claim to fame is not his athleticism it's that he's very skilled for his height....not many 6"10 guys can handle and shoot the rock like he can plus he can operate on the block....combine that with his great wingspan and his sky high potential it's not that hard a decision to me to roll the dice on him....yes his knock is he is only 1 year removed from tearing that ACL but he's only what 19/20? he's got time to work back into shape with great coaching and realize some of that potential.....To me he can contribute right now but only as a backup.....If we develop him the right way when he's around 22/23 we're looking at a player similar to Kevin Durant

This goes for any 3 that we grab, because I still see Hedo as the start atleast for the start of the season next year. Though I think if we grab a player like Quincy or Royce they would be able to contribute right away and a lot because of their skill set. Quincy should be able to come in right away and play because of his shooting ability and handles. Same for Royce his size, strength, and handles would allow him to contribute right away.

[Neon1]

quincy isn't explosive at all. will he come back 100% from the injury? after gilbert arenas i don't want to have to watch another player struggle with bad knees

He isn't the most explosive but he is still able to get to the cup and he is showing more signs of his athleticism getting back to where it was.

To be fair Quincy Miller wasn't very explosive even before the knee injury. The injury did seem to hamper his ball handling ability (change of direction/shange of pace/stop and go..etc) more then anything. I had to go back to his HS/AAU videos to even find this ball-handling ability people keep talking about. He looked super slow at Baylor.

[magicman123]

I'm really starting to hop on board that Quincy Miller bandwagon!

give that kid a cheeseburger, hes going to get man handled if he doesn't bulk up

[ChildishGambino]

Quincy is my 1a but Tyshawn Taylor is my 1b at this point considering the Combine.....He intrigues me as a PG prospect....everyone i know is trying to talk me out of this guy but when i look at him i wonder why? to me he has everything i would want in a PG in this era....he is Jameer/Duhon/Ish combined....He can shoot it like Jameer....Around 40% from 3...Above 45% from the field.....he has Duhon's size...Legit 6"4 in shoes.....He has Ish's speed and athleticism...All that plus his potential to be a lockdown defender at the PG position....

I know though he has the tendency to make bonehead plays and tries to do too much at times...but to me that's coachable....what i like most is he has things you can't coach....like the speed....the size....the athleticism.....His draft position is fairly low but for some reason i just like the Kid....i like what he brings to the table...to me his positives outweigh his negatives.....for me personally he's my pick if we had to choose a PG.....

[ChildishGambino]

I'm really starting to hop on board that Quincy Miller bandwagon!

give that kid a cheeseburger, hes going to get man handled if he doesn't bulk up

Kevin Durant came into the league lighter than Quincy...i think he'll be alright

[Nemesis21]

I'm really starting to hop on board that Quincy Miller bandwagon!

give that kid a cheeseburger, hes going to get man handled if he doesn't bulk up

Kevin Durant came into the league lighter than Quincy...i think he'll be alright

But Durant came into the league with an NBA ready jump shot, how is Quincy Miller's?

[Neon1]

Quincy is my 1a but Tyshawn Taylor is my 1b at this point considering the Combine.....He intrigues me as a PG prospect....everyone i know is trying to talk me out of this guy but when i look at him i wonder why? to me he has everything i would want in a PG in this era....he is Jameer/Duhon/Ish combined....He can shoot it like Jameer....Around 40% from 3...Above 45% from the field.....he has Duhon's size...Legit 6"4 in shoes.....He has Ish's speed and athleticism...All that plus his potential to be a lockdown defender at the PG position....

I know though he has the tendency to make bonehead plays and tries to do too much at times...but to me that's coachable....what i like most is he has things you can't coach....like the speed....the size....the athleticism.....His draft position is fairly low but for some reason i just like the Kid....i like what he brings to the table...to me his positives outweigh his negatives.....for me personally he's my pick if we had to choose a PG.....

I agree on Tyshawn Taylor. If i go PG he is the pick for me. He has good shooting, athleticism, +speed, +size and he is a +defender. His teams also have amazing win-loss records and has big game experience.

Lets not give Chris Duhon any undeserved credit though. DuDu is only 6'1.

[magicman123]

I'm really starting to hop on board that Quincy Miller bandwagon!

give that kid a cheeseburger, hes going to get man handled if he doesn't bulk up

Kevin Durant came into the league lighter than Quincy...i think he'll be alright

yea no comparison, durant was a beast and an all around player...miller plays like hes still recovering from that injury and he has a funky shooting form (that will make him inconsistent), not saying he doesn't have skills but hes no durant

[ChildishGambino]

^^Not that bad really....Apples and Oranges....while Durant had better jumpshot coming in i would say Quincy is better on the block than Durant was coming in....everybody has holes in their games....

[ChildishGambino]

Of course Quincy isn't Durant....that's asinine...but the skillset is similar...the bodytype is similar....that's it...it's stupid to compare Quincy right now to a MVP candidate in Durant....that's why i said if we develop Quincy when he's around 22/23 he'll be similar to Durant....Quincy's 19 right now i believe...he's got time to fill out his body and his game.....

[Neon1]

But Durant came into the league with an NBA ready jump shot, how is Quincy Miller's?

His shooting is not close to an NCAA Durant level. I personally wonder how the heck he is even going to get that shot off cleanly.

His teamate Perry Jones III has more KD in him then Quincy does. Quincy Miller is more Poor Man's Danny Manning (slower and minus DM's passing ability).

He has a chance to be good, but i cant help but wonder how he will do once he has to go against better pure athletes and players closer to his size. His shot (set shot+low release form) worries me a little.

[Nemesis21]

For the record, I'd rather take a PG in the 1st rd. We really need to find a true PG to pair with Dwight.